We need a better energy policy
As anyone who drives a car can attest, America needs a better energy policy -- one that really makes us less dependent upon foreign oil.
And the best way to get there is by doubling down on coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear power. Not solar, wind, corn, etc.
The news this morning that Saudi Arabia cut both its oil production and December exports speaks loudly as to the deficiency of our current policy. And while politicians -- Democrats and Republicans -- rub their legs together like crickets in protest of higher gasoline prices, they fail to do the kinds of things that make us more self sufficient.
The current crop of say-everything-do-nothing politicians (Sen. Harry Reid, President Obama, etc.) remain the poster children of the day in this regard.
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The koolaid crowd is very happy when gas prices go up.
They offer solutions which are expensive solutions like electrical cars that will only make sense if gas is very expensive or solutions that really will not work like electrical cars for we don't have the electrical power grid capacity to supply that much transportion.
So they will continue to do their best to restrict oil supply and add to as much cost as possible to oil consumption.
Kool-aid crowd have no clue that almost everything they do or buy has a link oil.
I heard this argument from them. If you don't like government healthcare then don't use government healthcare. So I will throw that silliness back into their faces. If you don't like oil then don't use oil or products that have oil in it or products/services that rely on oil machines to move or make the product/services. I think that will mean that they go naked and live in the wilderness eating berries off the trees.
Obama is enslaved to these extreme elements in his party.
They forced him to reject a no-brainer energy project like the Canadian oil pipeline.
They forced him to embrace obvious loser energy projects like solyndra.
We need somebody in the WH that will implement a sensible energy policy that is not enslaved to the extreme elements in his party and that person is Romney.
They offer solutions which are expensive solutions like electrical cars that will only make sense if gas is very expensive or solutions that really will not work like electrical cars for we don't have the electrical power grid capacity to supply that much transportion.
So they will continue to do their best to restrict oil supply and add to as much cost as possible to oil consumption.
Kool-aid crowd have no clue that almost everything they do or buy has a link oil.
I heard this argument from them. If you don't like government healthcare then don't use government healthcare. So I will throw that silliness back into their faces. If you don't like oil then don't use oil or products that have oil in it or products/services that rely on oil machines to move or make the product/services. I think that will mean that they go naked and live in the wilderness eating berries off the trees.
Obama is enslaved to these extreme elements in his party.
They forced him to reject a no-brainer energy project like the Canadian oil pipeline.
They forced him to embrace obvious loser energy projects like solyndra.
We need somebody in the WH that will implement a sensible energy policy that is not enslaved to the extreme elements in his party and that person is Romney.
Didn't Carter create the Dept of Energy to reduce our dependency on foreign oil? Well, 30+ years later, epic fail! Is it really that tough to get us independent of the world, and produce enough petroleum for our own use, or is there something else going on here?
(Dramatic pause)
Obviously, something going on here, involving the (you guessed it!) fascist/globalist banksters and their klepto-republicrat minions.
Oh well, who cares, life's been good to me so far. Too bad I don't have a Maserati...
(Dramatic pause)
Obviously, something going on here, involving the (you guessed it!) fascist/globalist banksters and their klepto-republicrat minions.
Oh well, who cares, life's been good to me so far. Too bad I don't have a Maserati...
Seriously? Coal and nuclear power?
Someone please explain to me how doubling down on coal and nuclear power will decrease our dependence on OIL?
Where the heck is Tom Mitchell when you need him to explain to his former bookend that this country doesn't USE coal or nuclear power as fuel for vehicles and therefore to "double down" on those two energy sources will not diminish the need for oil one iota.
And Winston, once you get away from quoting Jefferson, and you're left to your own devices you really disappoint me; you aren't seriously suggesting that someone the Dept. of Energy is RESPONSIBLE for this country's dependence on oil are you?
Come on man, you really got to do better than that.
Someone please explain to me how doubling down on coal and nuclear power will decrease our dependence on OIL?
Where the heck is Tom Mitchell when you need him to explain to his former bookend that this country doesn't USE coal or nuclear power as fuel for vehicles and therefore to "double down" on those two energy sources will not diminish the need for oil one iota.
And Winston, once you get away from quoting Jefferson, and you're left to your own devices you really disappoint me; you aren't seriously suggesting that someone the Dept. of Energy is RESPONSIBLE for this country's dependence on oil are you?
Come on man, you really got to do better than that.
Well, the DOE certainly failed to make us independent.
Coal and nukes could cut power bills so we could better afford $5 gasoline.
Coal and nukes could cut power bills so we could better afford $5 gasoline.
We have cut our gas consumtion.....but it's just like NV rate the less we use the more they charge per unit......
Wow; talk about drinking the cool aid; Big Oil has you drinking right out of the tap. All alternate energy sources are fought tooth and nail by Big Oil, including nukes. And they also fought better gas mileage for our auto industry. They got you hooked on oil and they ain't letting you go. Fortunately the Obama administration continues to push for alternate sources - and Big Oil continues to protect its subsidies.
What's up Sherm? You see a problem with the Volt-that has to have a $10K taxpayer subsidy to be affordable? And then has a range of less than 300 miles. And costs more per mile to operate than a standard gasoline vehicle? And you have a problem with making half a billion in loan guarantees to Solyndra in exchange for donations to Obama's campaign? And then when the fake green energy company goes bankrupt, the CEO's and investors get paid before the US taxpayer. Sounds like a great energy policy-to a marxist.
What do you mean by "better energy policy," Mr. Frederick? How about we have NO energy policy, as it's not the place of the government to be deciding such things. Higher or lower gas prices should not be a goal of any governmental policy. That's what free markets are for.
