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STATE BUDGET DEFICIT: Gibbons says tax hikes possible

'Nothing is off the table,' governor says

RENO -- Gov. Jim Gibbons said Friday that "nothing is off the table" and that even tax increases might be required to deal with a growing state budget deficit.

After a closed-door, two-hour meeting with key legislators, Gibbons said declining tax revenues are forcing the state to cut spending by another $300 million for the fiscal year ending June 30 and by $1.5 billion in the 2009-11 two-year budget.


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  • Officials already have cut state spending by $1.2 billion since January.

    "We are going to have to look at some of our revenue (sources) and see if that is an option," said Gibbons when questioned by reporters whether he would support tax increases. "I don't want to raise taxes, as everybody knows. It would be a terrible thing in a time of recession."

    But Gibbons, who was elected on a no-tax-increase platform, said he would sign tax increase bills that have the support of the general public or the affected industry.

    Voters in Washoe and Clark counties on Tuesday approved an advisory question calling for a 3 percentage point increase in room taxes. The tax would bring in about $120 million a year.

    New Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, D-Las Vegas, and Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie, D-Reno, said a spirit of cooperation existed between the governor and legislators of both parties who attended the budget discussion.

    "Senate Democrats will work in a bipartisan manner with our colleagues in the Legislature and governor to find solutions to balance the budget without across-the-board cuts to essential services," said Horsford, who attended the meeting via teleconference in Las Vegas.

    Like families and businesses, the state must make spending adjustments while still "preserving educational opportunities for our children and quality health care for the citizens of our entire state," Horsford said.

    Leslie said legislators and the governor need to better explain to the public what the effects of cutting the budget by $1.5 billion for the 2009-11 period would be.

    "It would mean massive layoffs and shutting down rural hospitals," she said.

    Senate Minority Leader Bill Raggio, R-Reno, said the state could not stand another $1.5 billion in cuts because it would mean reductions in essential services.

    "We're talking about survival," said Raggio, who noted Gibbons, traditionally an anti-tax advocate, now is willing to consider every option.

    Gibbons mentioned the Legislature could pass tax increases over his veto with a two-thirds majority of each house. Democrats now hold a 28-14 veto-proof majority in the Assembly and a 12-9 lead in the Senate. If two Republican senators sided with Democrats, then a tax bill would pass over Gibbons' veto.

    During the 2003 session, most Senate Republicans joined Democrats in passing a record $833 million tax increase by a 17-2 vote. After a long deadlock in the Assembly, the bill passed there by a 28-14 vote.

    "Taxes alone will never make up (for the shortfall)," Gibbons said. "You need a combination."

    The governor said he will not support any reductions in Medicaid, the health care program for the poor, or in the Department of Corrections and in the Department of Public Safety budgets.

    "Some departments you can't cut. You can't cut Medicaid, you can't cut corrections and let prisoners out of the back door. You can't cut public safety (which includes the Nevada Highway Patrol)," Gibbons said.

    He emphasized he did not want to lay off state employees or teachers.

    As an alternative to layoffs, Gibbons said some employees might take 5 percent salary reductions.

    "But some have contracts. They would have to do it voluntarily. I would rather take a cut than have my neighbor laid off," he said.

    Gibbons said he and legislators will meet again on Nov. 17, when his budget analysts will release information on the number of layoffs that would be necessary if spending was cut by $1.5 billion.

    When the Legislature adjourned in June 2007, the state's two-year budget was set at $6.8 billion.

    Legislators and Gibbons have cut $1.2 billion in spending, but that included delaying construction projects and using the state's $267 million rainy day fund. Actual tax revenue for the current two-year budget cycle is expected to be slightly less than $6 billion.

    Based on current analyses, Gibbons said the state can expect tax revenue in the 2009-11, two-year budget cycle of about $5.7 billion.

    At the same time, state agencies have projected they need $7.2 billion just to keep services at current levels. The increases over the current two-year budget would cover costs of additional student enrollment, higher utility costs and increases in medical costs.

    Gibbons said he hoped the federal government would approve an economic stimulus package that includes money for infrastructure improvements, such as roads and bridges, in Nevada.

    Such a program would boost employment and "leave something behind for us," he added.

