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DEAL BUT NO DEALER

Automated game at Excalibur eliminates dealer; players' opinions so far uneven



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A Las Vegas poker dealer, who for obvious reasons did not want to give his name, had conflicting reactions while trying out the new electronic poker tables at the Excalibur.

As a dealer, he hated the 10-player tables which are fully automated and do not require cards, chips or a dealer. In other words, one less casino job.

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  • As a poker player participating in a low-limit cash game, though, he found the tables easy to maneuver and faster than live games.

    "I played on these tables before on a cruise ship," the dealer commented. "They are very advantageous for the player. There are never any misdeals. I think we'll see a lot more of these games."

    Excalibur became the first Strip resort to fully automate its poker room last month, installing 12 electronic tables provided by North Carolina-based PokerTek for a six-month exclusive run. About 40 dealer positions were eliminated but the room still employs a staff of 20 cashiers and poker hosts who have been trained on the system.

    The casino, owned by MGM Mirage, is offering free roll tournaments every morning and low-limit cash games to build interest in the refurbished poker room. Excalibur officials said revenues from poker had been falling and interest in the game was waning.

    Installing the electronic tables was a way to make live poker less intimidating to the resort's middle-market customer base.

    "We are slowly bringing the room out," said Excalibur poker room manager Ed Malinowski, who also oversees the casino's race and sports book and keno operations. "We're getting a good initial response, which is what we were hoping for. Players are quickly getting comfortable with the tables."

    Players sign in using an MGM Mirage Players Club Card, which makes the games cashless. The tables, which can be set for low-limit Texas hold 'em, Omaha and seven card stud, keep track of statistics and other game data.

    The tables are electronic but poker players compete against other poker players in a live game. The tables have a feel that combines video poker with Internet poker in a poker room setting.

    The tables have individual touch screens for each player and a 40-inch flat screen in the middle to display community cards, players' table stakes and the pot.

    The individual screens show players their hole cards. Like live poker, the casino does not know the hole cards nor does the player have to show them after folding. The electronic machines keep a record of the action that could be used to settle disputes about collusion or other allegations.

    "I'm a tournament player and I wasn't sure I would really like them at first," said Lorene Hicks of Las Vegas, who was waiting for a free roll tournament to begin. Hicks played at the Excalibur before the changeover from live dealers.

    "The (electronic) tables have much faster hands and it's pretty easy to learn," Hicks said. "I brought some friends over today so they could try them out. I still plan on playing at live poker tables as well."

    PokerTek received Nevada gaming regulators' approval in August to field-test the system. The company placed 12 games in the Trump Plaza in Atlantic City in June and has more than 230 machines worldwide. The company's largest automated poker room is at the Casino du Montreal, which has 25 tables.

    Marie Claude and her boyfriend, Michael Leblanc of Quebec City, have played on the poker tables in several Canadian casinos. The couple, which makes frequent trips to Las Vegas, were surprised to find the games at Excalibur.

    "They are very popular in Canada and you play a lot more hands," Claude said.

    Not all poker players were happy with the new tables. Justin Tribble of Las Vegas, who was playing in an Excalibur free roll tournament, said he wouldn't return.

    Tribble heard about the changeover and decided to give the tables a try.

    "I want to feel chips and cards. I want to be able to say 'raise,'" Tribble said. "I miss having the dealers because they can keep control. These tables are not for me."

    Malinowski said players who like to fumble with poker chips while trying to figure out their hands can purchase chips from the casino for that purpose.

    Contact reporter Howard Stutz at hstutz@reviewjournal.com or 702-477-3871.



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    superd wrote on September 05, 2008 11:23 AM: Saw the tables at excalibur and I think they will be a big hit in vegas, I am guessing they will still have live games but the electronic will steal the blue hairs and the weekenders away from video poker. Innovation in vegas usually creates jobs. I have seen the electonic roulette at harrahs and it is hard to get a seat at night. Low stake table games are hard to find in vegas so I see this as a big breakthrough. This weekend with NFL opening will be a good test


    052E wrote on September 04, 2008 08:58 PM: A couple of L.A. poker rooms have 'em. They just sit there, unused.


    ????? wrote on September 03, 2008 01:05 PM: Excalibur is the "Hot Dog Stand" on the strip. I would never go there and feel sorry for anyone who has to deal(pardon the pun) with these jerks. Sorry for the poor people who no longer have a job.


    ex gambler wrote on September 03, 2008 03:04 AM: haven't played them but i wonder how the multi-position electronic roulette games are doing ?

    Do you see any around town? That should tell you something. Besides with skimpier casino drops, the freebies, on which you thrive, will all be eliminated. Which means you will have nowhere to go for your dinner but the TV dinner aisle at WalMart.


    send us your nuke waste wrote on September 02, 2008 11:36 PM: one trick pony town

    grind joints, all of em


    douglas wrote on September 02, 2008 10:21 PM: electronic versions of most table games should be in place as casino drop gets skimpier and labor wage expense rises.

    could be that casinos in the near future will have a limited number of traditional games just to make the joint look like a casino. mebbe a big 6 by the main entrance [with a good talker], couple of wheel games, couple of dice tables, couple of 6:5 21 games, mebbe a big bac table in some "salon", and a few high house edge carnie games. the rest, electronic versions or new theme slots.

    haven't played them but i wonder how the multi-position electronic roulette games are doing ?

    as to the poster who tokes *all* food servers automatically, those drive-through fast food, window clerks must like him.


    Eric wrote on September 02, 2008 08:42 PM: I see the attitudes about this coming down as one of 2 ways of thinking, one says that this is a fad that will pass away, the other believing that this is a harbinger of things to come, where all casino poker consists of this form of dealerless poker.

    I take a different attitude. I believe that this game might have legs at the ultra-low stakes, and possibly in the low stakes games, but at the higher stakes, I believe that players would prefer to play with a live dealer with live cards.

    Then again, remember, there was a time when the players themselves were responsible for dealing, and that "form" of poker has gone the way of the Dodo, so anything's possible.

    But I don't think the days of dealerless poker are at hand by a long shot. I believe this will find it's niche and will thrive within its niche.

    It's like the old debates on whether movies will eliminate radio, or whether TV would destroy both. They all found their specific niche. This is no different.


    K wrote on September 02, 2008 07:16 PM: The tire comment is funny! If the public really likes something, great.
    If the public does not like it, it
    will not sell. The classic flop that
    comes to mind is the Edsel car. Betamax and expensively produced movies the public does not like come to mind. All I say is let's not abuse
    the human worker. If they are not driving our cabs or bringing our food,
    they will be on unemployment or welfare and we will pay even more!!!


    Will Happen wrote on September 02, 2008 06:36 PM: This will become mainstream just like the paper printed tickets that replaced dirty coins out of the slot machines. I like the paper.

    Look at your local Smiths store. You're checking your own groceries now. I remember the days when I said that I would never pump my own gas too.

    When will the day will come when I go to Discount Tire and I have to mount my own tires. Err, don't answer that. HA !


    K wrote on September 02, 2008 06:28 PM: Dear jstdatruth, I am sure you are the
    one dealers don't want to deal to and players don't want to play with. I'm
    sure you stiff the coctail server, food server and the taxi driver. Remember,
    what goes around comes around. You may
    be out of a job someday and have to take
    something waiting tables or driving a cab and then I'm sure your attitude will change. As for me, I tip almost everyone, especially my friendly food
    server that brings my order like I wanted it instead of some stupid robot.
    Hope your life gets better, you seem unhappy.


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