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Listed home prices tumbling across U.S., especially in LV

The average listed home price was reduced 10.6 percent nationwide, with larger drops coming in areas hardest hit by foreclosures such as Detroit, Las Vegas and Miami, a San Francisco-based real estate search firm reported Friday.

That's encouraging news for prospective buyers as $27.4 billion was slashed from the price of homes for sale across America, including $156 million in Las Vegas, said Ken Shuman, spokesman for Trulia Inc., a San Francisco-based real estate search engine company.


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Las Vegas ranks second to Detroit with a 16 percent listing price reduction, from an average of $330,870 to $276,780. List prices in Detroit were cut 23 percent to $62,110, Trulia reported.

Thirty percent of all property listings in Las Vegas have experienced at least one price reduction in the past 12 months, well above the national average of 23.6 percent.

"One of the interesting things about the Las Vegas data is people were talking about an inflated condo boom that created too much inventory," Shuman said, "yet only 22 percent of condos had at least one price reduction versus 32 percent of single-family homes."

Thirty-five percent of homes listed at more than $150,000 dropped their prices at least once, compared with 23 percent of homes priced under $150,000.

Trulia's data did not include foreclosure listings on the market because banks are setting the price and they seldom have any price reductions, Shuman said.

Sellers in Las Vegas realize the market is in the toilet and have been steadily reducing prices, said Sue Naumann, president of Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors.

"The most important thing in marketing a property is price it well," she said. "I counsel my sellers to look at what percentage prices are declining at and you either price it to sell today or you'll hold on to it for a while."

Naumann said she evaluates the market regularly during the listing and adjusts prices accordingly. Sometimes she adjusts the price upward.

"You never know. Everybody wants to get some kind of deal," she said. "The seller wants to maximize what he's getting for the property. Sometimes a deal is not just monetary. There could be some concessions. The seller pays closing costs or a portion of closing costs or offers an appliance package."

Trulia obtained its listing information from real estate brokers, agents, third-party individuals and Multiple Listing Services. The percentage of listings with price reductions includes any property on Trulia not in foreclosure that experienced at least one price reduction since it was first posted on the site.

Contact reporter Hubble Smith at hsmith@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0491.

MARKING THEM DOWN
City Average before reduction Average after reduction Reduction
Detroit $81,120 $62,110 23 percent
Las Vegas $330,870 $276,780 16 percent
Miami $415,860 $354,140 15 percent
Los Angeles $1.11 million $967,040 12.1 percent
New York $2.08 million $1.82 million 13 percent
Phoenix $370,510 $322,160 13 percent
Mesa, Ariz. $311,640 $271,370 13 percent
Jacksonville, Fla. $276,560 $244,230 12 percent
Long Beach, Calif. $619,370 $546,070 12 percent
San Francisco $1.51 million $1.33 million 11 percent
Oakland, Calif. $619,370 $553,750 11 percent
Atlanta $474,500 $424,030 11 percent
Sacramento, Calif. $363,650 $324,910 11 percent
Cleveland $121,399 $107,540 11 percent
SOURCE: Trulia Inc. Percentages are rounded
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jimbojones wrote on June 10, 2009 08:18 AM: Bye Bye Vegas. Bye Bye!!


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marie wrote on June 09, 2009 05:27 PM: I work in a bk lawyer office and this is what I have learnd, modified you loan first lie in your financial statement you have to get in the 31% box on your first loan and in your second loan demand to get it reduce to a 1 or 2% this is nice trick and it works. David you are right Win Win Baby!


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David wrote on June 07, 2009 11:02 AM: A bunch of people I know including myself are letting our homes go. Afterwards, we will repair our credit once the bank forecloses on us, and 9 - 18 months later.

Buy another house at a reduced price.
Win Win Baby!


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perry wrote on June 06, 2009 09:49 PM: goldilock sorry to hear about you bankruptcy in 3 month i be right behind you


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perry wrote on June 06, 2009 09:48 PM: do not trust your realtor all of them are lying p.o.s


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Goldilocks wrote on June 06, 2009 09:27 PM: So, the average home price has fallen only 16 percent? Yeah right! Excuse me, but we bought our house three and a half years ago for $325,000. We just had the house appraised for our pending bankruptcy (yeah, love that word) and it is looking to come back at somewhere between $150,000 to $165,000. Hmmm, seems a bit more than 16 percent if you ask me. They need to factor in the foreclosures, because that is what is driving the prices down in my neighborhood, and I would suspect elsewhere too.

