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Two school closings weighed

District budget could require reassigning students

Parents at the Mount Charleston public school under threat of closure don't want their young children spending three hours on a bus every day, riding to and from a school in Indian Springs.

Clark County School Board President Terri Janison, who represents the rural community, agrees with their point. But Clark County School District staff faced with dwindling state revenues are recommending closing both Lundy Elementary School on Mount Charleston and Goodsprings Elementary School near the California border because the cost of operating the rural campuses in a time of increasing economic distress is difficult to justify.


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  • It's an issue that School Board members may act on at their 4 p.m. meeting today.

    Janison has asked district staff to look at transportation alternatives, but did not say what position she'll take on the larger issue of closing the rural schools. School Board Member Carolyn Edwards, who represents the Goodsprings area, acknowledged that closing the schools would be heart-rending.

    Edwards has not decided how she will vote. "I'm really conflicted on this one," she said.

    Rose Getler, president of the Lundy Elementary School Parent Teacher Organization, said the suggestion makes no sense and blamed district leadership for allowing the situation to reach this point.

    "Our kids are paying the price of their inability to run the district efficiently," Getler said.

    Lundy educates nine students at a cost of $21,751 each. Goodsprings educates six students at $21,509 each.

    In comparison, the cost of educating a student at an urban school is about $7,000, according to district reports. The rural schools are so expensive because there are "no economies of scale," said Jim McIntosh, the district's budget director.

    Costs per student increase by another $3,000 to $5,000 when maintenance and utility costs are factored in for Lundy and Goodsprings. Based on figures provided by the district, it spends about $239,643 to operate Lundy and $147,564 for Goodsprings.

    Because the district has a budget of $2.1 billion, the savings from the closings seems relatively small, parents said.

    They also dispute the district's figures on the cost of operations, since each school has only one full-time teacher and two or three part-time assistants.

    Eric Snyder, the father of two small children he wants to attend Lundy, contends the Mount Charleston school is self-funded because of the high property taxes paid by residents there.

    "All we want is to keep our tiny schoolhouse open," Snyder said.

    Because real estate loses an estimated 25 percent of its value whenever an area school closes, Snyder said the district could lose future revenue.

    Amie Brown, a parent at Lundy, also said families are willing to make sacrifices to keep the school open.

    "Our time, our money, whatever it takes to make it work," Brown said. "We are also willing to do custodial as well, whatever is necessary, really."

    Harley Lloyd, an alumnus and father of Goodsprings students, said the sense of the community in the rural areas will be diminished if the schools close.

    The blow is felt keenly in Goodsprings, where the school dates back to 1913. Julie Newberry, a former teacher at Goodsprings, said the school is believed to be one of the oldest, if not the oldest, in Nevada.

    Edwards acknowledged that "there's a lot of history there."

    District officials have not announced what they plan to do with the schools should they be closed.

    Edwards said the district has approached both Clark County and the Las Vegas-Clark County Library District about taking over the Goodsprings school property, but neither seemed to be interested.

    Parents seem most irate when busing elementary school students is mentioned.

    District staff argue that Lundy and Goodsprings students could fill existing seats on buses that now transport older children in their communities to Sandy Valley and Indian Springs for middle school and high school.

    Sandy Valley is 14 miles from Goodsprings and Indian Springs is 43 miles from Mount Charleston.

    "We think it's a disgrace to put an elementary school child on the bus with middle school (students) and teenagers," Getler said. "They're all on the same bus for upwards of an hour and a half (one way)."

    Contact reporter James Haug at jhaug@reviewjournal.com or 702-799-2922.

