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Bottom-scraping prices for foreclosed-upon and bank-owned homes mean bargains for savvy buyers

Investors snap up homes, looking to beat possible price turnaround







How low can it go?

Some real-estate market watchers predict Las Vegas will reach bottom when home prices match those in Detroit, one of the nation's hardest-hit cities for foreclosures and unemployment.


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  • Homes are reportedly selling for just a few thousand dollars there.

    Las Vegas is getting close. The Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors reports that the cheapest single-family detached house for sale on the Multiple Listing Service is $10,000.

    It's an 1,160-square-foot, single-story home with three bedrooms and a bath, built in 1957, at 1389 Lawry Ave., near Martin Luther King and Lake Mead boulevards.

    The bank-owned home lacks amenities such as a pool and spa, built-in backyard barbecue and custom landscaping, and needs repairs. However, it features decorative wrought-iron bars over the windows and reinforced-steel dead bolts on the doors.

    What do you expect for $8 a square foot?

    There are 10 homes listed for sale in Las Vegas for less than $25,000. Most are fixer-uppers in older parts of town, Realtor Robin Camacho of top10realestatevalues.com said.

    Interested in a condominium?

    She found 12 units on the Multiple Listing Service between $11,000 and $20,000, again not in the most desirable areas. At the bottom is a 776-square-foot, two-bedroom unit at 1720 W. Bonanza Road for $11,500.

    Her best deals are found primarily in the east and north areas of Las Vegas. They've been built since 2000 and are priced from $55,000 to $100,000.

    Some need work and some are ready for move-in, like the 1,400-square-foot, two-story home near Sam Boyd Stadium that's listed for $62,000. All it needs is a fresh coat of paint -- maybe just wash the walls -- and the carpets cleaned and it could be rented tomorrow, Camacho said.

    The home sold new for $217,000 in 2007 and will probably get bid up to $85,000, she said.

    Tim Sullivan of San Diego-based Sullivan Group Real Estate Advisors said some home prices may fall even more.

    "I think you will find that a few poorly located homes may see further price drops," he said. "But the best stuff may be leveling soon."

    The key to price stability in Las Vegas is jobs and foreclosures, he said.

    Camacho uses about 70 different factors to determine her top 10 deals, including price, taxes, amenities, condition and location of the home. Homes rotate in and out of her Web site almost hourly as new homes come on the market, she said.

    "We're looking to show houses that are the best value for our client's money," Camacho said, "not just the best price."

    Investors are snapping up some of the deals for rentals, looking to beat any possible price turnaround, she said. The median price of existing single-family homes in California turned up 4.2 percent in May to $267,570.

    The median price in Las Vegas was $130,000 in May, unchanged from the previous month, Home Builders Research reported. It's down 43.5 percent, or $100,000, from a year ago and has returned to the same level of December 2000.

    Home Builders Research President Dennis Smith said he's hearing from Realtors that real estate-owned assignments from the banks are increasing dramatically. Some of those are tentatively going to be listed at $40,000 to $50,000, he said.

    How long it takes the marketplace to absorb these homes will help signal when we can expect to see the bottom of the resale housing segment, Smith said.

    "The reason prices, especially resales, continue to go down is because that's all that's selling," he said. "Why is that? Because the lending environment has changed to where it's difficult to obtain a new loan on anything but (Federal Housing Administration) FHA and (Veterans Affairs) VA."

    An excess supply of homes on the market -- many of them vacant and in foreclosure -- continues to put downward pressure on prices, economist Keith Schwer of the Center for Business and Economic Research said.

    Nevada has been identified as one of four housing bubble states and has experienced the highest rate of foreclosures in the nation.

    The Case-Shiller Home Price Index followed a tight trend line for Southern Nevada from 1987 to 2002, followed by a modest increase in 2003. From 2004 to 2006, the index took off vertically, peaking in 2006, then descending steeply into March. It's now dipped below the trend line, signaling a return to housing affordability in Las Vegas.

