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STATE SPENDING: Agencies told to plan cuts

Proposed budget for 2009 Legislature being prepared

CARSON CITY -- If state officials thought this year's budget cuts hurt, they got an inkling Wednesday they ain't seen nothing yet.

Gov. Jim Gibbons told heads of state agencies to come up with ways to cut as much as 14 percent from anticipated budget levels for 2009-2011, cuts that officials said might make layoffs and program shutdowns unavoidable.


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  • Budget Director Andrew Clinger said agencies will have until July 1 to craft budgets for the state's upcoming two-year spending plan using $600 million a year less than they had expected to receive.

    Once the bare-bones budget is assembled, Gibbons and lawmakers can begin to build on that, adding back any projected tax revenue growth to pay for more school students, Medicaid recipients or inmates, Clinger said.

    The new budget will begin July 1, 2009, a little more than 13 months from now.

    Clinger said he expects the state will ultimately have about $7 billion to spend on the next budget, depending on revenue projections set by the Economic Forum on Dec. 1. That's up from about $6.8 billion originally approved for the current budget, or a 3 percent increase.

    State spending, however, normally increases 15 percent to 20 percent from one budget cycle to the next to keep pace with demands for services in a rapidly growing state. Growth continues, but the planning is needed in case the revenue isn't there to pay for expanded services.

    Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, D-Las Vegas, said budget cuts of the size proposed by Gibbons are simply impossible to implement.

    "If we were to cut across the board 14 percent then medication clinics for the mentally ill would close," she said. "School districts would probably have to reduce teacher pay and increase class sizes or eliminate arts or sports."

    Buckley asked Gibbons what alternatives he was considering to fill the budget gap at a briefing last week, but "didn't get a good answer," she said.

    The Assembly speaker said she has met with the Nevada State Teachers Association and gaming industry representatives to see whether an agreement can be reached on new tax revenues to avoid such cuts. This would be in exchange for teachers abandoning a proposed gaming tax increase ballot measure, she said.

    An advisory question could be put on the ballot to get around the governor's no-new-taxes pledge.

    "The situation is dire," Buckley said. "A significant portion of our budget goes to education, health care and prisons. These are not areas we can cut in a fast-growing state."

    In a memo sent late Wednesday to Nevada public school leaders, state Superintendent of Schools Keith Rheault said the targeted amount for K-12 reductions is $188.7 million each year of the biennium.

    "It would equal a reduction of $434.89 for each of the 433,885 students currently enrolled in Nevada this school year," Rheault said.

    Clark County School District Superintendent Walt Rulffes said such reductions in future budgets would "wreak havoc" on local schools, forcing the kind of extreme measures that so far have been avoided.

    "We might have to contemplate asking the Legislature to reduce the school year," Rulffes said. "That would reduce our costs for transportation, food services, custodial services and salary. With cuts of this magnitude, there's no easy answer."

    Increasing class sizes is the convenient way to save millions of dollars, but it's not something Rulffes wants to do. Local public school classes are already considered too large, Rulffes said. And increasing class sizes won't produce higher student achievement.

    As the state's financial situation worsens, Rulffes said he's thought about going to principals and asking them to present teachers with a question: Would they rather forgo their annual cost of living increases or deal with increased class sizes?

    "In the context of these kinds of cuts, those are the questions we're going to have to ask," Rulffes said. "We're already a district struggling with conditions that we have no control over."

    Ben Kieckhefer, spokesman for Gibbons, said the smaller budgets will provide "what if" scenarios to use in preparing a final budget for the next biennium.

    "What we receive back is not necessarily what we are going to base our budget around," he said. "But it is a guideline we can use. ... We have to have them on the table to know what the dollar figures are."

    Clinger said Gibbons and lawmakers may not choose to impose the 14 percent cuts across the board. But the information provided by agencies will be used to weigh which programs should be saved, which may receive some of the anticipated increased revenue and which should get the ax.

    There were no numbers Wednesday on what such cuts could mean for programs or state employment levels. But the target numbers will be daunting for every agency and program.

    The Department of Health and Human Services, which includes Medicaid, must cut $151 million a year from anticipated budget levels.

    The Department of Corrections will have to slice nearly $42 million a year.

    The Nevada System of Higher Education will have to reduce spending by nearly $97 million a year.

    University system Executive Vice Chancellor Dan Klaich said the cuts were "breathtaking in their amount." They "signaled a much deeper and more permanent cut in all services in the State of Nevada, including education," he said.

    The cuts would directly affect the higher education system's ability to deliver education to students, he said. "I can't imagine making cuts of this size without making significant cuts in staff, programs and potentially campuses," he said.

    The higher education system would have only 45 days to implement cuts in staffing for the 2009-10 fiscal year. Faculty must be given notice one year in advance if their contract won't be renewed, according to Klaich.

    Clinger said the governor's no-new-taxes pledge makes any budget decision a zero-sum game. If money is added to pay for or expand one program, it will have to be taken from someplace else.

    The 4.5 percent cuts implemented by Gibbons for the current budget trimmed a small amount off of virtually all programs, Clinger said. This time around, the reductions will more likely eliminate entire programs in some cases, he said.

    "I think that is what you are going to be down to in a scenario like this," Clinger said.