Any thinking person understands that the largest companies on earth, require that the world is dependent on oil.
Is it any wonder that energy policy, such that it is, hasn't changed?
The "free market" ensures that the largest companies will control policy, and the world's dependence on oil until they decide otherwise.
If there is ANY hope of reducing the "free market" control of the largest companies on earth, the people must take charge and make it so.
Otherwise, the world will continue to do what they want it to do.
Is it any wonder that energy policy, such that it is, hasn't changed?
The "free market" ensures that the largest companies will control policy, and the world's dependence on oil until they decide otherwise.
If there is ANY hope of reducing the "free market" control of the largest companies on earth, the people must take charge and make it so.
Otherwise, the world will continue to do what they want it to do.
@ BTDT: There is no free market in energy, especially oil. There is an oligopoly. I wish there was a free market in energy.
John F.:
There is no more "free market" for oil than there is a free market that can ever happen in anything (and that goes for whether a "government" exists or not)
A free market is only a fantastical construct that can be possible only in a dream.
There is no more "free market" for oil than there is a free market that can ever happen in anything (and that goes for whether a "government" exists or not)
A free market is only a fantastical construct that can be possible only in a dream.
The political point, ladies and germs, is that when people visit the gasoline pump, they'll be rightly thinking about the current crop of politicians who promised one thing and did another. Here comes $4 gas.
BTDT-Simply saying something doesn't necessarily make it true. Like when BHO told us at his inauguration that he would cool the planet, lower the seas, heal the hate, etc. etc. it didn't actually happen. Last time I checked only God is able to actually speak things into existence.
Sherm: you forgot to mention the oil speculators that have a major role in the price of oil on the global market. They are so skittish, that any veiled comment from anyone in the industry, true of not, sends them into a frenzy. Gosth--and business is supposed to be our saviors!!
Larry:
If you doubt what I say surely you have an example of a "free market" which stands in opposition; good luck providing ONE example.
If you doubt what I say surely you have an example of a "free market" which stands in opposition; good luck providing ONE example.
There are so many things that effect this but at its core Sherm's statement is correct.
Public Citizen has some advice and I think its good advice. Like a monopoly the oil energy industry is now operating in collusion. Its time to break them up.
Public Citizen has some advice and I think its good advice. Like a monopoly the oil energy industry is now operating in collusion. Its time to break them up.
Ø MOTORS VOLT ANYONE??? HELLO LIBS???
ATHEIST Ø & MOOCHELLE.......GET TO THE DEUCE;)
ATHEIST Ø & MOOCHELLE.......GET TO THE DEUCE;)
BARRY = CHAOS
11 MONTHS & COUNTING.......YOU'RE ON THE CLOCK;)
11 MONTHS & COUNTING.......YOU'RE ON THE CLOCK;)
The complete one is now playing off Santorum's talking points. As for America's energy policy... they're the policies established by our former White House and oil industry Chief Executives.
BARRY COULDN'T RUN A HOT DOG STAND TO SAVE HIS LIFE;)
WHY DOESN'T Ø RETIRE TO KENYA AND WORK HIS MAGIC???
WHY DOESN'T Ø RETIRE TO KENYA AND WORK HIS MAGIC???
today's fun fact: the number of domestic oil rigs has quadrupled since Barack Obama became President, and domestic oil production is at its highest level in decades.
OH PETE.....YOU'RE A FOUNTAIN OF INFO;)
petey the miserable drone, are you saying Ø's real intent (against his stated goals) is to INCREASE domestic oil production?
Petenyc, that is more a function of the price of crude than policy changes in the federal government. The real problem with the price of gas is control of the refineries.
So, the radical left pushed out yucca mountain instead of trying to sweeten the pot for Nevada. We could have demanded a nuclear power plant and a nuclear waste recycling research institute to be built in our state in trade for the use of the Yucca depository. That would mean JOBS JOBS JOBS and not a solar panel squeegee person but NUCLEAR SCIENTISTS.
Why are the democrats so blind towards building a better Nevada?
Why are the democrats so blind towards building a better Nevada?
to "athos": yes, of course I am saying that President Obama's intent is to increase domestic oil production.
Now, I have a question for you: you claim that President Obama's "stated goal" (your words) is to decrease domestic oil production. I deny that he has ever said any such thing. Please document where it was that President Obama said that his goal was to decrease domestic oil production.
If you cannot do so, you should do the honorable thing and withdraw your assertion.
Now, I have a question for you: you claim that President Obama's "stated goal" (your words) is to decrease domestic oil production. I deny that he has ever said any such thing. Please document where it was that President Obama said that his goal was to decrease domestic oil production.
If you cannot do so, you should do the honorable thing and withdraw your assertion.
LOOK! its not so much the price of oil, its who controls the refineries that drive the price of gas.
The price of oil is what drives how much US oil gets extracted. Its not really the feds that prevent it. Its the cost of imported oil that stops or starts us extracting our own reserves.
This all happened in the 1970's!
Your memories can't be that effin short!
The price of oil is what drives how much US oil gets extracted. Its not really the feds that prevent it. Its the cost of imported oil that stops or starts us extracting our own reserves.
This all happened in the 1970's!
Your memories can't be that effin short!
Obama has been held captive by the extreme elements in his party and he was worked hard to implement their anti-oil domestic drilling policies.
The only increases in domestic drilling have come from private lands that are outside the domain of Obama.
The only increases in domestic drilling have come from private lands that are outside the domain of Obama.
