SB wrote on December 31, 2007 11:05 AM: And what planet are you from WIZEGUY: Im guessing the land of ignorance, or maybe under a rock! Funny how ignorant people make comments and and claims that have no true facts or merit. Hmmm just take a look at the people that showed up to the 40/40 grand opening (spyonvegas.com). A-list celebrities, athletes, media personalities, executives, politicians, movie stars, rappers, entertainers. All black people and white people alike. didnt see a line of "garbage" as you put it waiting to get in. They wouldnt be able to afford anyway.

As to your comment about Caesars & PURE, which clearly is an assumption you made up... I'll tell you that Caesars is pretty damn fine and pleased with their investment in putting PURE inside their property. Lets see, PURE Management Group pays top dollar in rent to lacate their club in Caesars, Caesars gets patrons into their Casino that wouldnt normally be there, due to the fact that the reason they are their is because of PURE (spending money in resteraunts, bars and gambling) Not only that but seeing how well PURE was doing for them caesars saw fit to place a brand new casino right outside the PURE intrance, in the Pussy Cat Dolls Casino.

Hey wizeguy, why dont you check out the intrance into PURE on a Sarurday night, the line deffanetly is full of eyecandy that no man would call garbage, and the pussycat dolls casino is packed and rockin with a new demographic of gamers putting money into Caesars pocket. Please get with the times man! this new generation/demographic is young, has more money than any other, spends on more than just blackjack & slots. These casinos are now realizing this and it shows in with these new investments. Its called smart business and good marketing$$$$$$$$$$

wizeguy wrote on December 29, 2007 02:45 AM: SB below writes: "There IS a large segment of "Black people" and the "hiphop" crowd who make large $ spend large $ and act with class, sophistication & dignity. There will be no lowlifes & gun toting thugs lining up @ any of these venues. YOU should be happy these joints are opening up & pushing out the low level clubs that attract bad elements."

What planet you from, SB? SOPHISTICATION & DIGNITY and the 21-35 WIGGER HIP HOP CROWD don't go together, sorry. Maybe the joint itself is high-end and mega-upscale, but believe me, look at the line of garbage trying to get in. They are a friggin' joke!!! PURE is the worst example of this. And Caesars is just now beginning to realize they made a big mistake which I could've told them years ago when they were looking at doing a huge club. It's all about selling to masses, not the classes, and there's no such thing as exclusivity and, in doing so, you will eventually frighten the classes - the people with real money, sophistication and dignity, not these BS wannabes wearing striped shirts and jeans.
You will never see the kind of crowd that dressed and acted with class and style Vegas has sold out of a long time ago as long as these venues market to this lost, cultureless, clueless, loser generation. What Vegas needs is a venue that attracts what it used to attract decades ago. If only someone had the balls to do it and stop following the masses of the megaclubs that do nothing but cater to trash.

Where can we find club operators like Steve Rubell who knew how to run a club? Now, they let in every and anyone into these places!

Marco wrote on December 28, 2007 05:08 PM: Typical of the short-term get-rich-quick Vegas mentality, these casinos are blind to long-term value and will wonder why the real high rollers with real class will stop patronizing their resort when they see the hip hop lowlifes and punks piling up to get into places like 40/40.

Marco the Great wrote on December 28, 2007 05:02 PM: Now, with all the fresh and re-worked upscale glitz and glamour, let's see if the patrons can finally live up to these venues' image by fittingly turning away the sloppy-dressed, slovenly thugs and low-life punks that have infiltrated our adult playground and dwell in ALL the other so-called upscale clubs in Vegas. I won't hold my breath, though.

SB wrote on December 28, 2007 03:16 PM: You make no sense Scott... If you fully read my post you would understand...Actually you being a Bank VP with what I would assume to be a very comfortable income and living standard would be considerd a target for this type of high end nightclub/sports bar experiance. Regardless of your age. Not the lowlifes, thugs, gangsters and wannabe's and those wishing to party and club on the cheap. Im sure you scott are not a wannabe due to the fact that your job and success affords YOU that higher standard of living.

This type of nightclub experiance would be ideal for you. $300-$500 for a table at an upscale nightclub like 40/40 etc.. for your self and 4 to 6 others. Possible to entertain clients, your wife's birthday, or your anaversary. Being around celebrities and athletes (possibly sitting next to or with a Tom Brady or Derek Jetter etc..), beautiful people and with a higher income and taste such as yourself. Alos a good networking opprotunity and most importantly no haslte of a line, no worry about some thugs "setting stuff off" , a comfortable and sophisticated atmosphere.

Hell Scott, you could even get in there to impress some young ladies.... just dont let the wife know

Mark$ wrote on December 28, 2007 02:56 PM: As the American economy heads for the iceberg of massive BushCheney era financial malfeasance and the fraud of our national phoney "prosperity" that the corrupt corporate media in this country have kept a huge secret from the lemmings known as "the American public", no champagne on the SS Vegas Titanic is expensive enough ..

dt wrote on December 28, 2007 02:12 PM: It is too loud and too expensive in these places. I used to like going to them but not being able to move or hear, and paying a lot of money to do that ...... I have other things to do with my time. I wonder how people are going to be able to afford these clubs now that the home equity money has dried up.

David wrote on December 28, 2007 01:25 PM: Perhaps a good source of tax revenue. If these 'high enders' can afford the outrageous prices for admission and drink, can they not afford to pay an additional 'luxury tax' collected by the state to help finance our incompetant government?

Greco770 wrote on December 28, 2007 12:51 PM: Scott, the reason why those clubs are so expensive to go to, lays on the fact thay they are firstly, far more expensive to built, compared to the older clubs, and secondly, since they lease the space from the hotel, the rents have been gradually increasing. As far as the bottle service, a bottle of Vodka devided between six people in one of those clubs comes up to $60.00 to $75.00 per person, which agreed ,I would not pay, but this is where this town is heading to. Ten or so years ago, the clubs were a place that the casinos did not even consider as a revenue source, however, nowdays they are actually viewing the clubs as a magnet for gaming.

Scott wrote on December 28, 2007 11:23 AM: SB - Are you saying a bank Vice-President like me doesn't belong in these clubs? Last time I checked, nightclubs are mostly filled with 21 - 35 year olds, mostly single. How many millionaires can there be?

The night club "experience" is the same as it was 20 years ago - people watching and meeting each other.

The prices have gotten ridiculous because greedy corporations that have taken over the business recently and ruined them with the "bottle service" concept. (pay for a bottle or don't sit down)

I think they'll run out of millionaires soon. (or stupid people acting like they are)

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