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HIGH-TECH TROUBLE: Card-counting application for iPhones sees sales spike

Using program in Nevada casinos is illegal, regulator warns

Nevada gaming regulators hoped to freeze sales of a blackjack card-counting application for iPhones by telling the world the software could convert the high-tech phone into an electronic cheating device.

So much for that idea: The announcement had the opposite effect.


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  • Travis Yates, an Australian software designer who developed the Blackjack Card Counter application that uses four different strategies, said his sales were averaging about 10 per day at $4.99 a pop on the iTunes Application Store.

    The day after the Review-Journal reported on the regulators' Feb. 5 warning to casino operators to be on the watch for patrons using the device, sales for the application jumped to 500 in the United States alone and Yates cut the price to $2.49.

    By Wednesday, after CNN, The Associated Press, Fox News, MSNBC and other national and international media outlets reported on the card-counting program, Yates said sales topped 1,400. He's reduced the price to 99 cents, hoping the program makes the top 10 sales list for all iPhone applications.

    Maybe Nevada, in the depths of a budget crisis, should have asked for a piece of the action.

    "We put this out there for the public because we were concerned an uninformed tourist could get themselves in trouble by using this program," Control Board member Randy Sayre said. "We haven't detected anyone using the device yet in Nevada, but there needs to be awareness."

    Sayre believes the gaming industry is just beginning to see a new wave of technology that could assist in cheating activities. Several variations of electronic cheating devices have been tried on slot machines.

    "We're facing this stuff on a daily basis," Sayre said. "There have been tremendous technological advances in the (casino) industry. There are always going to be some folks trying to defeat it."

    Card counting is not illegal in Nevada casinos. However, using a device to aid in the counting of cards is considered a felony under Nevada laws governing cheating.

    Sayre said his main concern was that casino customers may not realize they are doing something illegal by gambling with the iPhone application, which calculates the true count as the player enters the value of a card as it is drawn from the deck.

    Sayre said it is up to individual casino officials to decide whether they want to ban iPhones from gaming tables. In fact, Sayre said, customers caught using the application to cheat could be detained by casino operators and arrested by state gaming agents.

    "There is a concern for the industry," Sayre said. "We know this is a popular device and we've seen a lot of people downloading the program. We just don't want an innocent customer sitting down at a table and exposing themselves to a felony charge."

    Yates, 35 and a resident of Carns in Northern Queensland, said in an e-mail Wednesday he didn't develop the card-counting program for use in a casino, although the application does feature a "stealth mode" button that allows the user to quickly remove the card-counting information from the screen.

    "I never intended it for to be used in a casino," Yates said. "It's really just for people to play with at home with their friends. I certainly wouldn't risk using it in a casino myself."

    Yates operates a Web site development service called webtopia.com.au. He also creates "entertainment" applications for the Apple iPhone, which hit the market in 2007 and has numerous capabilities.

    "I've been a bit of a gambler on and off for a few years," Yates said. "I have a bachelor of applied science (in) mathematics with honors in statistics so I like calculating odds. Although I've never been a card counter myself, with my background it's always been the type of thing that interests me."

    Yates said he thought a card-counting application could easily be developed for the iPhone. His first variation took about a day to create.

    The attention the application created has surprised him. He hired a public relations firm to help handle the media interest. He's given interviews in both Australia and the United States. Australia casino operators were also warned by government regulators to watch out for the card-counting program.

    Sayre said the control board is taking a close look at the program internally.

    Contact reporter Howard Stutz at hstutz@reviewjournal.com or 702-477-3871.

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    Joe Bama wrote on February 21, 2009 12:56 AM: It's simple if you are winning they know you are cheating. I quit playing table games 5 years ago no fun when you can't even get a little run going.


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    douglas wrote on February 20, 2009 09:35 PM: having a "van" with wireless communication to a casino guest will draw goodly attention. certain joints actively monitor for radio traffic. others broadcast white noise.

    some years back there was an interesting scam involving a van, on board computer, and a player's mini-camera aimed with an infrared beam. the game was baccarat. a few casinos admitted to 6 figure losses after the scam was detected.


