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Council to discuss complaints of airport neighbors

Imagine the sound of several lawn mowers, all operating at the same time in your backyard.

Now imagine having to listen to that sound 12 hours a day, seven days a week, for two years.

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  • That's what Rene Thompson says she's endured since moving to her home next to Willie McCool Regional Park's airfield in North Las Vegas, long-time playground for remote-controlled airplane enthusiasts.

    It's driven her a little batty.

    "You can hear it inside the house, with the doors closed, the dishwasher and TV on," said Thompson, who, along with her husband, works from home. "I can't escape it. It's like Chinese water torture. A little drop on your head, 12 hours a day, and you'll be quite loony."

    Thompson and some of her neighbors have consistently complained in recent years to the city about the noise.

    The North Las Vegas City Council will hold a special meeting at 4:30 p.m. today to discuss the matter.

    But fliers who frequent the airfield near Decatur Boulevard and Horse Drive say Thompson is exaggerating the racket.

    It's not as loud, for example, as the jets from Nellis Air Force Base that fly overhead every few minutes. And, they say, the noise is anything but non-stop.

    "By about 2 p.m., everybody's gone," Bryan Ward said Tuesday morning after maneuvering one of his 20 remote-controlled airplanes through several mid-air swoops and rolls. Ward visits the park several times a week to fly his planes.

    Fliers also say that only a few planes are ever soaring through the air at once. The limit is five.

    Besides, Ward says, the fliers were there first. They were doing just fine, thank you, before development encroached on their space.

    "All those people who live there, they had to sign a waiver" saying they were aware of the airfield that's been operating at the park since 1993, Ward said.

    That's not the point, Thompson said.

    "Did we know it was going to be 12 hours a day and at this level of intensity?" she asked. "No."

    To illustrate just how maddening she says the plane noise can be, Thompson played a recording of it during conversation with a reporter.

    It was, admittedly, annoying.

    Paul Schmitz, president of the Rebel Squadron flying club, is a flier who's willing to admit Thompson's complaints have some merit.

    "I've been in her home, and there are some aircraft that are rather nerve-wracking," he said.

    Schmitz and Thompson have decided to take a novel approach to neighborly conflict: they're working together to come up with a mutually agreeable solution.

    Thompson is attempting to understand the fliers' passion for remote-controlled aircraft.

    "It's the camaraderie and the skill" that drive them, she said.

    And Schmitz is trying to feel her pain.

    The city, so far, is letting the neighbors and fliers take the lead.

    "The best way to do problem solving like this is to get the stakeholders together and see if they can solve their own problems," said Mike Henley, director of the city's parks and recreation department.

    The airfield comprises a small chunk of the 160-acre park that in 2004 was dedicated to space shuttle Columbia Pilot Willie McCool, Henley said.

    "When it was first built it was out at the edge of the universe," he said.

    About 120 pilots use the airfield.

    Discussions between the city and stakeholders have included closing the airfield on Sundays, further limiting the airfield's hours -- it's now open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. -- and even closing the field or moving it someplace more remote.

    Thompson, Schmitz and Henley have agreed to pursue a plan, if the City Council agrees, that would require annual model airplane registrations -- much like smog checks for cars -- that would measure the amount of noise each model makes. If your plane is too loud, you won't be allowed to fly at McCool.

    Henley and Thompson say the plan is a short-term solution that will do until the field can be relocated.

    But Schmitz insists that won't be necessary.

    "I really believe there's no need to move the field," he said. "We can co-exist with the residents there without being a nuisance."

    Schmitz said the fliers have tried to be good neighbors, even hosting an open house at the airfield the last Saturday of each month. Nonpilots are invited to learn about model airplanes and even have the chance to help fly them.

    "I've been thankful they built us such a beautiful place to fly," Schmitz said. "We need to be good stewards."

    Ward said fliers are willing to compromise in order to keep their airfield. If McCool were to close, fliers would be forced to drive across town to the William Bennett Radio Controlled Airfield near Sam Boyd Stadium.

    That's a long trek for Ward, who lives just 10 minutes from McCool.

    "Just please don't leave us with nothing," he said.