    Review-Journal writers Lawrence Mower and Lisa Kim Bach, and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    Mr. Jason wrote on May 16, 2008 04:55 PM: I am very discouraged about the budget situation, but what is even more discouraging is how we citizens bicker and fight with each other instead of demanding better government. Whether you are a conservative, moderate, or liberal who works for the private or public sector is irrelevant. What is important is that we demand responsible governance in the face of financial crisis. I must admit that I don't believe drastic cuts in spending without raising any taxes is responsible. Nobody WANTS to pay taxes, but taxes are necessary for our society to function. I may not like lima beans, but if eating them means better educational systems (at public and university levels), better social supports, medicaid for the elderly and disabled, mental health facilities, etc., etc., etc., then give me a heaping serving!


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    Nick wrote on May 15, 2008 11:29 PM: But Joe - how much did their work load increase? Maybe Clark County did pay its employees 7 percent more annually. But didn't Clark County grow by 10% in each of those years? And if that's the case, shouldn't county government at least grow proportionately to provide the services to the expanding population?

    Growth *is* the problem. It doesn't pay for itself.


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    Sam King wrote on May 15, 2008 07:55 PM: Answer to "was I attempting to say New/ Higher Taxes when I wrote 'Bold Leadership' " would be that I do not particularly want higher or more tax liability, however I support more stable taxes than we presently have in Nevada. No one wants more tax liability. Unfortunately, as another wrote, growth has not paid for growth. While gaming is our main industry and could be able to pay more in taxes, gaming should not be the only target. The tax structure in Nevada is not sufficient for state needs. We need tax reform. I would say the closest we came to tax reform was in 2003 and then most options were shut out. There are industries in Nevada that could weather a higher tax when balanced with their profits and benefits for doing business in Nevada -- mining, casinos and corporations should be able to pay more in taxes without hurting their bottom line. A corporate income tax would be something to look at, although I absolutely do not favor California style income taxes. The issue of looking only at a room tax to bail us out is not something that I see as a long range soultion. We in Nevada tend to rely on the old solution to export tax liability which is unstable and causes a crisis when there is an economic problem such as we now are experiencing nationwide. So my final answer is that we need a more balanced stable tax base in Nevada--which is new and higher than those most able to now pay.


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    Growth is the Problem- wrote on May 15, 2008 06:52 PM: It appears that the greater the Nevada population growth the worse the problem (not just dollars but quality of life). Growth is NOT paying for growth. The blame squarely lies with the casinos bringing in minimium to low wage workers and their extended families (just wait until all these new places come on line). That said, let the casinos pay for this problem via a double in the gaming taxes. The teacher's initiative has them scared and talking abount a no impact (to them) increase to room taxes. DON'T fall for it. Insist on a double to the gaming taxes


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    joe wrote on May 15, 2008 06:34 PM: From Feb 10, 2004 LVRJ - 'Clark County workers received an average annual pay increase of 7 percent between 1997 and 2002. Last year county administrators negotiated a 5.75 percent increase and considered it a victory.'

    I don't remember the last time I got more than a 4% raise at my private industry job. Unlike state employees it is very easy for me to get fired. My retirement benefits are not guaranteed as they are tied to whether my 401K does well or not. Government is full of overpaid middle and upper management - that's where the serious cutting needs to be done.


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    State Employee too wrote on May 15, 2008 05:59 PM: Agree with State Employee. I got myself a state job - looking forward to all those "great benefits" - what a bunch of bs. Try working a 9 to 11 hour day with two 15 min breaks (yes - lunch is one hour unpaid - unlike most of the casinos). Bringing work home with you to make deadlines, etc. Yes, vacation and sick time can be generous if you don't add up all the additional unpaid time you are on the job versus similar positions in the private sector. Fortunteutly, the work I do is interesting and I will continue - but I am sick and tired of these "citizen observers" who have never walked a single block in a civil servant's shoe's. And, they are the first to complain about the lack of law enforcement, stop signs, long lines, etc. They are the first to complain about their high taxes - let them complain when the state has no choice but to implement an income tax as the casinos (Mr. Wynn and Sheldon) will fight scaring us with layoffs, construction elimination and all the rest. Let them send all the "illegal" mexicans back (Filipinos, Swedes, Italians, too) and watch the tax base shrink further. Close the schools and we'd save millions (billions?) and let the kiddies run wild in the streets. Furthermore, why are so many Nevadians in prision - most of them are innocent and should be released! Whay are we spending $300K a year on a Governor's Mansion that he does not even live in? (Opps, I forgot - Jim is a state employee - one of the few THAT IS overpaid.)


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    To State Employee- wrote on May 15, 2008 05:52 PM: As a beverage server at a local's casino, I may be brain dead, but I sport a pair of assets just below my head that makes me more money, tax free, then you cam only dream of. Obviously, you must be a male employee or and ugly female. Any good looking gal in this town would be foolish to work for the State.


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    State Employee wrote on May 15, 2008 05:22 PM: I can tell you our salaries are a quite a bit less than the private sector, especially the brain dead drones that work in the casinos with barely a high school education.


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    Sickofthis wrote on May 15, 2008 04:52 PM: Hey Lizdavis, it looks like you could use a little help with "facts." First, the Gov's last name is GIBBONS, not Gibson. Second, when you say government employees are well paid and have amazing benefits, why don't you compare our real salaries to the salaries of gaming employees and other private industry people who make substantially more. What you find amazing about our benefits I cannot imagine.


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    Nick wrote on May 15, 2008 04:37 PM: Unfortunately, the masses aren't screaming with pitchforks — and will get the Nevada they deserve accordingly.

    No mass transit, no upgraded roads, a mediocre education system, negligible mental health care and a lot of people in crammed prisons.

    Wait, that's California.

    Hope you're happy you brought your problems with you, folks.


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