sstrooper wrote on June 21, 2008 01:58 PM: to JESS

to answer your question "Why is it the job of the General Contractor to train these people?"

each construction site has different hazards that are specific to the individual site. the union apprenticeships/training programs do teach safety standards as it applies to their specific crafts in a general sense, but there is no way any union apprenticeship/training program can train/lecture workers in site specific safety hazards. the unions do not oversee safety on a daily basis on these sites. minimum safe working conditions are part of the union's master/labor agreement that the contractor signs before any union personell are ever dispatched to the job in the first place.

each union craft has its own dispatch hall which proffessional labor, in their respective crafts, is dispatched to the various jobs here in town. every jobsite is different.

city center happens to be the biggest job in town with more workers than any other project. though Perini is the general contractor for that particular site, there are dozens of sub-contractors working under Perini on the site as well. Perini's contract with its subcontractors is such that the subcontractors must adopt the safety standards of the general contractor - Perini.

yes, it is the General Contractor's responsibility to coordinate the work and the site specific safety training needed for safe work on their specific sites, because the General Contractor is responsible for the entire site and everything that happens on it til project completion and custody of the property is turned over to the developer and/or property owner.

the responsibility of the General Contractor, regardless of project, is the same whether its a union job or not. the union simply represents its contituents where non-union persons have no representation at all.

sstrooper wrote on June 21, 2008 01:31 PM: to BROTHER

hey man, its good that you donated a bill to our good brother dustin, but you don't have to shove it down everyone's throat. a lot of people chipped in a hell of a lot more (myself included). if you are a journeyman i'd be ashamed if i were you for only giving that amount, because it really isn't much and hardly merits bragging to the world about. sure as hell i couldn't look his family in the face and actually be proud of such a miniscule donation.

to all the people that supposedly "know it all" when it comes to "OILING CRANES" i haven't seen anything on here that even closely resembles the opinion of a real crane oiler or operator. yeah, what we do is very dangerous. its not for everybody. all too often "oilers" are taken for granted by what the masses see on a day to day basis. my question for all those who think they know what an "oiler" really does for a living is this - tell me about what happens during MOVE IN/MOVE OUT when nobody else is even on the job most of the time? dustin wasn't just a wax on/wax off oiler. he was a real truck crane rental oiler and will be deeply missed because there aren't a hell of a lot of people that can do what he did for a living. he was a highly skilled professional in short supply. LABORERS and CARPENTERS come a dime a dozen. if they make a mistake they can go back and fix it. Dustin like the rest of crane guys know we only get one chance to get it right or people die and/or property gets destroyed.

Jess wrote on June 18, 2008 05:44 PM: Why is it the job of the General Contractor to train these people? I thought unions were the ones doing the training!

Jake Local525 wrote on June 14, 2008 10:06 AM: I think everybody is missing the point. It makes no differnce what trade you are, accidents happen and it is tragic when they do no matter what craft you are.

john wrote on June 08, 2008 01:29 PM: LOCAL 1977 THATS RIGHT HOW MANY CARPENTERS DO YOU SEE GET INJURED? THANKS TO OUR EXTENSIVE TRAINING AND OUR KNOWLEDGE WERE BUILDING THE FUTURE

Go Away Fred !!! wrote on June 04, 2008 07:20 PM: We have enough troubles in our Unions without having Fred Farzetta trying to help out. This guy is personally responsible for more lost jobs and layoffs than the last recession. Go away Fred.... We don't need you stirring the pot for us !!!

shite wrote on June 03, 2008 09:08 PM: damn y'all...to be honest with y'all union just want to make some noise to get more fees..freaking union. There a long range camera looking at city center daily..that's how they proof all last 3 deaths are employee fault not MGM. Same with this. I felt bad for those people but common..60 bucks an hour for labor job..those who go to university only got pay 15 to 25 bucks an hour. WHY? LABOR job is dangerous and office job is not. PERIOD. Take that extra 30 bucks of ours and buy insurance man.

BROTHER wrote on June 03, 2008 08:47 PM: Local 525 Member,

"Everything"
you need to know, to be a...
UNION PLUMBER IS;

LEFT HOT....RIGHT COLD

PS. NEVER RAN AN ELEVATOR(not that there's anything wrong with that!)

SUPPORT ALL BROTHERS!

CONTRIBUTE to:
DUSTIN TARTER Family
LOCAL 12

jackson wrote on June 03, 2008 08:46 PM: Are these safety problems due to Spanish/English problems with so many workers who are not fluent in both languages?

Is this due to illegal immigration, or ignorance of construction workers who do not bother to learn English?!

At my work, Spanish is the dominant language...did I move to Mexico?! I THOUGHT that Nevada was still in the United States...maybe the border just changed and no one knew.

Larry wrote on June 03, 2008 08:01 PM: The electrical workers must be the best paid on the site, based on how well they are eating. Unlike the iron workers, who need to be in shape, I have never seen so many 400 pound plus electrical workers.

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