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Two lawmakers file bills targeting illegal immigrants

Pair acknowledge little hope for measures

At least two Nevada legislators are pursuing bills on illegal immigration for the 2009 legislative session, even though similar bills didn't get very far last time.

Assemblyman Bob Beers, R-Henderson, has requested a bill to punish employers who knowingly hire undocumented immigrants, and Assemblyman Ty Cobb, R-Reno, has asked for a bill that would prohibit illegal immigrants from receiving most kinds of state assistance and from getting Nevada driver's licenses.


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  • Cobb's bill would be similar to one he introduced in 2007 that would have prohibited people living in the United States illegally from receiving welfare and unemployment compensation.

    He acknowledged that illegal immigrants are already prohibited by law from receiving these benefits, but said such laws are not enforced.

    "We want to make it clear these new regulations will be enforced," Cobb said.

    Beers said his bill will be based on Oklahoma legislation and would penalize employers who "circumvent the law" by knowingly hiring undocumented workers.

    He's not optimistic about the bill's future.

    "I don't expect this one to go anywhere, either," Beers said. "But if, as a representative, I see laws being flagrantly broken ... and do nothing about it, I'm being a hypocrite and violating my oath of office."

    Cobb said he will continue working toward such "common sense" legislation even if unsuccessful.

    "We've got to keep bringing this issue to the forefront so Nevada voters have a real understanding of who their representatives are," Cobb said.

    But the legislator anticipates "very active support" from Republicans for his bill.

    "Hopefully we'll bring on a few Democrats as well," Cobb said.

    He said he and Beers are not working together on the bills.

    Both men were first elected to the Assembly in 2006 and are up for re-election this year.

    They both also were recently rated among the three most conservative members of the Assembly, along with Assemblyman James Settelmeyer, R-Gardnerville, in an analysis by conservative political analyst Chuck Muth.

    Cobb said that during his last campaign he learned that illegal immigration was the "number one issue" among his constituents.

    He and Beers blamed Democrats in the Legislature for blocking bills related to illegal immigration.

    "We have a lot of people in politics who are going to be screaming about discrimination when this bill comes up," Beers said. "For some reason, obeying the law is now discrimination."

    Cobb's bill also would prohibit non-U.S. citizens from voting, which they are already prohibited from doing.

    Both he and Beers said they believe some undocumented immigrants have somehow circumvented that prohibition and have been voting illegally.

    "We need to make it very clear that we in Nevada allow the vote only for those who are U.S. citizens," Cobb said.

    Fernando Romero, president of Hispanics in Politics, disputed the notion that ineligible people have been voting in Nevada.

    "It's hard enough to get (eligible) people to vote," he said.

    Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said he doesn't believe voting by illegal immigrants is a "big problem" in Clark County.

    "My personal opinion is, if you were here illegally, why would you want to draw attention to yourself by illegally voting?" he said.

    Lomax said while there's no way to know for sure how many ineligible voters are actually casting votes, his office does run driver's license or Social Security numbers provided on voter registration forms through Department of Motor Vehicles or Social Security administration databases to make sure the numbers match the names and birth dates provided.

    Assembly Majority Leader John Oceguera, D-Las Vegas, said the problem with Cobb's and Beers' bill requests is they address issues for which legislation is already in place.

    "Certainly we need to look at the enforcement end of it, but it's up to the judicial and executive branches to enforce, prosecute and convict," Oceguera said.

    He noted that the Legislature in 2007 adopted a bill to allow the Nevada Tax Commission to levy an undetermined fine on companies that hire illegal workers.

    But Cobb said the bill was a "watered-down" version of its original, and he noted it allows fines to be levied only after the U.S. Attorney General's office has made a final determination that the company hired illegal immigrants. The law is unenforceable as written, he said.

    Romero believes all such immigration-related legislation should be handled at the federal level.

    "I think the matters will be addressed nationally in the next Congress," he said.

    Congress in 2007 considered the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, but the bill failed.

    Since then, Beers said, the immigration issue "has become heartburn rather than being a forefrontal migraine."

    "It's just moved down into the gut," he said.

    As of July 4, 165 measures had been requested for drafting for Nevada's 2009 legislative session. The list is being updated on a weekly basis.

    The list can often be vague, since there is a single descriptive line for each measure proposed for drafting. But it does give a hint of what lawmakers want to address when they get together seven months from now.

    Both Beers' and Cobb's requests, for example, are described thusly: "Makes various changes concerning foreign nationals."

    Cobb's bill also would create penalties for exploiting illegal immigrants. He said people sometimes threaten to turn illegal immigrants over to immigration authorities or the police if they refuse to work for less than the minimum wage.

    The bill also would prohibit non-U.S. citizens from receiving the Millennium Scholarship, he said.

    A 2007 bill that would have denied the scholarship and loans to illegal immigrants attending state schools and universities failed.

    Another 2007 bill that would have made English the official of language of Nevada also was unsuccessful.

    Contact reporter Lynnette Curtis at lcurtis@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0285.

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    jtl wrote on August 12, 2008 11:00 PM: Wow! People like you is precisely the type of ignorant folks these two legislators want. Don't you worry; they will most likely not get reelected.


