Cal Farnsworth wrote on November 11, 2008 05:52 AM: I am still waiting for "The" Noise Study from the Residents for Relocation of the Clark County Shooting Park, or the Attorney who filed papers to get a TRO....

No results yet!

The Papers were filed on 8-25-08.

Cal Farnsworth wrote on September 01, 2008 05:11 AM: I saw in the RJ that the Carmel Canyon HOA had already Done a Sound Study.

The County had already scheduled a Sound Study. These Home Owners are not being very Open and honest.

I want to see the Sound Study that the Carmel Canyon HOA had done as stated in the RJ.

Did they really do it ?

I don't think so !

Steve wrote on August 29, 2008 12:06 AM: Cal,

Small minority of park supporters is the right wording for Jen.

Jen wrote on August 24, 2008 04:25 PM: To Steve - while I appreciate your response, those of us who are in support of the park and who disagree with a lot of the rhetoric that has been thrown out there by RASP have been called all sorts of names by others in the community (I personally experienced this abuse by two members of the HOA Board/RASP committee) and by one neighbor. Though we may be in the minority, does that make the abuse, threats, and name-calling right? Does that give our HOA board the right to abuse their authority. NO.

Jen wrote on August 24, 2008 04:20 PM: Another "coincidence" for you - people who have voiced their support for the park have been "violated" for supposed HOA infractions, while others who have voiced opposition to the park haven't received a violation for the exact same "infraction". Another coincidence by our HOA board that are also on the RASP committee (the RASP committee is a group that has been formed to fight the shooting park - the same "heads" that are also on our HOA board)?

I don't know what the heck is going on, but the coincidences are adding up (what's the old saying: "if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck..."). Maybe I should file my own lawsuit against the HOA board??? Investigate all of these "coincidences" that add up more and more everyday.

Cal Farnsworth wrote on August 24, 2008 03:10 PM: Jen,
It seems as if the HOA is excelling in their intimidation of a small minority of people who are being reasonable.

They only want exercise their Authority !

Perhaps the increase in HOA Fees should be researched.

steve wrote on August 22, 2008 08:56 AM: Jen,

I also live in Carmel Canyon and would like to dispel your blanket staements about this being something that has divided the community. The fact is it has brought our community strongly together to fight this injustice. To the three individuals living in the community that are in favor of the shooting park as with any minority opinion it may feel they are far out numbered, living in a divided community and this may and not be a good thing. This is true with any minority stance on any issue and I can relate to your feelings.

To the other 99%, of which I am a part it feels very good to see the way the entire Northwest has united against the County corruption that went into the planning and development of this park. Never in my life have I been in a more united and well fought fight against county collusion of this nature.

In regards to you receiving your notice about your yard, this is because we now have a new property management company that came in and cracked down on existing landscaping violations. I am against the park and also received a notice saying my landscaping needed to be trimmed, so there goes your theory of a crack down on yo.

Jen wrote on August 14, 2008 01:02 PM: Sorry - but I would like to clarify my statement about the conflict of interest. As one major example, the same person who is the Treasurer for the HOA Board is the same person asking for us to send money to him (checks written to him personally) for the "lawyer fund".

This whole thing is making me (and maybe others) extremely uncomfortable. Maybe there is no conflict of interest, but there are many coincidences. If the community wants to form and run this "RASP" community, I have no problem with that. However, I highly suggest that our HOA board look at how this all may be viewed, and the members consider doing one or the other, but not both.

My family and I plan on utilizing the park when it's built. We hope that the county will be a good neighbor and work with us to make sure that sound and/or traffic does not become an issue. What the RASP group is doing is making sure that not only our community remains divided, but that the County will not work with us once their lawsuit is filed.

Jen wrote on August 14, 2008 11:38 AM: My family lives in Carmel Canyon. We believe that we should work with the county to establish conditions that will make everyone happy, and that the actions of hiring an attorney has totally decreased the probability that the County will communicate and work with us (usually happens when lawsuits are threatened/filed).

My biggest concern about this whole issue is what it is doing to our community. Neighbors are arguing with each other, accusations are made, lines are being drawn, it's sad. We recently received a notice asking for us to join the lawsuit, and that they need more money. We then get a notice from our HOA that our HOA fees may be increased. Are they related?

I've made my point of view known to a few on the committee (at which point I was accused of being one of "them" - meaning a 100% anti-community, county-loving supporter), and shortly thereafter we get a complaint about our yard (which is pristine). Are they related?

This whole thing has gotten out of control. No one trusts anyone in the community anymore; some of us our concerned that a majority of the people that are on our HOA board are also on the committee that was formed to fight the shooting park. Many of us are very concerned about the conflict of interest that is starting to appear.

I'm staying anonymous on this posting because of the very conflict within our community. It's unfortunate and sad. I just hope this ends soon so that people can move on without all of this hostility.

Steve wrote on August 10, 2008 11:25 AM: CD, you better recheck your information. The build out of the park is 900 acres not 200 you state making it the world's largest shooting park in the world. In addition the 50 caliber weapons have the potential for traveling over a couple miles. Were there to be an errant shot, these bullets could easily impact the surrounding communities. The other land you refer to as unused is basically useless as every animal will high tail it out of there once the shooting starts. This is not natural preservation given what the 900 acres will be used for.

The point you are missing on the notification is that unless you were a shooter you would have never known where this shooting park was going in. Even, Mr. Carmichael manager of the Floyd Lamb shooting facility said this himself in a previous article.

This notification disaster we face today could all have been solved by the County mandating builder disclosure (like they do by Ben Avery) and not placing the zoning change signs 750 feet away from the park on a dirt road in the desert. They raised this topic at a 2005 Shooting Park Advisory meeting and then accidentally or purposely never followed up on mandating builder disclosure.

CD, the County either was not bright enough to anticipate the truly predictable problem we have today with the residents or they purposely took the path of least resistance to get the park built regardless of the casualties. My suspicion it was the second reason and it was intentional.

That is great you would sign your kids up to the shotgun team. That is your choice. It is my choice not to have thousands of cars armed with weapons driving past my child's high school. That is my choice.

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