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PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS: DEBATE RIGHT ON TARGET

Forum to focus on minority issues as race enters the race



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If Nevada's last Democratic presidential debate was a Vegas boxing match, tonight's is an Old West duel.

Three candidates remain in serious contention. Two have each won a state. Their goal: Shoot to kill.

"Nevada is at the center of the storm right now," said national political expert Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. "This is one of those crapshoot races that could go in any direction."

Sabato is the pundit known for his "Crystal Ball," what he calls his overwhelmingly accurate predictions of political races. Right now, he's hesitant to make any.


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  • Meanwhile, it happens that the theme of tonight's debate, in the works for more than a year, is minority issues -- just as one of the most emotional issues in politics has been raised in recent days: race.

    "Black and brown" issues headline the debate tonight at the Cashman Center in Las Vegas, sponsored by local and national black and Hispanic groups on Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday.

    It is the first Democratic debate since the New Hampshire primary one week ago was won by Sen. Hillary Clinton, creating a tie between her and the Iowa winner, Sen. Barack Obama. Former Sen. John Edwards remains in contention.

    The debate moderator is NBC's Brian Williams, joined by the network's Tim Russert and Natalie Morales of the "Today" show.

    The debate's executive producer, Phil Alongi, called the three "our A team" and said, "If ever there was a question about how important Nevada is to the future of the country, tomorrow will show it."

    But in a surprise development, Rep. Dennis Kucinich was on his way to winning a legal challenge to NBC's decision to exclude him from the debate, making it possible a field of four will appear. The far-left pacifist isn't seen as having a chance at the nomination.

    Whether there are three or four onstage, tonight stands to be a much more focused affair than a Democratic debate in Las Vegas two months ago, which featured seven candidates and often had a round-robin feel. Three have since dropped out of the running.

    Clinton recently ignited controversy with a comment that seemed to diminish King, saying it took a president, Lyndon Johnson, to make King's dream a reality. In a television interview Sunday, she insisted it was Obama's campaign that was trying to engage in race-baiting.

    Obama, speaking to reporters at a Las Vegas church later Sunday said he was "baffled" that the Clinton campaign would "suggest that we're injecting race as a consequence of a statement she made that we haven't commented on."

    That's not the only hot button Clinton has pushed in recent days, Sabato noted, as she has attacked Obama's record on abortion and the war in Iraq.

    "I think the dynamic now is clear," Sabato said. "The Clinton campaign has made the decision, which is not unusual for campaigns in a tough race, that they are going negative. They are mining Obama's record for everything it's worth and they're going at him hard."

    Edwards, for his part, has sided with Obama, telling South Carolinians on Sunday, "As someone who grew up in the segregated South, I feel an enormous amount of pride when I see the success that Senator Barack Obama is having in this campaign."

    In an interview Monday, Edwards, whose debate performances have gotten solid reviews, said he was looking forward to the debate.

    "It's an opportunity for people to actually hear and see what I have to say," he said. "There will be a lot of people who have never heard it. Whenever people have a chance to hear what I have to say, I do well."

    Edwards said he refuses to be written off. "The national media has wanted this to be a two-person race for a year now," he said. "My job is to get heard through that noise."

    And he suggested that the other two candidates are taking tricks from his playbook: "When I hear them now, they sound a lot like what I say," Edwards said. "Standing up to special interests -- I read that Senator Obama is talking about greed and corruption in Washington. I've always been talking about that."

    Obama throughout his campaign has expressed his belief that Washington lobbyists have too much influence, and he does not take donations from them. Since his win in Iowa, where Edwards came in second, Obama has taken on a more populist tone. In recent appearances, he often railed against "fat cats," for example.

    Sabato said he wouldn't bet on it, but Edwards could have a breakout moment in the debate. "He does well in debates, and he stayed in for a reason," Sabato said. "He believes he might be able to score an upset in Nevada or South Carolina and get back in the race. It's also possible that people will look at Clinton and Obama squabbling and decide to vote for Edwards to send a message, though I wouldn't say it's likely."

    As for Obama, assuming Clinton goes after him, which Sabato called "inevitable," the question will be how he responds. "Is Obama going to try to engage in the same tactics, or try to be above it all?" he said. "If he acts above it all, that suggests a great confidence in Nevada that may or may not be warranted. He was very confident going into New Hampshire."

    The debate is co-sponsored by the 100 Black Men of America, the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, the Nevada African American Democratic Leadership Council, the IMPACTO political action arm of the Las Vegas Latin Chamber of Commerce and the College of Southern Nevada.

    At a news conference Monday, Luis Valera of IMPACTO said the debate sponsors represented "more than just the partnership of four organizations, really the coming together of two communities."

    Michael Barrera, president of the Hispanic Chamber, said the candidates are facing a diverse electorate for the first time.

    "The Nevada caucuses, the test in the West, will be the first test of candidates in the Western states and a key test of the Hispanic vote," he said.

    Candidates will face questions about education, health care and immigration, Barrera said.

    "People are trying to use (immigration) as a wedge issue in our country. People are trying to use it as a wedge between African Americans and Hispanics, and that's not right," he said.