Yeah Fredrick,..no one cares what you think. Solar, Wind, and hydro are real and clean. They are also infinite. I'm making money still off my wind stocks and will for a long time to come. Why don't you step off big oil's &^%$ and wake up. Big oil don't love you back and it is NOT the way of the future.
We're not the only ones looking at the abject failure of DC:
Chuck Woolery offers his suggestions for cutting the national budget.
video
00:03:23
http://www.youtube.com/v/KV-RqPtT2PU?version=3&feature=player_embedded
Thanks to Adask's Law!
Chuck Woolery offers his suggestions for cutting the national budget.
video
00:03:23
http://www.youtube.com/v/KV-RqPtT2PU?version=3&feature=player_embedded
Thanks to Adask's Law!
petey, you miserable little drone, how does Ø's rhetoric of “starve the beast” energy politics support your assertion that he wants to increase domestic oil production?
He killed the Keystone oil pipeline.
He killed drilling in the Gulf, and hinders it to this very day.
The onerous EPA rules on coal fired energy plants are confusing, costly, and counter productive to lowering energy prices.
But we all know that he DOESN'T want lower energy prices, don't we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4
He killed the Keystone oil pipeline.
He killed drilling in the Gulf, and hinders it to this very day.
The onerous EPA rules on coal fired energy plants are confusing, costly, and counter productive to lowering energy prices.
But we all know that he DOESN'T want lower energy prices, don't we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4
sounds more and more like the democrats idea of reducing our energy dependance is going back to the living standards of the 1800's. No cars, wood stoves, and dirt roads.
Jerry S. admits he likes watching police kick innocent diabetic victims with his letter to lvrj.
"I was a police officer back in the '70s, and I take exception to this being called a police beating."
Jerry Sturdivant
what a whacko!
"I was a police officer back in the '70s, and I take exception to this being called a police beating."
Jerry Sturdivant
what a whacko!
another fun fact: US dependence on foreign oil has decreased since President Obama took office.
Ride the bus or telecommute, Sherm
Hey Lewis; here's something you didn't know about Solyndra; China subsidized their own solar company (something like we still for our own Big Oil and was trying to do for Solyndra), and one of our own American (right wing) corporations started buying the cheaper (like Wal-Mart does) panels directly from China. That's why Solyndra went under.
And SgtRock: You'll find there were, and are, a number of Republican governors that blocked offshore oil drilling in a number of our states. Jeb Bush for one; I'll you find out the rest.
And poor Deep; when you can't address the message, attack the messenger. You're as clueless about police work as your are about energy.
And SgtRock: You'll find there were, and are, a number of Republican governors that blocked offshore oil drilling in a number of our states. Jeb Bush for one; I'll you find out the rest.
And poor Deep; when you can't address the message, attack the messenger. You're as clueless about police work as your are about energy.
The way this administration promotes the reduction of energy consumption is horrible. Higher prices always comes with less usage. The problem is, enviro-nazies have failed to produce a reliable cheap alternative to the reliable cheap gasoline we use and the reliable cheap electrical generation. (Wind and solar is neither reliable nor cheap)
Higher prices in these ENERGY sectors effect the poor and middle class by lowering the quality of living they have already.
Is sudden drastic instant energy reduction worth the suffering of these classes?
Higher prices in these ENERGY sectors effect the poor and middle class by lowering the quality of living they have already.
Is sudden drastic instant energy reduction worth the suffering of these classes?
to "athos": Don't evadethe issue. You made a specific factual assertion: that President Obama's "stated goal" was to decrease domestic oil production. I denied that assertion, and challenged you to document it. So far, you have failed to do so. That is because your assertion is a lie.
You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts. If you can't back up your factual assertion, you should acknowledge your error.
At least, that would be the honorable thing to do.
You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts. If you can't back up your factual assertion, you should acknowledge your error.
At least, that would be the honorable thing to do.
another fun fact: US dependence on foreign oil has decreased since President Obama took office because of these two reasons:
1) Obama polices have not triggered the normal recovery that occurs after a recession and that has suppressed the economy and reduced our demand for email
2) Production of oil from private lands has increased because that is not under the control of Obama while the production of oil from public land has decreased for that is under the control of Obama
Hip hip horray.......Obama has sliced into demand into oil for his economic polices suck
1) Obama polices have not triggered the normal recovery that occurs after a recession and that has suppressed the economy and reduced our demand for email
2) Production of oil from private lands has increased because that is not under the control of Obama while the production of oil from public land has decreased for that is under the control of Obama
Hip hip horray.......Obama has sliced into demand into oil for his economic polices suck
Actually this administration does a rather good job of energy consumption reduction. There are numerous federal, state and local programs for housing insulation; including hot water tank wraps. Contact your local power company. I was involved in a number of these programs when working for private (Southern California Edison, Co,) and federal (Bonneville Power Administration) power. Even the Solyndra example goes to my point. It is simply one of a number of companies (electric and gas) our government subsidizes (along with Big oil). The right wing nuts may waive (sic) their collective hands and whine, but check the facts out yourself. There is no, "… sudden drastic instant energy reduction …" (And note how quite Sherman remains on this).
The handwriting is on the wall for those who can read it: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120126223609.htm And the year this occurred was 2005. Now who was president then...
to "sgt rock": I am pleased that you have acknowledged that oil drilling and production are up since President Obama took office, and that our dependence on foreign oil is down. However, your claim that oil production from federal lands is down is bogus. In reality, production from both onshore and offshore federal lands has increased under President Obama. Onshore oil production has increased five percent, while offshore production has increased by a third:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/fact_sheet_expanding_oil_production.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/fact_sheet_expanding_oil_production.pdf
It is hilarous that you cite Obama's web site.