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    douglas wrote on January 22, 2009 05:26 PM: as to the proposed, approved, "condo project", why would anyone assume that those units would add primary grade students ? most of the residences at least in this subdivision are second homes, not occupied except occasionally on weekends.

    and again, that dwindling number of lundy students will have to be transported to some down the mountain school after they finish the primary grades. to some "middle" or high school. thus the "inconvenience" of sending the bambinos elsewhere is temporary.

    to be consistent, then the mountain residents with school aged children must demand facilities for middle and high school instruction as well.


    chill wrote on January 22, 2009 05:15 PM: What do you expect when you live in the middle of nowhere. There is always a home school option available. If you are driving to Vegas, find a school to drop them off. I love the comment about how the county is good at taking away. Rural communities recieve way more than they put into the system. If your reason for moving away from society was to get away from people, this is a perfect opportunity to really stay away from us city dwellers.


    larry wrote on January 22, 2009 04:28 PM: Reggie consider the low enrollment, the numbers would be sewed if a single kid left. Also, parents who don’t want to harm their kids by putting them through the avoidable trauma of the several hour commute to Indian Springs look and find permanent solutions before they are forced to Indian hell at private or home schools. This lowers the return rate to the school. There are options but so far it has been one sided, you close the school and we get no help, very disappointing.



    Larry wrote on January 22, 2009 04:20 PM: Could we bus some kids up to the school from the NW valley. Many parents would jump at the chance to enroll at a small rural school?

    The Busses are already rolling, it would drop the per student cost to the average.



    Reggie wrote on January 22, 2009 04:17 PM: Dear SaveOurSchools;

    Please read Telly's 11:44 post! Seems smaller doesn't equate to "excellent" at least as far as test scores are concerned.

    As for 6 months in a small school being equal to 2 years in a large one, I note the transient rate of 65% up there on Mt. Charleston, which tells me that most of the students there don't stay long!


    larry wrote on January 22, 2009 04:14 PM: NVR$life

    I would do just that if I could take my kid to the closer schools at the bottom of the hill and not to Indian Springs. I drive to and from Vegas everyday, giving me the option to take my kid to a closer more convenient school would be an acceptable common sense compromise.

    Indian Springs is not a solution for us, whether I’m on the mountain or in Vegas a trip to Indian Springs is an hour away at best, in the case of an emergency, missed bus or illness that is too far.

    Many of us on the mountain are willing to do our part but we do not get any help from the other side.

    And the county is very good at taking thinks away from the mountain but very bad at giving back.

    We also need to consider there is a condo projects in the plans in both Kyle and Lee canyon which would raise enrolment. Once the school is closed it will never reopen without a WRITTEN guarantee from the school board.


    douglas wrote on January 22, 2009 04:09 PM: the "special tax assessment" is a great idea as long as the tax is levied *only* on the users of the services provided by the lundy facility.

    that means if you want to enroll your bambinos at lundy, you step up to the plate and write the check. making the "village" pay for your choice is the same as requiring the "village" to pay for your pets, garden, home maintenance, or gambling.


    nvr4life wrote on January 22, 2009 03:40 PM: What makes your kids more special than any other kid that justify's nevada spending $21,000.00 for when they spend $7,000.00 on every other child?

    Carpool in your exspensive, safe,4X4 SUV and take the kids to Indian Springs yourselves if your affraid of busses!


    Lundy School wrote on January 22, 2009 03:07 PM: Busing the kids down the hill in the winter is a safety issue. I would propose that a special tax assessment district allow for the good residents of Mt Charlston to pay anything over the average CCSD per pupil costs. The kids stay on the mountain and the valley residents don't get hit with the costs


    douglas wrote on January 22, 2009 01:51 PM: that inefficient, relatively costly "branches" must be closed is no different than post offices. seems to me that for about 6 months, back in the '60's, there was a small post office in rainbow subdivision.

    perhaps those who have pupils in lundy should add the lack of a usps post office to their demands.

    and similarly those citizens near the closing albertsons supermarkets should demand that they remain open.

    as to indian springs, unless those mt chas residents with bambinos plan on limiting their cildrens' education to equal jethro bodine's [6th grade}, they'll have to be sent to indian springs after matriculation from lundy. or, "home schooled", leastwise until the "change" regime mirrors california with new regs prohibiting it.


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