    South Decatur wrote on July 27, 2008 08:38 PM: Dear Mr. Cobb and Mr. Beers,
    Thank you for trying. I have written to Mr. Beers before and he answered me
    (about these same issues). I have firsthand knowledge illegal aliens have
    Nevada drivers licenses. I won't go into it but it is not right. Many of
    you need to wake up because it is costing you. Isabel needs to "chill."
    The graduation rate for children classified as "Latino" is terrible.
    Teachers having to teach English in
    Kindergarten is only taking away from
    others learning what they should be learning. MR. BOOTH, my husband is in
    construction and works for one of the few companies (I think) who do not allow their workers to speak any other
    language on the job but English! They
    feel it unprofessional. Take heart in
    small accomplishments. To "Smarterthanthat," hey, you would be
    surprised. Like I said, I have firsthand proof illegals have drivers
    licenses. Let's just say if you knock on my front door like you are supposed to I may let you in but if you jump my
    back fence I will for sure call the police. Immigrants are great, my husband is one, but please come in through the front door. I (WE) want
    to know who you are and how you plan to
    support yourself once you are let in.


    smarterthanthat wrote on July 13, 2008 07:34 AM: He acknowledged that illegal immigrants are already prohibited by law from receiving these benefits, but said such laws are not enforced.

    This is nothing more than a cheap play for publicity and a chance for this guy to build some more racism among the people. There are laws in place. How can they not be enforced? Do you think welfare workers don't make people give proof of citizenship when they apply for benefits? This guy is using a Mussolini tactic. Nauseating.


    missy wrote on July 12, 2008 12:12 AM: I am a Democrat and I am all for enforcing the immigration laws as they are supposed to be. I feel the whole English as the official language is totally stupid. As long as this is a state in the USA then there is no question about the language. If you can't speak and basically refuse to respect and learn the language of our country, you need to go back to wherever you came from. This is the United States of America and if you want to belong you must join our country in all aspects of citizenship. Not just enough to make money get benifits and attempt to take over.


    Paul Booth wrote on July 11, 2008 11:45 PM: Isabel
    Maybe the illegals having cost you anything.But they have cost many Americans many things. You get money for students in schools big deal You would not need the money if the illegal was not there Money is not the answer. I am in construction and the illegals you see at home Depot are taking my jobs and costing me my home. So don't tell me to except illegals in my country. I pray they do not take your life from you as they are doing to me.


    Paul Booth wrote on July 11, 2008 11:31 PM: I guess we must have a majority of Democrats in the government. If this bills did not pass like english the offical language. Demoncrats are not for America as there voting proves.We need Republicans so we can take back America. They are turning America over to other countries. OPEC owns our economy and Mexico owns our jobs.
    Guess when the hopuseing started to crash and the gas started to rise.2006 same time that the Demoncrats took over the Senate and the House.


    ray wrote on July 11, 2008 08:35 PM: THE FOLLOWING IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE PROPOSED

    1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

    2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.

    3. All government business will be conducted in our language.

    4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.

    5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

    6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

    7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

    8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels includ ing waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

    9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

    10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.

    Harsh, you say?

    The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO.

    The same country pissing, moaning and complaining about our efforts to control illegal immigration.

    Go figure, with a bottle of Tequila.




    snackler wrote on July 11, 2008 08:13 PM: Two points. When an official language is declared, it means that all business conducted by the government is done in that language. No way does it mean everyone must speak that language. It is the immigrant advocates that spread the BS that it is more than that. It is a scare tactic they use to get legal citizens who don't speak English to panic and get on their congressman. A few years ago they claimed that Californias official documents were printed in 27 languages. Why your legislators want state immigration laws is because states and municipalities across the US are being sued by immigrant groups if they enforce Federal immigration laws. The argument they use is that Federal laws should be enforced by the Feds and that state and local governments are out of line if they try to enforce Federal immigration laws. Many courts have agreed with them. That's why Fernando Romero wants all legislation on immigration done at the Federal level so the state can do nothing.


    Keith wrote on July 11, 2008 07:43 PM: I have noticed that most of the comments are in favor of these laws. I too believe that we are being over run by illegal emigrates from many countries and that our boarders need to be secured and enforcement of employment laws stepped up. I also think that we should make laws that make it more fair and shorter duration for legal immigration to our country. We need the best of the world not the worst to be on top of the immigration list. English is the world language and it should be the language that binds all Americans together. I believe that all new comers to our great country should read and understand the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence in the language that these documents were written in, before they can become citizens.


    d g wrote on July 11, 2008 07:15 PM: illegal means illegal. if the bleeding heart liberals want all these so-called "entitlements" for illegals that they are not entitled to, then we need to change some other laws. drunk driving=legal. murder=legal. fraud=legal. if illegals are not treated as just that, illegal, then nothing else should be illegal either. i am so tired of the liberals trying to give everything away to people that don't deserve it, don't work for it, dont have a right to it, all the while the people that get it stuck up our a$$es are the people that did earn it, did work for and do deserve it. beware if obama gets elected!


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