    Clark County Commissioner Lawrence Weekly, a founding member of the Nevada African American group, said the candidates, and the country, are going to see that Las Vegas has something to say besides, "Place your bets."

    "We want the world to know that we're not a tourist destination, we're a final destination," he said. "And we're going to speak, and we're going to speak very clearly, and we're going to speak very loudly."

    Contact reporter Molly Ball at mball@reviewjournal.com or (702) 387-2919.



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    stanjz wrote on January 16, 2008 04:01 PM: History has been overtly generous to the Clintons in what it perceives they have done for the poor.
    Federal Minimum Wage Bush one-April 1991 $4.25
    Clinton-October 1996 $4.75 Clinton-September 1997 $5.15 You don't close the gap between the rich and poor with a .90 /hr raise over 8 years!!!
    “The income gap actually grew more during the Democratic Clinton administration than it has during the Bush administration. According to U.S. Census data, the share of income for the wealthiest 5 percent rose from 18.6 percent in 1992 to 22.1 percent in 2000. That’s a jump of almost 19 percent.”
    Furthermore, capital gains tax was only 20 percent during the Clinton Presidency. That means the super rich only paid 20 percent on their income from the stock market. Actual wage earners would pay up to 38 percent. Most CEO get paid through stock so they only pay 15% tax now and 20 % back then. The Clinton’s never indexed the minimum wage to inflation like Barack Obama wants to, so the poor immediately saw inflation eat away at their small gains.


    gracia figueroa wrote on January 16, 2008 09:22 AM: I'm a Democrat but will never vote for Hillary. Experience means little in the face of an utter lack of character ethic.


    John O'Neill wrote on January 16, 2008 12:31 AM: Marshall, Eli,

    YOU ARE STUPID!
    YOU ARE DUMB!
    YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

    REAL Americans call an idiot an idiot.
    REAL Americans let you know if you are stupid.

    REAL Americans know that you two are NOT real Americans!


    Dina Lowell wrote on January 15, 2008 11:16 PM: Hillary's got my vote. She did a GREAT job. I thought she did the best at laying out her economic plan, to stop the foreclosures and get rid of the current bankruptcy laws. She showed a true command of all the issues. Way to go, Hillary!!!


    Brian Keller wrote on January 15, 2008 11:13 PM: Hillary Clinton did a GREAT job in the debate. She was the clear winner in my opinion. I thought it was great that she called Bush's Energy policy "pathetic" and that he's in Saudia Arabia "begging them to lower the price of oil". She pointed out that Obama voted FOR Bush's energy policy which gave the Oil Companies $13 billion dollars in tax cuts!!! How Stupid.

    Then she pointed out that Edwards voted in favor of keeping Yucca Mtn TWICE!!!

    Hillary has always voted against it.

    She proved tonight that she is READY to lead.


    Danielle Vyas wrote on January 15, 2008 10:51 PM: Truth Matters you are so on point.

    If we as a Nation declare we are participants and not spectators maybe some real change, no evolution will occur.

    Research the Candidates thoroughly, our Nation depends upon it!

    Voting records, money trails and campaign advisers is always a good place to start.

    I am not wasting my vote, I'm going with the real deal!

    Dennis Kucinich!
    dennis4president.com

    None but ourselves can free our Mind!


    Elizabeth wrote on January 15, 2008 10:06 PM: Truthmatters:

    Kucinich is a good guy, but he is not a viable presidential candidate.

    Kudos to him for asking Iowans to caucus for Obama! Hopefully he will do the same thing on Saturday here.

    Obama won the debate tonight big time!

    Mrs. Clinton was irritating to listen to, although the pundits on MSNBC were echoing Karl Rove's editorials saying that she was the winner. Give me a break.

    Barack Obama you just won over Nevada!!


    truthmatters wrote on January 15, 2008 10:02 PM: A vote for anyone other than Dennis Kucinich, is a vote for the corporate powers destroying our democracy! Obama and Clinton have the financial backing of the insurance industry responsible for our healthcare crisis! John Edward's hedge fund Fortress in heavily invested in Humana, the insurance company featured in "Sicko."

    Dennis Kucinich's healthcare plan will fund itself by kicking out the sick-profiteering insurance companies. It will cost them billions in lost revenue, so of course they're undermining the Kucinich campaign.

    GE, the parent company of NBC has military contracts that would suffer from Kucinich's plan for the immediate withdrawal from Iraq and a policy of peace not war.

    Follow the money trail, then vote with your intellect and conscience. Dennis Kucinich is the clear choice for "We the People"

    http://opensecrets.org/




    Marshall Elliot wrote on January 15, 2008 10:00 PM: Wow. Looking at every poll across the net, it's incredible how MSNBC is spinning this debate in Clinton's favor.

    Barack Obama not only won the debate handily; but he's winning every opinion poll that every network, every station, every blog, every newspaper, and every forum has put up tonight.

    Me thinks Chris Matthews has flipped his lid.


    Eli wrote on January 15, 2008 09:48 PM: If i had to rate the debate in terms of top to bottom.
    Obama-Edwards-Clinton. I agree, with Mel, Obama was really amazing tonight. I will caucus for Obama.


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