    Sellers have slowly and reluctantly lowered home prices, but not enough to soak up excess inventory, Schwer said.

    "We have seen housing price declines over time," he said. "Housing markets invariably adjust slowly to an excess supply, but rapidly to excess demand."

    Housing analyst Smith doubts that median prices in Las Vegas will ever go as low as Detroit.

    "Detroit is home to GM," he said. "How many people are moving from Detroit to Las Vegas and how many people are moving from Las Vegas to Detroit? I don't know any."

    Contact reporter Hubble Smith at hsmith @reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0491.

    CHEAPEST HOMES IN LAS VEGAS

    ADDRESS (ZIP) PRICE SQUARE FEET PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT
    1) 1389 Lawry Ave. (89106) $10,000 1,160 $8
    2) 2214 Daley St. (89030) $12,000 760 $15
    3) 310 Jackson Ave. (89106) $24,000 1,331 $18
    4) 2605 Salt Lake St. (89030) $24,000 1,292 $18
    5) 424 Rossmoyne Ave. (89030) $24,300 988 $24
    6) 1933 Yale St. (89030) $24,500 986 $24
    7) 1105 Meyer St. (89101) $24,900 777 $32
    8) 1019 May Ave. (89104) $24,900 810 $30
    9) 1007 H St. (89106) $25,000 1,024 $24
    10) 408 W. Van Buren Ave. (89106) $25,000 1,280 $19


    SOURCE: Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors

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    Jim wrote on July 19, 2009 07:28 PM: Many of these $25k homes come equiped with a built-in meth dealer!


    sad wrote on July 19, 2009 07:06 PM: We are in this situation due to one word-greed! The key players who reaped the rewards in this market out of control(much like the stock market)were the unscrupulous broker/real estate agents,builders, appraisers and lenders.Their incomes based on commissions,fees and other charges were unreal dollars and they all never looked back to see what the over-inflated annual increase in home values would do to a market that could not support it based on the potential homebuyers income in this county.Paperwork that was created to build a base of buyers who did not either understand what they bought for a mortgage/home or believed the sales pitch of rather questionably "professionals". These buyers are the ones who have lost the most here in Las Vegas-THEIR HOMES/THEIR FUTURES! I came to Nevada from a well regulated state who held this industry accountable for their actions to the public they served and I was shocked to see how these Nevada professionals with licenses operated on a daily basis.What could have been a steady upward growth market with solid values based on real numbers went "haywire" and cost us more than just our homes/it took people's jobs and businesses.


    Thanks wrote on July 19, 2009 06:29 PM: Thanks: NAACP, Affirmative Action, Community Reivestment Act (mortgages to unqualified), Congressional "Black" Caucus, National "Black" Chamber of Commerce, Acorn and so on! You hurt America.


    Happy in Las vegas wrote on July 19, 2009 01:23 PM: I paid 132k for a 3,000 sq ft home with a pool and great floor plan. What is that? $44 a sq ft. Im at Losse and Azure, new shopping centers opening what seems daily, the neighborhood is peaceful and my family is happy. Sink or swim people...
    Now sure, I did bail on my $350,000 2000 sq ft home to get here, but in 7 years I'll be floating in my pool drinking a mohito when that ugly blimish falls off my credit. And I'd like to think another family will be happy in my old home, after paying only 100k or so for it.. Life is good. Now let's hope I don't get laid off...


    Robert wrote on July 19, 2009 12:57 PM: Not Over Yet:

    Those clueless dolts do not think they are getting in at the bottom. It is very hard to call an absolute bottom. On the other hand, people have the tendency to confuse things not getting better with things are getting worse. The real estate market is not getting worse. Although it may not be getting better (which is why one can never trust the publications or mouthpieces for the GLVAR), things are not getting worse. Chris has it largely right. A savvy investor does not have to pick the absolute bottom, only the fortitude to recognize the propensity for increase.

