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Speculators bet against housing

Nevada home values seen sliding 20 percent

WASHINGTON -- U.S. home prices have fallen further since mid-2006 than during the 1990-91 recession and professional traders bet they'll plunge up to 10 percent more the next year.

At the same time, a West Coast university economist is predicting home prices will drop 20 percent over the next few years in Nevada and two other states.


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  • If the speculative traders making big-money bets on where housing prices are headed are right, the question is not whether a U.S. recession is ahead but when it will start.

    Sizable drops in home prices in a year would likely curtail consumer spending sharply. Yale University economist Robert Shiller, who has long warned of inflated home prices, says a big hit to U.S. housing assets, worth about $23 trillion, would shock the broader economy.

    "It will upset balance sheets, it will upset lots of our economic institutions," said Shiller, who argues that prices were driven higher by greed, not people looking to buy a place to live. Adjusting for inflation, housing prices have soared 86 percent in the past decade although some cities, such as New York, Los Angeles and Washington, saw far larger jumps than most regions of the country.

    Yet homeowners across the nation tapping into credit lines pegged to the value of their houses has been a potent economic driver in recent years. For the vast majority of U.S. households, the home is the most substantial financial asset they hold. If its value plummets so does their sense of prosperity, which can restrict spending on everything from vacations to cars and eating out or buying new clothes.

    Home prices fell less than 3 percent during the economic downturn of the early 1990s and rose through the 2001 recession, but have already dropped 3.2 percent over the past year, according to a closely watched housing market index created by Shiller.

    "This time, we're in a bigger boom, and we face the possibility of a bigger decline," Shiller told lawmakers last week. "It's not just an issue of a recession coming up, it's an issue of a drag on the economy, which might extend over many years."

    Record energy prices are stirring recession worries as the U.S. heads into the coldest season of the year in most parts of the country.

    Signs of the housing market fallout are easy to find. Employers cut jobs in August for the first time in four years. Especially hard hit: homebuilders and mortgage lending companies.

    On Tuesday, homebuilder Lennar Corp. posted a third-quarter loss of more than $510 million, said it had cut its work force by 35 percent so far this year; it warned of future job losses.

    Lennar's disappointment came the same day the National Association of Realtors reported existing home sales fell in August to the lowest level in five years.

    The slowdown is extending to major retailers, including Target Corp. and Lowe's Cos., which have trimmed profit expectations for the year as consumer spending wanes.

    "It's going to be a distressingly long time before we get back to normal," said University of California, Los Angeles economist Edward Leamer, who predicts a 20 percent price slide over three or four years in once red-hot real estate markets like California, Nevada and Florida.

    Since the magnitude of this housing boom was unprecedented, economists are uncertain about how severe the downturn will be, says Susan Wachter, a real estate and finance professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business. She rates the odds of recession in the next year at one in three.

    "We are in uncharted territory," she adds, noting that a recession would further slow recovery in the battered housing market.

    Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan estimates the likelihood of recession, generally defined as two consecutive quarters of a decline in economic growth, is less than 50 percent but greater than 1-in-3 odds.

    The Fed, chaired by Ben Bernanke, calculates that a 20 percent drop in inflation-adjusted home prices over two years would cut U.S. economic growth up to 11/2 percentage points after three years. The delay in the impact represents how long it takes negative or positive events to show up in GDP when the economy is as large and as dynamic as in the U.S., according to Fed research.

    Not everyone sees a gloomy outlook. The National Association of Realtors industry trade group, which had been criticized by economists and bloggers for its sunny predictions during the boom times, remains optimistic.

    The group's senior economist, Lawrence Yun, projects home sales will stabilize after modest gains early next year.

    Peter Orszag, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, told lawmakers last week that financial market turmoil, weakened consumer confidence and the housing market downturn pose economic threats but are not likely to sink the economy.

    On the plus side, the nation's unemployment rate is low as are long-term interest rates. Benchmark stock indexes are up for the year despite a rocky summer and inflation appears to be in check.

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    mr optimistic wrote on September 27, 2007 07:15 PM: LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not everyone sees a gloomy outlook. The National Association of Realtors industry trade group, which had been criticized by economists and bloggers for its sunny predictions during the boom times, remains optimistic.