    Contact reporter Lynnette Curtis at lcurtis@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0285.



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    James wrote on July 17, 2008 12:10 AM: "That's what Rene Thompson says she's endured since moving to her home next to Willie McCool Regional Park's airfield in North Las Vegas, long-time playground for remote-controlled airplane enthusiasts."

    HAHAHAHA. Rene Thompson is an idiot for moving there.


    TimeRanger wrote on July 16, 2008 11:04 PM: Bottom line - These people KNEW the air-park was there ... They had to sign waivers acknowledging its existense. Now they have 2 choices - sell and move or go pound sand!


    Summerlin is a Jerk wrote on July 16, 2008 10:15 PM: Summerlin, can you gife us your exact street location instead of presuming to somehow represent Summerlin?


    It wasn't Knudsen, or was it? wrote on July 16, 2008 10:01 PM: It was that school on West Washington, West of Valley View, East of Decatur, and John is still a helpful, passive-aggressive idiot. Sorry, Ben.


    Excessive RC Experience wrote on July 16, 2008 09:53 PM: "Loud noise is a form of rape."

    No, drama queen. Rape, and only rape, is a form of rape. Take a pill.

    As a former remote control enthusiast, I can tell you that a certain percentage of the enthusiasts are idiots.

    There is no requirement for licensure to fly electric remotes, yet some of those electrics can fly 80 plus miles per hour. I used to fly at the Knudsen Middle School field. There was a man, emotional age 12, with his son, a 12 year old, who allowed his son to fly and crash 80 plus mile per hour electric planes on a regular basis.

    Those newer, high-energy lithium batteries sometimes catch fire when they crash, especially at those speeds, depending on the sudden forces upon the battery pack upon crashing. They can set houses on fire. They can kill people. Right, Nice Twice?

    Now, as for the gassers. Are there any noise restrictions on your planes? On your BIG planes? I mean really BIG? As I recall, the EPA put noise restrictions on motocross bikes.

    Noise is pollution. Placing reasonable limits on gas RC noise is simply reasonable. Gassers are required to be licensed and carry crash insurance (they can and do crash into peoples' heads on occasion).

    The eighty mile-per-hour plus electric flying wings carry no such requirements. That's why I quit going to Knudsen, besides the fact that John is a passive-aggressive loser jerk.

    Whaddya say, John? How's the job at motel maintenance? Seen Santa Clause lately? Best thing I ever did was stop talking with ya. Maybe Ben would be better off with mom.


    Virga wrote on July 16, 2008 07:58 PM: If you knew how many people have beem killed over loud music you would change your tone.

    Quedo and sixpack might come over there and break your leg.

    If you wanted to make noise you should have bought the ajoining property to protect yourself.

    Loud noise is a form of rape. You are forcing someone to listen in anguish to something that pleases you and gives you pleasure.

    Annoying others brings you pleasure?


    Hotcop wrote on July 16, 2008 07:55 PM: Sad summerlin, you have no sense of humor. I live in Summerlin and you are giving our neighborhood a bad name and have for months on.
    Why don't you move to Henderson.
    Now that is funny.


    jude wrote on July 16, 2008 07:38 PM: I work for a large corp. dealing with mobile homes. It is so unbelieveable as to what people sign and do not read. What has happened to this world today. Leave the people alone that are flying their planes. It's a great hobby and a lot better in things I have seen. Drugs-Booze-and a lot of other problems. At least they are enjoying themselves in a nice clean sport.


    idiots wrote on July 16, 2008 07:02 PM: why do you homeowners always want to blame the people and places that the hobbist have to enjoy and on top of that they were there 1st. if you need to blame someone, blame the developer, the realtor, your own selves for not looking into what is around you before you bought the place. it's like people who buy on a golf course so that you can brag to your friends, OH I LIVE ON A GOLF COURSE!!!!! then find out that you live right in the driving area of that hole. YOU"RE THE STUPID ONES!!!!!!


    Jason wrote on July 16, 2008 05:52 PM: Phil Gramm was right. We are now a nation of whiners. You don't have the right to not hear any noise. How dare she say that it doesn't matter she signed the waiver.


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