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    Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on February 20, 2009 08:15 PM: CLEARLY, we need the ACLU to protect us from the likes of Control Board compensator Randy Sayre.

    CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and even Sayres favorite idiot channel, Fox "News" have been alerted and all will be online!

    I, Fair and Balanced Fred, have been advanced $50,000 dollars to go from Strip casino-to-casino, with cameras rolling and myself fully wired for sound, with huge concealed-carry thugs escort, way meaner than any retiree, early morning casino security, to challenge this law.

    Cameras and audio will be rolling, and this time, former Sheriff Bill Young won't be able to erase the videotape like he did with the Crissy Mazzeo thing.

    Our van will be broadcasting live to multiple outlets and personnel including the most senior ACLU lawyers around the country for immediate commentary and legal defense.

    I'll be using my superior intelligence to count cards as well as my fingers and my iPhone.

    Let Randy Sayre decide which of my processes is a F-E-L-O-N-E-Y.

    Let's hear it for Randy's short career with the Commission!


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    Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on February 20, 2009 07:50 PM: Hey, if I use the "counting on my fingers" technique to keep track of the shuffle, is that use of my fingers-device a F-E-L-O-N-E-Y?

    Randy Sayre, hey big man, Randy Sayre of the Control Board. ANSWER THAT ONE!

    Heh, heh.

    Big wussy.


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    Yeah, right wrote on February 20, 2009 07:26 PM: Yeah, right, it is criminal for a player to use an electronic device to count cards, but it is legal for a Casino to use an electronic device to count and alert them when to stack the deck, (shuffle up).


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    Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on February 20, 2009 05:23 PM: "rmolnar": Why is iPhone card-counting a felony rather as opposed to simply barring iPhone card-counters from playing blackjack? How many times do I need to repeat this question?

    The iPhone user is not getting "secret" casino information that any card-counter would not get. Therefore, I maintain the iPhone user is not cheating, but this point is moot.

    Just bar iPhones instead of spreading propaganda fear. Anyway, all this publicity is great for the program writer's business.


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    Douglas in Las Vegas wrote on February 20, 2009 04:43 PM: Although this may be a great training aid. however given the operational aspects (be they visual and manual) of the iPhone and the input/output required... the writer, Howard Stutz used the appropriate picture with his article. An iPhone laying on the game...when was the last time a casino let a cellular telephone or any other device sit out. Let alone someone standing behind or next to a player, type away and call out strategy.

    Great training aid but poor live game support unless you are looking for a little extra attention. I like it and would use it to practice.


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    moxiejkk wrote on February 20, 2009 12:20 PM: rmolnar: You are missing the point. To use your analogy, if the calculations are themselves legal, then what difference does it make HOW we make them? It's one thing for casinos to disallow these devices, but I completely agree that the government should be involved in this one.


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    rmolnar wrote on February 20, 2009 11:58 AM: Fred: If there is no difference doing calculations with a calculator or in your head, why do we need calculators?


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    douglas wrote on February 20, 2009 11:38 AM: @ $4.99 it's a whole lot cheaper than those brogans with the buttons inside.

    what is amusing is that player aided mechanisms... simple observation, brains, gift shop basic strategy cards on to hal9000 may all be considered prohibited "devices". however, player & *remaining deck content tracking* [card reading shoes] displaying to pit staff, "out of line" decks, are "okay". add in embedded checques for monitoring player wager variations and the "game" is no longer *random*. nor is it ethically conducted.

    what happened to honor at the gcb ?

    of course, these are the same riff raff who refuse to disclose their [lack of policy] regarding licensee employment of illegal infiltrators. they however do find time to levy those "game protecting" fines... the $10,000 per minor waiting in line at the hilton for the star trek attraction to open. another beauty was the >1 million dollar fine stabbing the then owner of the imperial palace because he offered free passes to see hitler's car on hitler's birthday. and who can forget pulling the ticket on the lady owner of the nevada casino because she "stowed away", though ticketed, on an airline ?


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