    During a news conference in Chicago on Friday, President-elect Barack Obama said that if Congress does not approve an economic stimulus plan in a coming lame-duck session, then that would be his first priority after assuming the presidency on Jan. 20.

    Contact Capital Bureau Chief Ed Vogel at evogel@reviewjournal.com or 775-687-3901.

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    endrun wrote on November 09, 2008 02:36 PM: Executioner,


    ...you s**k!!!


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    endrun wrote on November 09, 2008 02:33 PM: Executioner

    ...you suck


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    Trivia Answer wrote on November 09, 2008 12:00 AM: Right now the majority of posters are saying "Sawyer? O'Callaghan? Who are these people? The only governors I know are Schwarzenegger, Davis, Wilson, Deukmejian..."

    Speaking of which, is there anyone in Nevada who wouldn't have preferred a matchup between the two losers of the '06 primaries, Beers and Gibson?


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    state lotto wrote on November 08, 2008 11:53 PM: To Trivia answer, did you forget Sawyer and O'Callahan?

    There would have had one more if Gibson would have won.

    We ended up with siggy's one hit wonder Gibbons.

    Either way, the public needs to start selecting our candidates instead of the same stable of power over and over.


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    Trivia Answer wrote on November 08, 2008 11:19 PM: I believe it's "4":

    List, Miller, Guinn, and Bryan. Am I right? What do I win?
    ....
    Yes, let's tax our way into prosperity. The absolute last thing we need in an economy like this is more money in the pockets of the people. Not when there are UNLV vice presidents of diversity to pay 6-digit taxpayer-funded salaries to. And let's not forget the "Baby Your Baby" program, which reminds meth-addicted pregnant women not to do coke when gestating.


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    do you realize wrote on November 08, 2008 09:20 PM: Limited Liability companies in Nevada get a free ride. Many are shell companies. Do you know that when an LLC is revoked it is primarily because they did not pay the fees for two years. Yet, I do not believe that the secretary of state heller or miller have ever collected. I heard it was because we have no regulatory laws on the book to collect. Was this by design?

    If these LLC's started paying that would help. How many politicians are hidden up in the LLC's? That will tell you why the LLC's get a free ride.


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    Jim wrote on November 08, 2008 08:59 PM: It's universally acknowledged that Gibbons is a dolt, but at least he's gotten some "credit" for mindlessly sticking to his "no new taxes" pledge. Now he's lost even that dubious distinction. Dump him.


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    state lotto wrote on November 08, 2008 08:55 PM: A state lotto would solve a lot of the problem. But, Gibbons casino bosses would never go for it.

    As a native, I can tell you things have never gotten this bad before. Yeah, there were some precautionary cut backs but nothing as drastic as what is happening now.

    Usually, we were never hit as hard as other states. But, we overbuilt. The old casino owners new that the wealthy would not support the casinos. Thus, they has separate floors in the hotels to accommodate the high roller and they had rooms for the average Joe that were nicer than most rooms at major hotel chains. They have now priced out the average Joe. Make no mistake, the presidents and ceo's can walk tomorrow and still be billionaires.

    Our state has no leadership. Until the residents stop allowing Reid and Rogich to run the state nothing will change. I do have to chuckle when I think that Gibbons was the best Rogich could come up with.

    When the voters take time to nominate their own candidates the state might progress and move forward. I suspect for the next gubernatorial go around your choice with be Rory Reid or Oscar = Reid, Mike Montanton or Gibbers = Rogich

    We will be right back where we started.
    Connect the dots.

    Here is a trivia question. How many Nevada Governors had ties to the law firm that Rory Reid is currently a share holder at??


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    Heather wrote on November 08, 2008 08:31 PM: If we are headed towards recession why are we wasting money on the stupid animal sculptures on S95 and Valley View?

    HELLO State of Nevada - WAKE UP!


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    5150 Dave wrote on November 08, 2008 07:59 PM: "New From Cali" You are why I left California. You Democrats made it impossible to run a profitable business. Candidly California needs to become two independent states, north and south. Nevada's problem is it's reliance on the gaming industry. It needs to do a lot more to bring more different types of businesses to this state. This won't solve all the problems but it's a start.

    62 degrees nice...


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