Please have some cookies with that kool-aid.
Here is a better information on the topic.
http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2012/01/24/president-obamas-record-on-oil-and-gas-production/
It is funny to see libs are now on board to boosting domestic oil production.
We call your bluff and double the bet.
Now is a very good time to vote on the pipeline, offshore drilling and land drilling.
Let's see Obama's and libs' true colors now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please have some cookies with that kool-aid.
Here is a better information on the topic.
http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2012/01/24/president-obamas-record-on-oil-and-gas-production/
It is funny to see libs are now on board to boosting domestic oil production.
We call your bluff and double the bet.
Now is a very good time to vote on the pipeline, offshore drilling and land drilling.
Let's see Obama's and libs' true colors now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sgt. rock:
1. it is hilarious that you cite an industry-funded lobbying group over US gov't statistics.
2. You need to look at your own sources more carefully. As the industry website you use notes, the claim that oil production from federal lands has decreased since President Obama took office is based on an incorrect dataset that has since been withdrawn. Kudos to that organization for updating their website, but brickbats to "sgtrock" for ignoring the fact that he is relying in incorrect statistics that have been withdrawn from publication.
By the way, if one were to assume that the dataset is correct, it shows large decreases in oil production from federal land taking place under President Bush. Do you blame Bush for that?
1. it is hilarious that you cite an industry-funded lobbying group over US gov't statistics.
2. You need to look at your own sources more carefully. As the industry website you use notes, the claim that oil production from federal lands has decreased since President Obama took office is based on an incorrect dataset that has since been withdrawn. Kudos to that organization for updating their website, but brickbats to "sgtrock" for ignoring the fact that he is relying in incorrect statistics that have been withdrawn from publication.
By the way, if one were to assume that the dataset is correct, it shows large decreases in oil production from federal land taking place under President Bush. Do you blame Bush for that?
As I said, there is no free market in oil, or anything else for that matter because the industries that control the market for oil, and other products, will not permit it.
There is a absolute GLUT of oil in the world today and the oil companies, evil but not stupid, have no reason to increase production and in fact are ENSURING that the oil that is in the ground is sold for the highest prices they can get. Its just one more reason why they continue to shut down refineries which means a reduction in gasoline (even though there is still FAR to much surplus on the market to sell) produced by the industry that absolutely controls production.
Oh, and can someone, anyone, explain to me how oil production on "private lands" is NOT within the control of the government? I mean, did the EPA, OSHA, and other federal agencies charged with protecting the environment, job safety, and other areas just disappear?
No, if President Obama "wanted" to use federal instrumentalities to "control" production of oil, he could. But as petenyc points out, that is clearly not his intent; he's a middle/right president don't you know?
There is a absolute GLUT of oil in the world today and the oil companies, evil but not stupid, have no reason to increase production and in fact are ENSURING that the oil that is in the ground is sold for the highest prices they can get. Its just one more reason why they continue to shut down refineries which means a reduction in gasoline (even though there is still FAR to much surplus on the market to sell) produced by the industry that absolutely controls production.
Oh, and can someone, anyone, explain to me how oil production on "private lands" is NOT within the control of the government? I mean, did the EPA, OSHA, and other federal agencies charged with protecting the environment, job safety, and other areas just disappear?
No, if President Obama "wanted" to use federal instrumentalities to "control" production of oil, he could. But as petenyc points out, that is clearly not his intent; he's a middle/right president don't you know?
Congratulations to Mitt Romney for acknowledging this morning that cuts in federal spending would harm the economic recovery. A very brave thing to say in the midst of a Republican primary.
Thanks, Mitt!
Thanks, Mitt!
I don't think the voting public are total morons.
Everybody knows that Obama is anti-oil and has taken actions that are anti-oil.
But let's call the libs bluff.
Vote up and down on the pipeline.
Vote up and down on off-shore drilling.
Vote up and down on frak operations.
Vote up and down on Alaska drilling.
Let's give Obama and Senate Democrats, especially those that are in tight races, the opportunity to show that Obama and them just love love love US domestic oil operations.
Everybody knows that Obama is anti-oil and has taken actions that are anti-oil.
But let's call the libs bluff.
Vote up and down on the pipeline.
Vote up and down on off-shore drilling.
Vote up and down on frak operations.
Vote up and down on Alaska drilling.
Let's give Obama and Senate Democrats, especially those that are in tight races, the opportunity to show that Obama and them just love love love US domestic oil operations.
From the laugh factory that brought you:
"If nobody does anything, the economy will improve"
now comes:
"vote up AND down on whether you love oil or not...."
Course, the thinking folks (I call those people democrats) know that only in REPUBLICAN world can you vote FOR and AGAINST something all out of both sides of your mouth; eh Mitt?
"If nobody does anything, the economy will improve"
now comes:
"vote up AND down on whether you love oil or not...."
Course, the thinking folks (I call those people democrats) know that only in REPUBLICAN world can you vote FOR and AGAINST something all out of both sides of your mouth; eh Mitt?
Energy policy schmolicy.... the price of oil will be whatever Big Oil decides it to be....
Do any of you clueless people really think any other than the international oil comglomerates dictates the price of oil?
Are you all so damn naive you think a President has ANY significant say in the price of oil or (Tea in China) for that matter?
If you do... you are an illiterate MORON and need to read more.
