Roger wrote on January 27, 2008 02:03 PM: Gibbons and Reid can not see how some of us do not want our deserts covered with powerlines, solay panels and wind turbines. We will fight this and will try to tell these idiots that rooftop solar should be promoted. Green energy can hardly be "green" when vast pieces of desert are scraped away.

douglas wrote on January 25, 2008 06:06 PM: what's amusing is that while hapless harry reid has vowed to make the u.s. increasingly dependent on imported crude oil, the leftist party hacks spin that the current administration favors the oil industry.

it sure looks like hapless harry favors, is in cahoots with, those oil producing nations.

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GOD wrote on January 25, 2008 12:46 PM: Dave L and Angel --- you're a bunch of typical idiots. You must live off welfare and PRAY for government subsidies to come every month in your mailbox.

Taxpayers subsidies for solar, wind, and thermal energy is FREE money to a company. Nevada Power / Sierra Pacific PAY for additional transmission lines themselves from power plant to current grid.

Roads do not go to private companies bottom line i.e. pockets - Dave L you're such a brainiac, go back to grade school and learn how capitalism works. We don't need to provide alternative energies welfare, they just need to cough up the money themselves.

Newmount Gold Mine just built a coal fired power plant in Dunphy, NV, built the transmission line with their OWN money and will sell any excess power back to the grid. Did they need government welfare/stimulus/subsidies to do so... NOOOOOO! Did Angel or Dave L. know this... NOOOOO!

Nevada Power has proposed to do the same with power coming from Ely, NV with solar and wind power pickybacking on their transmission line from Ely to Las Vegas, but that's on hold for now and another gas fired unit will be built in Apex in the next couple of years because Harry Reid is delaying this as much as possible. Get ready for higher power bills.

ths wrote on January 25, 2008 08:51 AM: Here is where the US can learn from other countries. Many European countries have power lines that go through undisturbed natural areas. You ask how did they get their and how do they maintain them. Helicopters is the answer. The costs are offset by not building the roads to get there. They build the towers at a central site and helicopter lift them into place. They string the lines and then do all their maintenance from helicopters.

I know, now someone is going to say the noise of the helicopters is going to disturb the desert tortoise's matting habits. One has to give to get. Is it coal, or solar and what are long term affects. Either needs transmission lines.

douglas wrote on January 25, 2008 08:31 AM: what is the intrinsic difference between "transporting" electricity through lands loaded with endangered, threatened weeds and critters, and transporting that nuclear waste on railroad tracks or existing highways ?

the roads to service those towers will disrupt the environment as will the maintenance crew traffic. and tweetie bird will get hung up in those power lines. and those towers with their service roads will interrupt the historic migration routes of scorpions and desert tortoises. who knows how many threatened weeds will be destroyed ?

the "green" agenda should begin the law suits at once. and with hapless harry reid at the forefront, he could again vow to spend whatever taxprayer money necessary to congest the courts with lawsuits to stall the projects.

best news is that he may arrange to find other jobs for those construction and maintenance crews that'll never be hired. same as he stated he'd find employment for the yucca project workers.

ths wrote on January 25, 2008 08:11 AM: Renewable has a much larger up front cost and the problem is private companies. They look at up front costs and not long term. The US economy is so short sited, unlike many other places like Japan that looks 100 years out.
Long term even with up front investment over 10 years renewable becomes cheaper then the old ways in generating power, but us share holders punish companies because we want our profits now.
So don't just look at our government, look at our investors.

Jerry Mac wrote on January 25, 2008 08:07 AM: I disagree with you Angel: The primary objective of Hoover Dam was to provide stable irrigation to the Imperial Valley in southern California. Energy production was a by-product.

The “green” transmission interconnect is a great idea and let the government subsidize. Just be certain in the design to cross a natural gas or a rail line (which you know is going to happen) so we could also add environmentally friendly natural gas or coal fired plants to the mix. This will save the Nevada ratepayers a load of money and add more pork to our federal budget.

Oh, and to name a transmission line as “green” is ludicrous unless it is painted that color. Power is going to flow based on system parameters from generation to the loads. Natural gas, coal, nuclear, solar, geothermal, wind sources will contribute to the loading of the line (of course some more than others).

Dave L wrote on January 25, 2008 07:53 AM: god,

And how would you explain the existence of "roads"?



"Not that it's a bad thing, but that the government has to build its infrastructure and provide tons of subsidies for it even to exist, all at taxpayers expense."



i quess your vote cancels mine out.

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