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Northwest residents up in arms about shooting park

Lawsuit filed in bid to stop construction

A collection of northwest valley homeowners filed a lawsuit Monday against Clark County, attempting to stop the construction of a 2,900-acre shooting complex just outside their neighborhood.

County officials have characterized the project as a shooting park, a term that makes residents chuckle sarcastically.


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  • "We think it's a little more like Disneyland with guns," said attorney Matthew Callister, noting that the shooting range is six times the size of the amusement park.

    Homeowners believe the location of the park, which is under construction, is absurd. The distance from the complex to the nearest home is a half-mile, they said. The project is also within walking distance of Shadow Ridge High School and K.M. Ward Elementary School. That's much too close in a era where school shootings are all too frequent, residents said.

    "The residential neighborhoods and schools predate construction of this massive commercial shooting complex," a complaint filed by Callister says.

    County spokeswoman Jennifer Knight said the county cannot comment on the issue because of the lawsuit.

    "This is pure common sense; this is just mind-boggling," said Tyson Wrensch, who bought his home in 2004.

    Plans to build the shooting park have been in the works for more than two decades. But since the project was first pitched, neighborhoods and schools have sprouted up in an area once considered distant from urbanization. The park is located between Decatur Boulevard and Buffalo Drive, just north of Moccasin Road at the base of Sheep Mountain.

    Wrensch and his neighbors said this isn't a case where residents moved in next door to an airport and then complained about the air traffic. They said they were never told by homebuilders or real estate agents about the shooting complex; county commissioners never required the disclosure.

    Before buying or building their homes, residents did their due diligence, studying master plans and future uses of surrounding land. Until recently, the master plan showed the property, which is larger than McCarran International Airport, as intended for public use. Realtors told home buyers the land would most likely be developed into a water facility, library or even an equestrian park with trails.

    Residents believed any of those uses would be compatible with their neighborhood.

    A shooting range is not.

    The complex will include a 1,200-yard high-power rifle range, 125 trap ranges and 24 skeet ranges.

    Knight recently told the news media that the sound generated by the facility would be comparable to dogs barking or a helicopter flying overhead.

    "To hear an occasional barking dog or a helicopter or even a fighter jet is not a nuisance," said resident Lorraine Lennard. "But imagine hearing dogs barking or helicopters flying or repetitive, constant gunfire 12 hours per day."

    A study conducted by residents showed the noise level at nearby homes between 90 and 100 decibels. A county ordinance does not allow noise levels to exceed 56 decibels in residential neighborhoods.

    Wrensch, who served as a spokesman for the homeowners Monday, said nobody is anti-gun. They simply believe the complex is in a bad location.

    "There are more guns in my house than people," Wrensch said. "This is not an anti-gun community."

    Contact reporter Adrienne Packer at apacker@reviewjournal.com or 702-384-8710.

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    Cal Farnsworth wrote on March 01, 2009 09:58 AM: maz wrote on September 02, 2008 11:58 AM: The Carmel Canyon HOA has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the legal action taken, nor did it "demand" anything of anyone. Get your facts straight because you know nothing of which you speak.

    Then why was the Public Meeting posted on the Nor'Town Politics Website ?


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    Cal Farnsworth wrote on March 01, 2009 08:32 AM: Over it wrote on January 10, 2009 10:56 AM: Cal. I don't know of any HOA meeting that is public. Councilman Ross has asked to attend all kinds of HOA meetings and those aren't public meetings.

    Do you want some cheese with your whine?

    The Carmel Canyon HOA Posted Public Notice( Nortown Politics website )of the Atlante Library Meeting where several threats were made, and Papers were thrown into the Face of State Senator John Lee, and disparaging remarks were made to the Invited Guest.

    Get Over It !


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    Cal Farnsworth wrote on March 01, 2009 08:21 AM: By the Way

    Don Turner is not on the NRA Board of Directors.


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    Cal Farnsworth wrote on March 01, 2009 08:19 AM: Tyson,
    You didn't buy your house until 2004.

    The Land for the Clark County Shooting Park was Passed on the US Senate Floor by means of PUBLIC LAW 107–350—DEC. 17, 2002.

    And was later signed into Law by the President of the United States on Jan 23,2003.

    You either didn't ask, or were too enamored with the thrill of New Home Ownership to care.

    Sorry !


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    Over it wrote on January 10, 2009 10:56 AM: Cal. I don't know of any HOA meeting that is public. Councilman Ross has asked to attend all kinds of HOA meetings and those aren't public meetings.

    Do you want some cheese with your whine?


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    Cal Farnsworth wrote on September 10, 2008 08:56 PM: The Carmel Canyon HOA held a Public ( Well not so much a Public as a Residents Only) Meeting where the invited the Media, but not the public.
    Maz, Nick, Richard, Tyson, ( The usual 12 ) were there, but No Public were invited to the Publicized Public Meeting.

    Then there was the NWRRG, and now there's the RASP with the same 12 People speaking the same mantra.

    Just Change your Acronym again and it's NEWS.

    Just Move on or Move Out !

    Where's the Noise Study that any of the above groups has on record?
    Or is there really one at all?

    On Sept 19,2002 Sen Harry Reid got the Land by an Act of Congress. It was signed into Public Law on Jan 23, 2003.

    When were your Houses Built?

    Get over it.


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    VK wrote on September 05, 2008 08:51 PM: To all the people who call us whiners for not doing our research before we bought our houses, you have no clue what you are talking about. It wasn't just the builder who lied, but the county who assured us that the area was a park with walking trails and maybe a library or fire station. If we had known the worlds largest shooting park was planned do you really think we would have bought houses here?
    You ignorant people shouldn't comment when you don't know anything about it.
    All we are trying to do is protect the quality of life we have now. Wouldn't you do the same?


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    Steve wrote on September 02, 2008 07:14 PM: Cal,

    I am a police officer living in Iron Mountain and have no involvement with the HOA at Carmel Canyon. I belong to the Northwest residents group opposed to the shooting parks location.

    Your comments about waiting for a full buildout before do a sound study are inconsistent with reality. One can simulate the sound levels of the entire shooting park similar to the testing done when an airport is proposed. Shotgun noise heard by the schools and residents in this case will be a factor of field distance alone largely since shotgun noise can not effectively be muffled by berms.


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    maz wrote on September 02, 2008 11:58 AM: The Carmel Canyon HOA has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the legal action taken, nor did it "demand" anything of anyone. Get your facts straight because you know nothing of which you speak.


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    Cal Farnsworth wrote on September 01, 2008 04:51 PM: So Where is your study which is of course superior.

    If that is the case then the noise study that the Carmel Canyon HOA demanded be done for the CCSP cannot be done until it is built out in full right ?

    Don Turner will be glad to hear that you people are willing to wait that long to have a real noise study done.

    And therefore you are dropping the federal lawsuit until the noise study that the Carmel canyon HOA demanded be done is completed to your satisfaction.

    Steve are you on the Carmel Canyon HOA Board, and are you speaking on their behalf?


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