kassandra wrote on March 20, 2008 01:30 AM: alex rios the one who got shot is my cousin

DJ2 wrote on December 18, 2007 09:37 PM: SSTROOPER,

For you and your children's sake, I hope your parenting methods bring the results you're aiming for. However, when kids hit their teens, the stuff hits the fan and pushing too hard can have just the opposite effect on a kid than it used to have during those more compliant younger years. Beware of inflexibility and overconfidence...

As for teachers, I know many who went into that profession because they wanted to make a difference in the lives of other people. And, they do. The impact a good teacher (and there are many of them) can have on individuals and society is of much more real worth in the total scheme of things than the size of a person's salary.

Best of luck to you and your family. DJ2

SSTROOPER wrote on December 17, 2007 10:11 PM: THANK A TEACHER?

since when did it become a school teacher on the dole of state government to teach children SELF DISIPLINE, MORALS, and RESPECT for those around them???

SHAME SHAME SHAME I SAY!!!

remember the 3 R's? that's what teachers are there for and nothing more. its the parents reponsibility to teach disipline PERIOD! most teachers are weak minded imbiciles who may be book smart on a topic or two and yes they may have a degree, BUT they couldn't make it in the real world themselves. hence the fact that a government job is so alluring to them anyways.

i'm not trying to knock them, but don't even think that a school teacher is the END ALL/BE ALL of morality or of self disipline. i mean c'mon? who spends all those years in college getting a master's degree so they can make 40 to 50 grand a year teaching when they could go a hell of a lot farther and make 6 figures like many of us who have no degree what-so-ever??? you speak as though "TEACHERS" are the chosen ones. GIVE ME A BREAK! Parents are the chosen ones. they alone have the insight and the power.

TEACHERS SHOULD STICK TO THE 3 R's AND LET PARENTS DO WHAT PARENTS WERE MADE TO DO - RAISE CHILDREN!

i won't look down on you if you wish to have your son or daughter grow up to be a product of the "THE STATE", that's your call. But my kids are going to be a hell of a lot better than that. my son will be a "REAL MAN" and not need the assistance of the government. he'll stand on his own two feet.

David wrote on December 16, 2007 09:07 PM: Jane
that is the biggest problem,,,,,, They dont know what church is,, except,, that is the place they can go to and vandalize 6 days a week

Jane wrote on December 16, 2007 06:59 PM: Parents need to be accountable for their children. I wonder if their children exhibit negative behavior when the parent takes them to church each Sunday. Keep your children busy with Girl/Boy Scouts, dancing school, gymnastics, piano lessons, guitar lessons, karate, watch who their freinds are. If they see it, hear it, say it, write it...they'll learn it. The ONLY way to improve your lot in life is through education.Stay in school and thank a teacher.

David wrote on December 16, 2007 06:06 PM: "The 14-year-old witness said a fight had occurred at the bus stop Monday between black and Hispanic teens who he thinks are gang members.

"There are so many gangs out here, I can't even count them all," he said."

These gangs just keep growing, More and more gangs keep poping up. Just like the problem we have with Illegal immigrants and a lot of other things that I can set here for hrs nameing.. The only thing that will even slow it down is we all get togather and see to it that the Law enforcement cracks down on the laws we have rather than over look them. Make gangs Illegal!!!!
If you know some one that participates in a gang or are here in the US Illegaly do something about it that will make them not want to do it again. or make others not want to do it. And,,, not just wate untill one walks up to you and tell you that they are doing something Illegal,,, Make the law go out and look for them which they will not do untill we make them. That is YOUR JOB,,,, DO IT!!!!!! dont just set there crying about the kids that were shot because you havent already done it,,,, STOP IT!!! If you know a gang member or an Illegal turn them in and see to it the LEA does something about it!!!!

David wrote on December 16, 2007 05:36 PM: I also agree with what "confused wrote on December 12, 2007 02:25 PM"

If you outlaw guns,,,, only outlaws will own guns! and you law abiding idiots would have absolutely nothing to defend yourself with!!! WHAT WILL THEY DO THEN!!!

I think it should be a law that YOU MUST be armed if you walk out of your house. I'm sure that their would be a lot of killing for A little while, But I'll guaranty you that most of these murders like this one, the raping, stealing, and robbery will come to a slow grind.

