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CORRECTION ON 11/14/08 -- A story in Thursday's Review-Journal on a possible strike by American Medical Response emergency medical services personnel incorrectly described the availability of paramedic transport units in the Las Vegas and Clark County fire departments. The Las Vegas Fire Department has 20 paramedic transport units, or teams, and nine reserve transport units. The Clark County Fire Department has 24 paramedic transport units and two paramedic fire engine units that can treat patients but not transport them.

NOV. 28 DEADLINE: Paramedic strike looms

Las Vegas, county officials urge resolution of ambulance service dispute

Las Vegas and Clark County officials urged the area's largest ambulance service and the union representing its paramedics and emergency medical technicians to resolve a labor dispute that could lead to a strike Nov. 28.

Clark County Commission Chairman Rory Reid and Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said Wednesday that they are concerned that a strike by American Medical Response's paramedics and EMTs could jeopardize the health and public safety of Las Vegas residents and tourists.


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  • "We urged them to resolve this because we are a tourist-based economy and the world does not need to hear that Las Vegas does not have the services of paramedics," Reid said at the Southern Nevada Health District, where he and Goodman spoke to reporters about the looming strike.

    Reid and Goodman learned of the labor dispute early Wednesday. The two said they were unclear about what prompted Service Employees International Union Local 1107, which represents American Medical Response's paramedics and EMTs, to threaten a strike on the day after Thanksgiving.

    AMR, under contract with the city of Las Vegas and Clark County, is responsible for 60 percent of the patient transports in those areas, said Rory Chetelat, emergency services manager for the Southern Nevada Health District.

    "These are interesting and critical times in the City of Las Vegas and our community," Goodman said. "We don't need the added aggravation of a strike.''

    Goodman said the issue between the two entities appears to be over what union is representing the interests of the paramedics and EMTs.

    Once that is resolved, "I don't see how they can't just sit down take care of the issues at hand,'' Goodman said.

    The contract for American Medical Response's paramedics and EMTs expired Oct. 31.

    Within days of the contract expiration, SEIU 1107 sent its sister union -- the International Association of EMTs and Paramedics, or IAEP -- to handle negotiations, said SEIU 1107 Executive Director Ed Burke.

    The day after IAEP approached the ambulance company, SEIU representatives went to the table to negotiate, Burke said.

    American Medical Response refused to talk, he said.

    AMR officials gave a different version of what happened in a press statement issued Wednesday afternoon. They accused SEIU Local 1107 of attempting to use IAEP to serve as the bargaining representative for AMR's local workers when it was not certified to do so.

    AMR claims that under the National Labor Relations Act, it is an unfair labor practice for an employer to bargain with any group other than the labor organization that is certified by the National Labor Relations Board, or NLRB, to represent a specific group of employees.

    "AMR has filed a petition asking the NLRB to resolve the matter, and if the NLRB validates the company's position, AMR will request an NLRB-supervised election, which would allow employees to vote on which group should represent them,'' AMR's press statement said.

    The statement also said that if the NLRB validates the union's position and the agreement between SEIU and IAEP is found to be legal, the company will return to the bargaining table to negotiate a new contract.

    Burke called AMR's move a "smoke screen.''

    "They know who represents the paramedics and EMTs. They are just trying to break the union,'' he said. "We know they are having one-on-one meetings with paramedics and EMTs and asking them why they need a union.''

    Burke said SEIU issued a strike notice on Wednesday. The SEIU's Web site said that emergency medical services professionals recently voted in favor of going on strike. Burke said a strike could mean that more than 100 AMR workers will be removed from the field at 6 a.m. Nov. 28.

    Labor strife is nothing new between Colorado-based AMR and SEIU's sister union, the International Association of EMTs and Paramedics.

    In April, about 300 AMR workers in Southern California went on strike and picketed three AMR locations.

    The strike ended after three days when the two sides reached an agreement on a new contract that included 20 percent pay raises over four years.

    During the strike, AMR used EMTs and paramedics from elsewhere in California and from out-of-state to work in place of the striking employees.

