We'll tell you what you can eat
Fresh-from-the-farm organic produce: considered by your county health department, right here in River City, to be a "bio-hazard" not suitable to be fed to pigs?
The incident occurred Oct. 21 in Moapa, Ariz., about an hour northeast of Las Vegas. See: www.quailhollowfarmcsa.com
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to "We'll tell you what you can eat"
Yet government employees can't figure out why some people have no respect for them and don't care about them losing their job.
No warrant, "get off the property" and she left! That is a good one. Doesn't say if the cops had a warrant but I bet if they tried to get one a Judge would have laughed them out of the courtroom.
They shouldn't expect much from gov boy Tom Collins, he's just grandstanding while looking for a way to make those inspections stronger.
Farm to Fork in Overton, green farming even and its not good enough for these gov "health nazis"
They shouldn't expect much from gov boy Tom Collins, he's just grandstanding while looking for a way to make those inspections stronger.
Farm to Fork in Overton, green farming even and its not good enough for these gov "health nazis"
Sounds like this guys blessed by being in a country absolutely full of responsible authorities. I mean, there was one bad one, and lots of reasonable good ones; you trying to make the government look good here Mr. Suprynowicz?
Thanks Vin, as a former Moapa Valley resident, I needed that...
And here's another take on it: http://controlfreaku.com/wordpress/freak-of-the-week-11-11.html
These people are just getting a taste of the bureaucratic nightmare that passes as the Health Department. How many thousands of food and beverage workers pay $50 per year to watch some dumb movie sponsored by the SNHD?
The real question, Vin, is have we lost our ability for self governance? How else do you explain government tyranny as witnessed here, and EVERY IRS office, across the land?
The real question, Vin, is have we lost our ability for self governance? How else do you explain government tyranny as witnessed here, and EVERY IRS office, across the land?
From the web page you link to:
"We explained the situation, offered anyone interested a full refund..."
This was no simple gathering of friends; this was the operation of a restaurant.
If you're going to sell food for public consumption the public have a right to know it's coming from approved sources and prepared in a safe manner. And I say this as someone who spent over 30 years running restaurants.
I've operated concessions at the LV Motor Speedway in the past, and what these people were doing was essentially the same thing. They were staging a public event and selling food in a location that is not a normal place of business. When I was at the LVMS the health department came out and insepcted us before we were allowed to sell to the public. They did the same thing when I was serving food at UNLV football games. If it was a commercial operation, if I was selling prepared food to the public, the health department was there to check on me.
If you oppose that, you should oppose health department inspections of all restaurants, whether permanent or temporary.
"We explained the situation, offered anyone interested a full refund..."
This was no simple gathering of friends; this was the operation of a restaurant.
If you're going to sell food for public consumption the public have a right to know it's coming from approved sources and prepared in a safe manner. And I say this as someone who spent over 30 years running restaurants.
I've operated concessions at the LV Motor Speedway in the past, and what these people were doing was essentially the same thing. They were staging a public event and selling food in a location that is not a normal place of business. When I was at the LVMS the health department came out and insepcted us before we were allowed to sell to the public. They did the same thing when I was serving food at UNLV football games. If it was a commercial operation, if I was selling prepared food to the public, the health department was there to check on me.
If you oppose that, you should oppose health department inspections of all restaurants, whether permanent or temporary.
John F, this is a Farm to Fork event. The Health Dept needs to learn just what it was inspecting BEFORE they send untrained people being directed by inexperience supervisors to ensure all is ok. In addition it is NOT a public event it is a prepay, limited once a year event.
Yes it needs some oversight but that oversight needs to be appropriate for the activity.
Next time I hope they contact their legal aid organization well before the event so the can get those "t"s crossed and the "i"s dotted. This way they will be able to continue these events. Which if you have never had farm fresh food you really should if you get the chance.
Yes it needs some oversight but that oversight needs to be appropriate for the activity.
Next time I hope they contact their legal aid organization well before the event so the can get those "t"s crossed and the "i"s dotted. This way they will be able to continue these events. Which if you have never had farm fresh food you really should if you get the chance.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't "farm fresh" food any food grown on a "farm"? And, was the reason the country insisted on inspections of farm fresh food the result of farms growing food that was hazardous to people from the beginning?
I mean, the FDA came about BECAUSE farms were passing on food to consumers that was poisoning them, not otherwise.
I mean, the FDA came about BECAUSE farms were passing on food to consumers that was poisoning them, not otherwise.
@ xfmrhsd: They were selling food to those members of the public willing to pay. Anyone could have bought a ticket simply going to their web site and paying through Paypal. It was a public event by definition.
The people hosting this event should have known the health department would be checking on them. If I were putting something like this on I would have called the health department in advance.
That being said, I think the question that needs to be asked - and where I think the health department was definitely out of line -was in demanding the farmers destroy the food. They had no right telling farmers they couldn't raise and eat their own food. The only authority the health department had was to tell them whether they could offer it for public sale. Is the health department now going to tell us we can't hunt for deer and then serve the venison at a backyard barbecue because it isn't USDA certified? Nor does the health department have any authority over what farm animals are fed; that's not part of their mandate.
So there is a distinction to be drawn here, and that is the distinction between what I can eat and what I can sell you. I'm betting the health department functionaries told the farmers to destroy the food because they were afraid that they'd go ahead with the sale as soon as the inspector left. That, too, is out of line. Way out of line.
The people hosting this event should have known the health department would be checking on them. If I were putting something like this on I would have called the health department in advance.
That being said, I think the question that needs to be asked - and where I think the health department was definitely out of line -was in demanding the farmers destroy the food. They had no right telling farmers they couldn't raise and eat their own food. The only authority the health department had was to tell them whether they could offer it for public sale. Is the health department now going to tell us we can't hunt for deer and then serve the venison at a backyard barbecue because it isn't USDA certified? Nor does the health department have any authority over what farm animals are fed; that's not part of their mandate.
So there is a distinction to be drawn here, and that is the distinction between what I can eat and what I can sell you. I'm betting the health department functionaries told the farmers to destroy the food because they were afraid that they'd go ahead with the sale as soon as the inspector left. That, too, is out of line. Way out of line.
x, and John F in agreement? Wow. There is hope (and not the ø kind)
A government official overreaching?
A government official overreaching?
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."
Can citizens delegate powers to government that they themselves do not hold?
Can citizens delegate powers to government that they themselves do not hold?
Is there a power than men do not hold? (Other than magic powers obviously)
Oh, been nowhere except in the delusional canyons of your own mind, you are a silly goose!
Powers that man doesn't hold? Like, controlling the weather? Or controlling the heart of another?
There's two that should get you started.
Powers that man doesn't hold? Like, controlling the weather? Or controlling the heart of another?
There's two that should get you started.
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