    Casinocon made the case for real estate investment today: "all the people who are simply going to walk away from their homes now that they are worth a third of their mortgage. Where will they go?" They have jobs, families, ties to this community now and can get a rental here (owned by one of those investors) for comparable pricing to other communities. If the investor can buy the home for 1/4 to 1/3 of the Investment price adn rent it back to them, the cash flow is there.

    Skepticism is fine. Pessimism will leave many people believing that they missed the boat again.


    Chris wrote on July 19, 2009 12:26 PM: To all those who believe that Vegas is dying, it's clear you don't have a lot of worldly financial experience. This is my third recession as a professional investor. I offer you one statistic...Vegas is on pace to build 3,500 new homes this year. This is almost one square mile of housing. Therefore, in the worst economy in the history of Vegas, we are still building a sqaure mile of housing. This will lead to some commercial development. I am doing two big commercial projects now. Basically, the Vegas economy is shifting from 5th gear to 3rd gear. 3rd gear is plenty fast. Vegas will experience slow, steady and healthy growth rate over the next 3 years. Please note that I wrote 3 years...not 3 months.


    Mak wrote on July 19, 2009 11:44 AM: Answer man, I know a guy who did just as you did and he's owned his rentals only 6 months and is on eviction #3.

    You want a statistic, and you can verify this one. In Clark County, there have been 20,000 evictions since Jan 1st. That is an AMAZING stat. Those are completed evictions, and don't count the far more cases where the LL posts a 5 day notice and the tenants either pay or disappear. That is 20,000 only where the constable had to come and finish the job.

    In the past 2 months, I've had bounced checks several times too.

    As to screening, hah! I screened, background check, rental references, credit, etc. I still got burned. Plus you have to look at your pool of applicants. I was shocked. Every one of them had charge offs, repos, bankruptcy, sometimes judgments, and even multiple prior evictions. That is who is out there looking to rent. And the other thing is most of them have no job if you really dig. They will tell you they have multiple jobs, self-employed, sell things on ebay, have 3 businesses detailing cars, etc. The reality is they are unemployed. A few will even admit it. Or they say they are moving here and have several jobs lined up. All total BS.


    Not Over Yet wrote on July 19, 2009 10:05 AM: No market goes straight down. This is a simply a pause in a multi-year downtrend. Bottoms don't happen until there's total capitulation and that has NOT happened yet.

    The clueless dolts who think they're getting in at the bottom will be destroyed in the next leg down.

    Bottoms only happen when everyone gives up. At that point, there won't be any newspaper articles about this being "a great time to buy!"

    The same thing happens with stocks. Fools are rushing back in just in time to get crushed when this bear market rally fizzles out later this year. Were these morons getting in late last year near the low? Of course not! At that point, the news was gloomy. Better to wait to get in after a 20%+ rally is nearly over.


    Answer Man wrote on July 19, 2009 09:43 AM: I may be one of the insane investors, as I picked up 9 homes last month, ranging from $23.00 per foot for a 25 year old home, to $46.00 per foot for a 6 year old home in Summerlin. I paid cash for these, and recognize that it's not "Easy money". Bottom line... You cant build for these prices, and it will ultimately come back, once that the banks have released their inventory. In the meantime, I will screen my renters like they've never been screened before, as my $$$ was earning less than 1% in the bank. Anyone that is fortunate enough to buy a home or 2 at these rock bottom prices is CRAZY not to do it, providing you can pay cash for them...


    casinocon wrote on July 19, 2009 09:20 AM: 'real estate-owned assignments from the banks are increasing dramatically' - that is the key. The banks have been holding back this inventory, and there are only more to come, as one in thirteen homes this last six months has received a foreclosure notice. The foreclosure process can take much longer. Then consider all the people who are simply going to walk away from their homes now that they are worth a third of their mortgage. Where will they go? Back to their families in other places, perhaps, or they will rent cheap apartment if they choose to stick around to see if they have a job tomorrow. Why would investors (if they had any brains) buy something just to see it lose value? Vegas is dying. Prices will go lower.


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