So energy is a moot point in regards to the election. Unemployment and inflation are what determines Presidential elections.
Inflatiuon non-existant so lets look at unemployment... it's bad. Obama could lose based on the lousy unemployment numbers IF the GOP wasn't running a copmpltete clown show of mentally deficient ideologically stunted fools.
The morons in the lead for the GOP nod are truly from 50 years ago.
They want to outlaw abortion and restrict birth control.
That babbling simpleton Santorum doesn't want any sex outside of marriage or any sex inside marriage that is not for the purpose of procreation.
That is the mental insanity of the trapped in the 1950's crap for brains idiots the GOP wants to run.
The 2012 election is done. GOP loses EVERYTHNG!
Can the GOP survive the religious fanatics dragging it into obscurity?
Let's hope not!
Do any of you clueless people really think any other than the international oil comglomerates dictates the price of oil?
Are you all so damn naive you think a President has ANY significant say in the price of oil or (Tea in China) for that matter?
If you do... you are an illiterate MORON and need to read more.
So energy is a moot point in regards to the election. Unemployment and inflation are what determines Presidential elections.
Inflatiuon non-existant so lets look at unemployment... it's bad. Obama could lose based on the lousy unemployment numbers IF the GOP wasn't running a copmpltete clown show of mentally deficient ideologically stunted fools.
The morons in the lead for the GOP nod are truly from 50 years ago.
They want to outlaw abortion and restrict birth control.
That babbling simpleton Santorum doesn't want any sex outside of marriage or any sex inside marriage that is not for the purpose of procreation.
That is the mental insanity of the trapped in the 1950's crap for brains idiots the GOP wants to run.
The 2012 election is done. GOP loses EVERYTHNG!
Can the GOP survive the religious fanatics dragging it into obscurity?
Let's hope not!
Ø WANTS higher energy prices (reduced oil, gas and coal dependency - which is cheaper AND cleaner). You need nothing more than the rejection of the Keystone Oil pipeline to see the true nature of this poser.
Maybe Ø speaks differently (well, this IS an election year, isn't it?) but his HHS secretary is busy implementing the true direction of this socialist president's plan. Or maybe she's just out of control?
I do remember the shouts of "Drill NOW" when oil prices raced over $4/gal, back in '08. Of course, nothing was going to help that prancing peacock John McShamnesty, in that election.
And please don't confuse Jorge Bush with true conservative values. If you want to cite a truly conservative President, try Warren Harding. The rest of them (with the exception of Ronnie Reagan, and he had an entrenched Democrat House to deal with, didn't he?) were from the Herbert Hoover wing of our party.
Maybe Ø speaks differently (well, this IS an election year, isn't it?) but his HHS secretary is busy implementing the true direction of this socialist president's plan. Or maybe she's just out of control?
I do remember the shouts of "Drill NOW" when oil prices raced over $4/gal, back in '08. Of course, nothing was going to help that prancing peacock John McShamnesty, in that election.
And please don't confuse Jorge Bush with true conservative values. If you want to cite a truly conservative President, try Warren Harding. The rest of them (with the exception of Ronnie Reagan, and he had an entrenched Democrat House to deal with, didn't he?) were from the Herbert Hoover wing of our party.
"So energy is a moot point in regards to the election. Unemployment and inflation are what determines Presidential elections. "
It looks like you been to the beentheredonethat economics school.
So the price of gas has no impact on unemployment or inflation in your little la-la kool-aid world.
Go with that.
Go with that to Nov.
Yeah...you are absoluetly right.
So Obama and libs are doing this mexican jumping bean dance on gas prices for nothing.
Go with it.
I like it.
Be sure to tell your neighbors that you don't think that paying $70 to $100 dollars to full up the old car will have any impact on who they will vote for.
LOL!!!!!
It looks like you been to the beentheredonethat economics school.
So the price of gas has no impact on unemployment or inflation in your little la-la kool-aid world.
Go with that.
Go with that to Nov.
Yeah...you are absoluetly right.
So Obama and libs are doing this mexican jumping bean dance on gas prices for nothing.
Go with it.
I like it.
Be sure to tell your neighbors that you don't think that paying $70 to $100 dollars to full up the old car will have any impact on who they will vote for.
LOL!!!!!
Nice bowel movement, Jack. We can always count on you to succinctly post the anti freedom and liberty talking points.
cause after all, religion is the opiate of the masses, right Jack?
cause after all, religion is the opiate of the masses, right Jack?
The best approach would be to focus on the use of natural gas in combined cycle power plants to produce electricity. We should also look to convert fleet vehicles to compressed natural gas (CNG)and to establish the widespread infrastructure for CNG refuling of cars so that these will be produced by manufacturers. The cost for CNG is about $2.50 per gallon equivalent, and should be closer to half that is we had business competition.
In the longer term, we need to continue pushing for much less coal and oil consumption in favor of more renewable energy. However, abundant natural gas, which is the lowest CO2 production per unit heat output, with its relative abundance in the USA is a gift that should be exploited in the short and medium term un til we can make the transition to more significant energy production using renewables.
In the longer term, we need to continue pushing for much less coal and oil consumption in favor of more renewable energy. However, abundant natural gas, which is the lowest CO2 production per unit heat output, with its relative abundance in the USA is a gift that should be exploited in the short and medium term un til we can make the transition to more significant energy production using renewables.
You religious nut jobs are going to lose hard in 2012. Will you pack up your boats and sail to a new land?
We can only hope so.
Look up some statistics and try to learn something this morning.
