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Dropout age change worrisome

Critics say new state law might result in more students quitting school

Jon Williams was behind in credits at Western High School and knew he wasn't going to make up the work on time to graduate with his classmates.

So instead of sticking it out at Western to catch up on health credits dating back to his freshman year, he enrolled in an adult education program this summer. Now he's on pace to graduate early, in January.


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  • But the option to guide struggling 17-year-old students such as Williams in the Clark County School District to adult education classes instead of keeping them at traditional high schools might soon end.

    A new state law passed during the 2007 Legislature increased the age students are legally allowed to drop out of high school to 18 from 17. At least one top state education official said his interpretation of the law is that students who haven't completed their graduation requirements must stay in traditional high schools until 18.

    That law has adult education advocates warning that the Legislature's attempt to keep students in school might actually have the opposite effect, and lead to more dropouts or force the students to attend traditional high school an extra year.

    "Not everybody fits into a traditional school setting," said Sandra Ransel, principal of the district's Desert Rose Adult High School and Career Center. "The decision to leave high school is a very personal decision. Every kid has a different story. Adult high fills a niche."

    About a third of all students who graduated from Desert Rose last school year were 17, Ransel said.

    State schools Superintendent Keith Rheault said he is supportive of the new law. But while the district is still enrolling students who are 17 at Desert Rose, Rheault said that practice might soon change.

    "We're still working through to see how the new law will affect the district," Rheault said. "What I take from the intent (of the law) is that legislators wanted to keep kids at high schools for a year longer, before their final option, an adult (education) diploma."

    Desert Rose, the only adult school in the district, offers classes for 12 hours a day to students 17 and older. Students can earn an Adult Standard Diploma, which is certified by the state.

    Assemblywoman Bonnie Parnell, D-Carson City, the main sponsor for the new law, said it was her understanding that the law still would allow 17-year-old students to attend adult education programs and alternative schools.

    "This does not say that students have to be in a traditional high school," Parnell said. "What we're concerned about is students are in school until they get their diploma or GED."

    Parnell said she's worried that some people think the law at least partially closes the door to students who want to enroll in adult education programs.

    "If that's the case, we need to look at that and do something about it," Parnell said.

    District statistics indicate that some students are dropping out long before they reach 17.

    During the 2005-06 school year, 3,543 students dropped out between their freshman and junior years of high school. During that same year, 1,007 middle school students dropped out.

    The new law does allow students who have completed their high school credit requirements to graduate before the age of 18.

    District officials don't believe the law will affect the district's dropout and graduation rates, which were 5.9 percent and 60.1 percent in the 2005-06 school year.

    Like Parnell, some view keeping students in school an additional year as a positive move.

    "It's one more hurdle they have to get past before they drop out," said Joyce Haldeman, the district's executive director of community and government relations.

    But there are no assurances the students and their parents will follow the new law. Also, the state is not allocating any additional resources to enforce it.

    Michelle Memapan, 18, said she was in and out of high school when she lived in Torrance, Calif. She moved to Las Vegas in December and recently enrolled at Desert Rose.

    She said it's her experience that some students just don't succeed in a traditional high school. She hopes the law won't keep students like her from having the option of alternative programs such as adult education.

    "Students will drop out with no way of catching up," she said.

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    sole wrote on April 24, 2008 07:33 PM: and how is this going to affect the students under the age of seventeen that have already dropped out? wouldn't that discourage them from an education even more so?

    Yes.... because I'm one of those students...... I am sixteen and will be eligible for my G.E.D in over a week, but wont be taking it because I will now be sent to jail in under a week week for excessive truancies witch Ive had long before this law came in to effect.....



    john wrote on December 06, 2007 05:57 AM: Nathan is right, especially for boys who are nearing their sexual peak, school between 15 and 18 is a waste for many if not most young men who are going to go into construction, manual labor jobs and the military. They would have higher self esteem and crime would lower greatly.


    carmen wrote on November 06, 2007 11:18 AM: can you drop out in middle school? how old and when? would you need to sign papers? or do you have to wait till you're 16 to drop out?


    Sam King wrote on October 02, 2007 12:34 AM: Having worked in the Clark County Adult Education Program since 1994, I have seen the program help many students earn their secondary exit credential, either an Adult Education High School Diploma or a GED, ages 16 (CCSD School Board Policy 16 year old GED) to 82 (diploma). The Adult Education Program also provides that a student in Nevada Adult Education may earn their GED and go on to earn their Adult Education Diploma, an option not available in the comprehensive schools. For many this has been a wonderful option. The new law which raises the mandatory age to remain in a comprehensive school from 17 to 18 or until they have their secondary exit credential does not reduce options. Rather the law supports that a student remain in a comprehnsive school program which includes alternarive programs until they are an adult by law, at least 18 years old or qualify for adult education. This increases options to earn a secondary exit credential. Adult Education is governed by policies now in place to address younger students who would benefit from the Adult Education Program as an option determined case by case with parental involvement and counseling. Again based upon circumstances that make an adult program the best option. When a student enrolls in an Adult Program they will attend classes with adults,many much older than 18 years old. This is not the best placement for all students under 18. The key to any option, including educational options, is that the program is an appropriate placement for the individual student. Appropriate placement will not reduce options. Rather appropriate placement will increase student success.


    D. Kuszmaul wrote on October 01, 2007 06:50 PM: "We're still working through to see how the new law will affect the district," Rheault said. "What I take from the intent (of the law)....." It's getting a little old, passing laws that knowone turly understands the reason. 500 new laws this year.


    DaveR wrote on October 01, 2007 05:00 PM: Kevin, Limbaugh called a man with 2 purple hearts, a distinguished service award, who served in vietnam, was awarded valor award with bronze, A PHONY SOLDIER.
    Limbaugh is a chicken hawk like, bush, like cheyne, like lott..all talk, no service.


    will wrote on October 01, 2007 02:45 PM: The Clark County School District has so many problems to deal with. If the system would "TEACH" the children by the time they reach the adult years, they would understand the benifit of an eductation. However much like most public education institutions,they throw more $$$ with less results. It is the classic rule of insanity, do the same thing you always do and expect different results. Teach children all the same and they will all come out the same. Everyone learns differently and needs a different set of goals when they reach Jr. and Sr. High School. We should offer those who don't expect their schooling to include collage an alternative other than the courses now available.


    Nathan Turner wrote on October 01, 2007 01:38 PM: Public education (K-12) is two years too long. High School students should be allowed to graduate at age 16. First grade and fifth grade should be removed from the K-12 public education. You would see a positive increase in graduation rates and secondary school enrollments.


    Kevin wrote on October 01, 2007 11:51 AM: I find Harry Reids comments about Rush Limbaugh distrubing. A U.S senator lying and falsely accusing an upstanding influential positive memeber of society of calling our troops "phony soldier". Harry Reid is the phony senator who lied, cheated and stole his way into the position he is in. He and his supporters should resign for the good of the nation. I have friends fighting and dying in Irag and Afghanastan so this idiot can spout his socialists rhetoric.


    DaveR wrote on October 01, 2007 09:50 AM: Incentivise a high school diploma!
    Require a mandatory pre-exit interview explaing the average decrease in lifetime income versus a high school diploma, AND;
    make them sign a form (that the legislature in 2008 enacted), that they understand that by dropping out, they are not entitled and are prohibited from receiving any future governement provided assistance. This would include food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, healthcare, baby care.....


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