    The group's senior economist, Lawrence Yun, projects home sales will stabilize after modest gains early next year.


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    lddavison wrote on September 27, 2007 06:37 PM: ...and the NAR is "optimistic"? About the best the realtor bunch could do to salvage any credibility at all would be to just be quite.

    Most people out kicking the tires and aware of what has taken place in Las Vegas real estate the last few years could see a huge drop in prices coming with almost certainty. Now it seems that predictions of another 20% are becoming routine.

    Another story on Reuters today reported that KB Homes is saying the slump will continue next year. Everyone seems to choking in reality.

    But the NAR is still "optimistic"? Duh!


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    DT wrote on September 27, 2007 05:37 PM: I haven't seen ONE mention about Payoption ARMs yet in any article. These are the loans that offer a minimum payment that is FAR less than the monthly interest payment owed to the bank. This difference in payment is added each month to the mortgage balance. These loans were extremely popular for the last 2-3 years, and for most of 2005-2006 lenders were offering these loans up to 100% financing!!! Almost guaranteed to foreclose on in a declining market, as they can't afford the 'real' payment in the first place!! Anyway i haven't even heard a snippet about these guys yet. Should be interesting to see how that part plays out.


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    oldlawdawg wrote on September 27, 2007 12:06 PM: Magic!


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    oldlawdawg wrote on September 27, 2007 12:05 PM: Why is it that the RJ will not post any comments arguing against government bail-outs for the current fall in housing market even if it means a recession, and suggesting that our entire economy has been so over-inflated by greed for so long that we need to just grin and bear it so we wind up with an economy that is based at least in part on "reality" rather than speculation, "derivative" securities and debt, debt debt, and finally get ourselves off the debt craze -- a comment just like the one I posted well over an hour ago when this page was empty, and just like the many others I have posted in recent months that never made the page? Could it be all the advertising money from developers and realtors? Or do such observations not "gel" with the daily "real estate" section wherein the RJ pimps for every developer who buys enough advertising space? You may not like my point of view, but it is shared by many and my comments were thought out and well written (even though I cannot spell for beans). What gives, editors?


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    oldlawdawg wrote on September 27, 2007 10:48 AM: Sudden bad health cost me my job, marriage and home a while back,so I certainly don't relish seeing anyone suffer in hardship.HOWEVER,government bail-outs cause more harm than good,and a housing market driven recession,no matter how painful,may be the ONLY the means of allowing our entire economy to reach naturaly healthy levels because the effects will be accross the board.For example,the equity markets have long been so grossly "over-heated" Americans view a Dow above 11,800 as a minimum God-given right,demanding federal intervention when it falls below 10,300 for so much as a quarter even though "Average Jane" hasn't been a real "player" in the equity markets for years.Extremely wealthy and institutional investors created a boomimg secondary mortgage market to capitalize on all those nosebleed interest generating ARM's,even though most backed by (sub)-sub-prime credit.Developers,already fat on slapping up shoddy homes with the cheapest labor to be sold at outrageous prices for years,kept doing so knowing somebody would finance the sales.A new Lowes,Home Depot or Bust Buy seemed to open daily in every neigborhood.Every empty-nest parent or former day-trader became a realtor.All of this driven largely by homeowners who could not afford to buy a home at all but rolled the dice anyway by squeeking into a 2 or 5-year interest-only ARM hoping for a 100-200% return on their investment before that unaffordable ARM became reality.Demand was so great money was no object BECAUSE WE HAD EVERYTHING WE NEEDED - GREED AND A RAVENOUS CREDIT MARKET WHICH PROVIDES THE TRUE BUT HIDDEN SOURCE OF AMERICA'S WEALTH -- DEBT.Economists and policy makers saw it coming for years -- anyone with a brain saw it,but were blinded by greed.AMERICA MUST READJUST ITS EXPECTATIONS,RESIST DEMANDS FOR EXPENSIVE GOVERNMENT BAND-AID-BAILOUTS, GET REAL AGAIN AND STAY THAT WAY.IT'S THE ONLY WAY "HOME" AGAIN.