Religious fanatics, on the level of Santorum, are less than 20% of the US population. A minority by any definition.
You will be CRUSHED in a general election.
So instead of doing the intelligent move, and trying to mitigate things through cooperation with the left, you simpletons draw a line in the and you will surely lose.
But you will have your principles... lost House, Senate and Whitehouse, but you will have your principles.
Again, for those to stupid to know any better... the price of oil is way down the list of indicators of who will win a presidential election.
One last thing, someone tell me the difference between the blind dogma spewn and intent to codify into law the religious beliefs of their teachings, when one listens to a radicalized Catholic like Santorum, or a radicalized Muslim in the Middle East.
They are both the same person. Different comic book same despot.
We can only hope so.
Look up some statistics and try to learn something this morning.
Religious fanatics, on the level of Santorum, are less than 20% of the US population. A minority by any definition.
You will be CRUSHED in a general election.
So instead of doing the intelligent move, and trying to mitigate things through cooperation with the left, you simpletons draw a line in the and you will surely lose.
But you will have your principles... lost House, Senate and Whitehouse, but you will have your principles.
Again, for those to stupid to know any better... the price of oil is way down the list of indicators of who will win a presidential election.
One last thing, someone tell me the difference between the blind dogma spewn and intent to codify into law the religious beliefs of their teachings, when one listens to a radicalized Catholic like Santorum, or a radicalized Muslim in the Middle East.
They are both the same person. Different comic book same despot.
How about vote up or down on President Obama's Jobs Bill?
How about vote up or down on President Obama's appointments?
How about vote up or down on Big Oil continuing to get government subsidies?
How about vote up or down on how dumb it is to say, "Ø WANTS higher energy prices."
How about admitting that off shore drilling in a number of states have been blocked by Republican Governors?
How about vote up or down on Sgt getting proved wrong again?
How about vote up or down on President Obama's appointments?
How about vote up or down on Big Oil continuing to get government subsidies?
How about vote up or down on how dumb it is to say, "Ø WANTS higher energy prices."
How about admitting that off shore drilling in a number of states have been blocked by Republican Governors?
How about vote up or down on Sgt getting proved wrong again?
Jerry, you better get back and defend your sterling letter to the editor.
Seems the major majority think you're a high school drop out.
Not that there's anything wrong with being a high school drop out! You're just giving them a bad name, Jerry!
Seems the major majority think you're a high school drop out.
Not that there's anything wrong with being a high school drop out! You're just giving them a bad name, Jerry!
Sherman Frederick and Thomas Mitchell will be very disappointed today; the Dow Jones Industrial Average topped 13,000! This is the highest DJIA since May 2008, the year before President Obama took office.
It is sad that these partisans and zealots would prefer to see the country fail rather than succeed if it success means having a non-white President. It is sad such people are not patriotic and do not have more love their country...and even less love for brown-skinned people.
It is sad that these partisans and zealots would prefer to see the country fail rather than succeed if it success means having a non-white President. It is sad such people are not patriotic and do not have more love their country...and even less love for brown-skinned people.
Get ready for future Sherm Fredericks blogs and columns criticizing the President for non-economic issues. President Obama could walk on water and still raise the ire of SF. Let's not even bring up Senator Reid.
If Republicans seem spooked to you these days, here’s why.
Two Charts That Should Terrify Republicans:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/two-charts-that-terrify-republicans.php?ref=fpa
If Republicans seem spooked to you these days, here’s why.
Two Charts That Should Terrify Republicans:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/two-charts-that-terrify-republicans.php?ref=fpa
I think probably the absolute highlight of my perusal of Mr. Frederick's blog is the statement today by "Athos" that Herbert Hoover was nothing but a leftist tool.
I'll remember that one for a good long time.
I'll remember that one for a good long time.
Well now, Jack, nice tie in with Catholics and Muslims. No difference, eh? Wonder how Daniel Pearl feels about the differences between Muslim and Catholic Religions?
Oh. We can't ask him cause he was the star of a Muslim movie!
The arrogance of man knows no bounds. CO2 will kill us all if we drive our SUVs and flush the toilet too many times, if we listen to you left wing lunatics.
And the economy is booming! Yipee! Of course, I did read a little ditty on Ø's unemployment numbers:
"What is the current percentage of working-age Americans, eligible to participate in the civilian labor force, but not currently working? Answer: 36.3 percent." Now, that's the ticket for re-election.
We're right where Ø wants us to be. Screwed and looking to DC (the Screw-ers!) to help us. Oh, please help us, Chosen One! Send money! (Ben B can print a few more $trillion, right?)
Oh. We can't ask him cause he was the star of a Muslim movie!
The arrogance of man knows no bounds. CO2 will kill us all if we drive our SUVs and flush the toilet too many times, if we listen to you left wing lunatics.
And the economy is booming! Yipee! Of course, I did read a little ditty on Ø's unemployment numbers:
"What is the current percentage of working-age Americans, eligible to participate in the civilian labor force, but not currently working? Answer: 36.3 percent." Now, that's the ticket for re-election.
We're right where Ø wants us to be. Screwed and looking to DC (the Screw-ers!) to help us. Oh, please help us, Chosen One! Send money! (Ben B can print a few more $trillion, right?)
I walk up to a gas pump and saw that somebody paid over $100 for gas. I was freaking glad that was not me.
Then I proceed to put $70 in my car.
LOL.......Obama is freaking screwed.
Then I proceed to put $70 in my car.
LOL.......Obama is freaking screwed.
That's generally the problem with the idiot fringe in America.