If you can afford to buy right now, you should, no question about that. But if you can stay in your home, you need to do that too. These two things working together are what will start to bring prices back to normal. Not too high, not too low, just right!


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Housingdoom wrote on June 06, 2009 06:26 PM: No Vaseline, I think you and I agree both on point and principle regarding the present RE mess. The dollar continues to fall vis a vis the Euro to historic lows. Yes, inflation is on the horizon due to these insane deficit spending both the GOP & DEMS have engaged in. Thus, if one buys today, the best scenario is for LVhosuing to return to pre 2000 historic appreciation rates of 3 to 5 percent. Sdadly, my take is that prices will fall another 20% over the next two years. This based upon the third wave of loans resetting over the next 18 months and corresponding foreclosures to ensue.The Obama Admin loan modification programs and "Stmulis" has done nothing to avert this oncoming train wreck. Plus, we are already seeing the commerical loan and property meltdown that adds to the dark picture. I see the next ten years as a time of flat RE appreciation at best, if things dont go further south from here. God knows another 9-11 or Mid East Flair up would throw everything into a cocked hat! Then my friend all bets are off.The Federal Govt has shot all its bullets and printing more money will only speed the doomsday of reckoning!


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Dave wrote on June 06, 2009 04:15 PM: Real Deal: Housing is now less expensive than in 1999, well before mortgage fraud was widespread. Do you know what interest rates were in 1999? Hovering around 8%. That really takes a bite out of the home you can afford.

Salaries have risen since 1999, and interest rates are down to about 5 or 6%. Smart investors are buying up houses, and will make positive cash flow immediately. Smart home buyers are also buying right now.

If you will live in the area for longer than 4 or 5 years, renting will not make sense if you can afford to buy a house here. Since you are likely a renter, you should know that rents have not fallen much, if at all, since the housing bust.


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No Vaseline wrote on June 06, 2009 03:58 PM: Housing Doom, I agree with you to a point, and again I am a housing bear and a alternative market investor. All of this gov't stimulous is going to create inflation, thus reflation. You can see it already in RE, how these low Gov. interest rates have picked up sales on the low end to 700k price points. The upper end will suffer for politically no one will save them for there is no reason to save someone from falling out of a 2 million dollar home into a 500k home. But the stimulous will put a floor under 1 million and less real estate. Will RE grow to provide double digit returns, NO...but will it stabilize pricing, yes..and is doing so now.

So if you find a 350k Summerlin home that was built and sold in 2006 for 750k, and its the right home for you, fits your needs with good infrastructure at 60% off...that is hard to find....and it wont be any easier to find at 65% off...so buy it when you find it...unless "doom" you think its going another 50% down from here...if that happens then your dollar is worth nothing and your house will be back to $750k..but overseas that wont buy you dinner.


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HousingDoom wrote on June 06, 2009 03:22 PM: Been blogging on this site and subject for two years, hate to tell you schmucks "I told you so", but hey, real estate is in the big toilet and will be there for another decade. The "real estate" professionals like the poster Arthur Mays are the ones along with the rat pack at GLVAR who aided and abetted this boom and bust! They should all be indicted under the RICCO statues. Unless, you are willing to buy and hold for 10 yrs, you would be a fool to buy now. Prices will over correct to the downside over the next two years given the ponzi run up in pricing from 2001 thru 2006. That is the nature of ballons. Remember the Dot Com era? NASDAQ is still down 50% from its 1999-2000 high, nine years later! And the Dow? Off 40% and languishing. Folks we are really in a depression, masked by massive Govt deficit spending and literally the Nationalization of the Banking system, Insurance and now manufacturing sectors. And, brother, you have not seen anything yet! Dont beleive me? Ok, go out and spend your few dollars on a crackerbox house in a desert dependent on water resources and a one trick pony economy, gaming!


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