If you knew that every one was carrying a gun, would you try to mugg some one??? robb or rape some one??? open up fire on kids getting off of a school buss???? You would think a lot more before doing the things that might get YOU killed if you knew that every one around you is carrying ALSO.

If you ban guns,, do you think the guys that shot these kids will turn their guns in?? or all gang members etc. AKA, All of the people that you don't want to have guns??

If you think they will you are in bad trouble.

I own 7 guns, I have them for self defense, and hunting, but all of the times I really needed them, I didn't have one because of the laws that we have now.

If I'd been close to that bus stop and it was a law to carry a gun,, you wouldn't have to worry about tracking down the shooter,, he would be lying right there when the police arrived.

PEOPLE KILL, NOT GUNS.

Take their guns and they will use knives,,, ROCKS even

David wrote on December 16, 2007 05:24 PM: SSTROOPER
I agree with you 100% it is the parrents JOB to TEACH their offspring what is right and wrong, how to work and play, to obay and how to treat each other.
If every body would take the time to start with when the child is young it is easy to keep it up but if you let the child to do what it wants and disrespect it is nearly impossible to correct later. I dont care what their skin looks like the disiplin works with every one.
Although their are a few that just will not obay and do what they want instead no mater what you do, if you start out right he will turn out better in the end.
Ill bet any one out there that none of those that you read about doing all of these crimes has had the up bringing SSTROOPER is trying to bestow in his children

SSTROOPER wrote on December 16, 2007 08:00 AM: I have one more point to make and then i'll stop my ranting. it was yet another lesson i learned in the military and probably the most important one yet.

BEFORE YOU POINT OUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S DIRTY LAUNDRY YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU TOOK CARE OF YOUR OWN OTHERWISE YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE AND EVERYBODY SEE'S IT.

I try to apply that principle in everything i do, because I know I have my faults. the state of today's youth is absolutely deplorable! still, i'm compelled to reason that before i can point my finger at other people's kids I have to first make sure I'm taking care of my own.

it is clearly evident that LACK OF DISIPLINE is at heart of these crimes in and around schools. Each time an event like this (school bus shooting or something similar) takes place, regardless of who did what, serves as a reminder for me to stay on top of my game in teaching my kids SELF CONTROL and SELF DISIPLINE.

I make no secret that I'm suspicious of blacks. It was they who taught me to be that way and they taught me well. HOWEVER, to truly affect change it must start from within and when it comes to children as a whole (all races, colors, creeds, etc... whatever), that change must start with my own.

As for civil rights I personally don't view my children as having any. They are there to do what they are told - PERIOD! when they grow up and can support themselves then and only then do they have a say in things.

Personally, i think my way is the better way. lets see if it still works over the next 10 years.

SSTROOPER wrote on December 16, 2007 07:38 AM: I know i got off on a different topic, but i think some of what i've said might be of use to some of the readers out there.

I'm not claiming to be the perfect dad nor do i claim my children to be a couple of angels. kids will be kids and yes kids do stupid things all the time, HOWEVER! there is such a thing called DISIPLINE!

1. my kids may not have the best grades. (my daughter gets A's and B's and my son gets B's and C's.)

2. my kids do get in trouble from time to time, but its hardly ever anything major. things do happen once in a while though.

3. their mother and I are divorced and are living on opposite sides of town.

4. their mother and i don't always see eye to eye on things. hmm, in fact rarely agree on anything - ALERT THE MEDIA!!! "NON CUSTODIAL FATHER DISAGREES WITH HIS EX-WIFE" lol

5. given the child support amount i pay and the fact that i view both my children as being a bit spoiled in that they don't seem to show enough appreciation for what they have; i don't buy them much. in fact, i'm not getting them anything for christmas this year. instead the kids and i are going to build some crafts together.

6. i could go on and on about how my kids aren't perfect.

BUT!!! my kids do exemplify above most others the most valueable trait that builds strong adults and the greatest gift i can give to them -

SELF DISIPLINE and SELF CONTROL

that investment into my children will ensure a life of success regardless of what they endeavor to become.

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