They can't differentiate between terrorists and Muslims.
I suppose none of the IRA bombs were placed by Catholic fundamentalists right you know nothing moron? And Christians didn't slaughter Muslims and Jews wholesale during the Crusades?
What's even stupider about your statement is trying to claim wht happened to Daniel Pearl has any significance at all. What do you think happens to all the disappeared 'enemy combatants' in black sites sent there by thee CIA? Then never heard from again.
You are naive and stupid.
Your religion is NOT superior to any other religion. Your torture, intolerance, and straight up stupidity (like trying to outlaw abortion or restrict birth control) is the exact same crap you rail against Muslims for.
There simply is no distinction between radical Catholics, radical Protestants, and radical Muslims.
Don't believe me, ask the victims in Oklahoma.
They can't differentiate between terrorists and Muslims.
I suppose none of the IRA bombs were placed by Catholic fundamentalists right you know nothing moron? And Christians didn't slaughter Muslims and Jews wholesale during the Crusades?
What's even stupider about your statement is trying to claim wht happened to Daniel Pearl has any significance at all. What do you think happens to all the disappeared 'enemy combatants' in black sites sent there by thee CIA? Then never heard from again.
You are naive and stupid.
Your religion is NOT superior to any other religion. Your torture, intolerance, and straight up stupidity (like trying to outlaw abortion or restrict birth control) is the exact same crap you rail against Muslims for.
There simply is no distinction between radical Catholics, radical Protestants, and radical Muslims.
Don't believe me, ask the victims in Oklahoma.
Don't try to alter history, Sergeant. The highest gas prices in our nations history was July 2008, when gasoline reached $4.21 a gallon.
That was when 1% oilmen George W. Bush and Dick Cheney ran the executive office.
Surprised?
That was when 1% oilmen George W. Bush and Dick Cheney ran the executive office.
Surprised?
You lib nut jobs are going to lose hard in 2012. Will you pack up your boats and sail to a new land?
We can only hope so.
Look up some statistics and try to learn something this morning.
Lib fanatics, on the level of Jack Sprat, are less than 20% of the US population. A minority by any definition.
You will be CRUSHED in a general election.
So instead of doing the intelligent move, and trying to mitigate things through cooperation with the right, you simpletons draw a line in the and you will surely lose.
But you will have your principles (not really libs don't have principles...name one principle that a lib really has except the lust for power)... Libs lost the House and soon the Senate and Whitehouse.
Again, for those to stupid to know any better... the price of oil is way up the list of indicators of who will win a presidential election.
One last thing, someone tell me the difference between the blind dogma spewn and intent to codify into law the lib communists beliefs of their teachings, when one listens to a radicalized lib like Obama, or a radicalized Muslim in the Middle East.
They are both the same person. Different comic book same despot.
We can only hope so.
Look up some statistics and try to learn something this morning.
Lib fanatics, on the level of Jack Sprat, are less than 20% of the US population. A minority by any definition.
You will be CRUSHED in a general election.
So instead of doing the intelligent move, and trying to mitigate things through cooperation with the right, you simpletons draw a line in the and you will surely lose.
But you will have your principles (not really libs don't have principles...name one principle that a lib really has except the lust for power)... Libs lost the House and soon the Senate and Whitehouse.
Again, for those to stupid to know any better... the price of oil is way up the list of indicators of who will win a presidential election.
One last thing, someone tell me the difference between the blind dogma spewn and intent to codify into law the lib communists beliefs of their teachings, when one listens to a radicalized lib like Obama, or a radicalized Muslim in the Middle East.
They are both the same person. Different comic book same despot.
DOES ANYONE ELSE FIND IT DISTURBING THAT IN THIS "REPUBLIC" OF OURS ONE INDIVIDUAL, ALBEIT THE PRESIDENT, CAN TORPEDO A PIPELINE AND HALT DRILLING BY FIAT?
"sgt rock" believes the President of the United States is just like a "radicalized Muslim in the Middle East.
That"s today's Republican Party.
That"s today's Republican Party.
Thank You PeteNYC.
I copied and pasted Jack Sprat's post and just exchanged a few words.
Like for instance where he states Santorum is the same as a radicalized Muslim in the Middle East then I just replace Santorum with Obama.
Thanks for help there Buddy.
I copied and pasted Jack Sprat's post and just exchanged a few words.
Like for instance where he states Santorum is the same as a radicalized Muslim in the Middle East then I just replace Santorum with Obama.
Thanks for help there Buddy.
Good one Rock, just too subtle for the liberal mind.
cng is 50 cents a GGE in parts of Canada. Sherm generates lots of gas.
Fun Fact: Obama is setting up some October surprises for the GOP with his scandalous regime-Solyndra, Fast and Furious, and now MediaMattersGate. Stay tuned folks!
Ah, irony!
No, I had not read that dumb comparison of Rick Santorum to "radical Muslims."
I think we should all avoid comparing our domestic political opponents to foreign religious fanatics.
No, I had not read that dumb comparison of Rick Santorum to "radical Muslims."
I think we should all avoid comparing our domestic political opponents to foreign religious fanatics.
To get back to the topic. We have a better energy policy now. We had bad ones starting with Reagan and ending with Bush Jr.
"sgt rock" believes the President of the United States is just like a "radicalized Muslim in the Middle East.
That"s today's Republican Party.