    Five months later, the two sides averted a strike of AMR workers in Central California by agreeing to a contract three days before a walkout was set to begin.

    Before reaching the agreement, the union said AMR planned to mandate unsafe shift schedules of up to 72 hours. That was reduced to 48 hours in the final contract, which also included a 13 percent pay raise and cost-of-living hikes over three years.

    If the SEIU goes forward with the AMR strike, it could lead to delays in emergency services in Clark County and the city of Las Vegas, Reid and Goodman said Wednesday.

    Reid said AMR has a contingency plan that would bring in replacement paramedics and EMTs from other states. But the idea of having ambulance drivers unfamiliar with Las Vegas streets and roads didn't sit well with Reid or Goodman.

    "That's certainly not an ideal situation,'' Reid said. "We'd prefer them to be familiar with our community and that they have experience serving the streets of our community. Obviously, this is something the community wants to avoid.''

    Fire chiefs from Las Vegas and Clark County said they also have contingency plans in case of a strike.

    Las Vegas Fire Department Chief Greg Gammon said the department has 21 paramedics and nine more on reserve. He said four of the reserves are ready to step in and the others could be active within a day.

    Clark County Fire Department Chief Steve Smith said his department has 24 paramedics and four reserves. They also can be ready to work within a day, he said.

    AMR officials also said they would ask the health district to approve an emergency declaration so that certain requirements for replacement paramedics could be waived.

    According to the health district, prospective paramedics must ride along with other paramedics for at least 120 hours before they are allowed to serve in the area.

    Reporter Brian Haynes contributed to this story. Contact reporter Annette Wells at awells@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0283.

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    Fellow medic wrote on November 14, 2008 08:35 AM: I love being a Paramedic. It’s something that I am very proud of. To become an EMT or a Paramedic (Not ambulance drivers) is a task that doesn’t come easy. The schooling itself is rough enough and then you must complete a field internship. Once you make it and you proudly wear the Paramedic patch, you run from call to call and are very happy to do the job. We, the non tax based private ambulance companies Medic west and AMR who just happen to be sister companies owned by EMSC, work very hard to provide the public with the care that they need. I am employed by Medic west. It’s not a bad place to work but it could be a whole lot better. As a matter of fact, just a few years ago, it was an amazing place to work. But, as all good things must come to an end, EMSC bought out medic west. So here we are. I don’t think that the general public understands what kind of company that we work for. We are under paid, over worked. MWA (Medic West Ambulance) isn’t union, yet. We are working on that. Please understand that facts before you give your much respected opinion. Understand that we are men and women who risk our lives and are always in harms way. We are unrestrained in the back of moving ambulances, we are working on people who have be in traumas or are having a medical emergency and could possible have HIV, Hep C, TB or many other conditions that could be contracted by one of us. We have families and don’t want to take that home to them. The average EMT basic makes 8 bucks an hour, the average EMT-I, 10 bucks and paramedic….15 to 16 bucks an hour. Some make more, but in most cases, not much more. All three levels are trained to save your life. So, please think about our risks, our sacrifices that we make on a daily basis and support your non-tax based emergency workers. Call AMR and ask them to come back to the table and talk.


    Huh? wrote on November 14, 2008 07:10 AM: AMR needs time to install the spy cams like they did in Connecticut.

    Google search "hartford courant" & hidden camera and follow the links.


    AMR Needs Time wrote on November 14, 2008 07:06 AM: AMR is delaying work because they have not finished installing the spying devices.

    http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-whdbugs1103.artnov03,0,7347058.story


    Hold On wrote on November 14, 2008 07:02 AM: Hold on, working 48 hours is safe while 72 hours is unsafe? When is the last time you saw someone awake for 48 hours and how did they act?


    Huh? wrote on November 13, 2008 11:43 PM: To someone who knows:
    Perhaps on a majority of calls you may need more than one medic to run a chest pain call, but where I came from, that was rare. Delay patient care? Well if you want to go down that road, why don't we just put a doc on each rig? Money and effeciency, thats why. You don't have two separate rigs and medics go to every call because it might get complicated and you might need extra hands. Of course with the complicated and profit motivated system in Las Vegas, effeciencey and reality take a back seat to realistic medicine.