What's odd is, Pete, they don't see it. Look at the posts from the right wing nuts (Sherman is smart enough to just keep quiet). Name-calling; phony accusations; weird predictions of President Obama's demise; not a one able to address or discuss a single point. Dodge the message - attack the messenger. It's actually kind of sad, seeing the delusional responses. They just call you and me - and Reid - and President Obama, names. It's all they have. They're so representative of the uneducated right. They just don't get it. Then Sherman will post another phony accusation and watch his local minions dodge more truth and fact.
That"s today's Republican Party.
What's odd is, Pete, they don't see it. Look at the posts from the right wing nuts (Sherman is smart enough to just keep quiet). Name-calling; phony accusations; weird predictions of President Obama's demise; not a one able to address or discuss a single point. Dodge the message - attack the messenger. It's actually kind of sad, seeing the delusional responses. They just call you and me - and Reid - and President Obama, names. It's all they have. They're so representative of the uneducated right. They just don't get it. Then Sherman will post another phony accusation and watch his local minions dodge more truth and fact.
What's odd is, Pete, they don't see it. Look at the posts from the leftwing nuts (Sherman sometimes point them out). Name-calling; phony accusations; false predictions of President Obama's rise; not a one able to address or discuss a single point. Dodge the message - attack the messenger. It's actually kind of sad, seeing the delusional responses. They just call you and me and Santorum and Romney - names. It's all they have. They're so representative of the uneducated left. They just don't get it. Then Sherman will post another enlighten truth article and watch the local kool-aid heads dodge more truth and fact.
to "sgt.rock": not me.
Through all of the posturing and bs comments made here, Mrs. Ed made the most significant point, that CNG is $0.50 for a gasoline gallon equivalent in Western Canada. Canada, like the US is awash in cheap natural gas. If we can convert vehicles in sufficient quantities to using natural gas, it will be a HUGE boon to the economy and our balance of payments and will keep petrodollars out of the hands of our enemies. Our political leaders should promote this conversion as an interim solution while we continue to build the use of renewables for stationary applications and recharging of CNG/electric hybrid cars.
Also, local gas utilities, like SW Gas, should be prompted by the PUC's to get into the CNG refueling business.
Also, local gas utilities, like SW Gas, should be prompted by the PUC's to get into the CNG refueling business.
Noticon, converting carburated vehicles to cng is easy and inexpensive. EFI is more challenging and costly but doable.
Fuel tanks are an issue, they need to be crash safe. As such they take a lot more room in the vehicle. Since the mileage remains the same we get a far shorter distance from the smaller capacity fuel tanks.
This is small in comparison to the costs involved in changing the fuel delivery systems (gas stations). The costs on this are extreme, but doable over time.
Changing to cng is the right way but it is not an overnight process by any means.
Fuel tanks are an issue, they need to be crash safe. As such they take a lot more room in the vehicle. Since the mileage remains the same we get a far shorter distance from the smaller capacity fuel tanks.
This is small in comparison to the costs involved in changing the fuel delivery systems (gas stations). The costs on this are extreme, but doable over time.
Changing to cng is the right way but it is not an overnight process by any means.
Folks, when discussing "converting carburated vehicles", aren't you overlooking Ø's energy plan? Let me quote the nut of Obama’s energy policy found in a single paragraph of his budget:
"As we continue to pursue clean energy technologies that will support future economic growth, we should not devote scarce resources to subsidizing the use of fossil fuels produced by some of the largest, most profitable companies in the world. That is why the Budget eliminates inefficient fossil fuel subsidies that impede investment in clean energy sources and undermine efforts to address the threat of climate change."
Last time I checked, natural gas was one of the "fossil fuels", right?
"As we continue to pursue clean energy technologies that will support future economic growth, we should not devote scarce resources to subsidizing the use of fossil fuels produced by some of the largest, most profitable companies in the world. That is why the Budget eliminates inefficient fossil fuel subsidies that impede investment in clean energy sources and undermine efforts to address the threat of climate change."
Last time I checked, natural gas was one of the "fossil fuels", right?
why should taxpayers spend money subsidizing oil and coal companies?
It's the OUTGO(spending) that's killing us.
Not the INTAKE (taxes).
Look at Greece.
Not the INTAKE (taxes).
Look at Greece.
What does Greece have to do with anything - and, especially, with U.S. energy policy?
gee, petey. Maybe Greece has to do with socialism as a failure, and the direction Ø (and you) want to take our country?
d'ya think?
d'ya think?
no, I don't think that. Greece is in the same dire economic boat as Spain, Ireland and Portugal, three countries with very low tax rates, and low levels of sovereign debt. In fact, until 2009 Republicans used to tout Ireland as an economic policy model for the U.S.
The strongest economies in Europe are the countries that have the most "socialistic" social programs: Germany, France, the Nordics. Why is that?
The strongest economies in Europe are the countries that have the most "socialistic" social programs: Germany, France, the Nordics. Why is that?
Hi Pete, Going round with people who, through either paranoia or not wanting posters to know who they work for, start by using a fake name is hard. They lack credibility by hiding behind such low brow tactics. When they can come clean and honestly post as themselves then they might have a little credibility. Until then they babble.
Gee, petey, how do you think Germany would do if we withdrew all 60,000 American troops stationed there? Think that might cut into their "social programs" a little bit?
Mark, just because I disagree with your unrealistic view of a socialist Utopia, doesn't make me a babbler, now, does it? Besides, Athos had the qualities most desired in people of aristocracy. Betcha didn't know that, did you, Mark?
Mark, just because I disagree with your unrealistic view of a socialist Utopia, doesn't make me a babbler, now, does it? Besides, Athos had the qualities most desired in people of aristocracy. Betcha didn't know that, did you, Mark?
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