    John Q Public wrote on November 13, 2008 10:48 PM: 30 min drop policy is a sham, sure you and majority of other medics use it to get out of the hospital, sometimes without ensuring that the patient is getting definitive care. Yes your right, county does NOT transport but city sure does and if Don Earl gets there before you, then it becomes his call. As to being the only medic there, working alone and being able to be comfortable alone does not mean you EGO is huge, it means that you don't require a fire medic to get in your way and disagree and override you because he can't think outside the box. You go anywhere else and its only one set of paramedics be it fire or private and the respective responding counterpart is EMT's. There are issues here between fire medics and privates, the same is true for the greater phoenix metro where Southwest runs with various agencies down there and they have major animosity issues as well. Northern Cali or Northern Az, it's the private EMS medics who run the show and RARELY do you find fire medics on engines. Vegas needs to choose, private medics or public medics, the mix of the two bodes problems. The monopoly issue makes up for all private EMS is now consolidated by EMSC. They do not allow others to bid or even think about transporting code 2 patients in the franchise zone. THAT IS THE MONOPOLY. Take off the rose colored glasses and wake up to the real world, AMR screws employees, Fire screws private EMS. We wouldn't be so short if ILS ran bravos and alphas and RN's ran some charlies and deltas, that and the compliance issues without allowing for time delays is where FIRE screws private.


    Jim wrote on November 13, 2008 09:15 PM: NY Times is ALWAYS beleivable, right...
    I think they are way off base on the average GM salary by about 1/2. Every search I have done has proved them wrong. Google Average GM salary and there is an article from NPR comparing GM vs Toyota. You can see why American auto Builders are failing, we allow it to happen and the unions price folks out of a job. Pay and benefits per hour are in excess of $100K annually. About 4 times the salary of those buying the product.


    someone who knows wrote on November 13, 2008 09:12 PM: We have a 30 min drop policy in this town first off that the fire department is more than happy to comply with. Second, we still have 300 employees that are willing to work and im pretty sure that on a daily basis we dont have 300 of them work anyways. FD will not find the need to transport anymore than usual. As far as FD picking and choosing, its in our contract that city fire can transport, county CAN NOT TAKE CALLS FROM US, if we show up on scene first we get to do whatever we choose to do, its medics that are easy push overs that let FD take patients from them. And if you're a medic who thinks that only your hands are needed on a call then you looking out for your ego not the patient. And it cant be a monopoly since fire transports for profit. Im no slave on scene I have all the respect I need, more times than not FD rides with me. As for HUH? thats some pt advocacy delaying pt care for your neighbors to get to you as where we have them ready at our disposal. And in real fire department cities our ladders ore closer to 1million dollars and rescues are 250plus, have a nice day


    Huh? wrote on November 13, 2008 08:00 PM: I was in the largest volunteer EMS system in the world in NY for 10 years. We didn't have two separate medics show up at scenes. We NEVER found a use for a ladder truck at a chest pain call, nor anyone who could explain the logic behind taking a 1/2 million dollar rig our for such a call. When we needed help, we put a call out and the neighboring medics showed up. Crazy way to do things, huh?


    John Q Public wrote on November 13, 2008 07:20 PM: Look man, I work in this town as well, LVFR can tranport but They do not have anywhere near enough rescues to do it since others will be tied up waiting at the hospital. CCFD can transport but absolutely refuse to even if the patient is in extremis, they would rather wait for AMR or MW. It will probably be more than 50 or 60 because the rest are afraid of John Wilson and the various idiotic supervisors. Yes you are right, Medic 1 is the most progressive in the states. LAZY paramedics are the ones who rely on more than one set of hands to help with criticals, others in the nation can do their basic stuff alone with EMT and still be transporting in under 8 minutes of scene time. The monopoly will come to an end eventually if it's now or later, AMR will lose out. Yes 90% of calls are EMS, but when fire is to lazy to transport, then why have them around. They only take over calls when someone gets shot and order you to get in the back of their rescue to transport making you their slave for the call. What a way to go huh?


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