Too_many_socialists wrote on May 20, 2009 10:29 PM: Lots of political/economic ignorance out there. Try reading Hayek's Road To Serfdom. Your Marxian association of Nazi fascism with capitalism was debunked by Von Mises in Omnipotent Government (1944). He properly identified Nazism with SOCIALISM. wiki gives a pretty good overview of Nazi opposition to capitalism.

You big government supporters just can't accept the fact that your ideology -- whether promulgated by the left or the right, ultimately lead to destruction. You Marxists can't get beyond your idiotic "class struggle" mentality. The fact is that capitalism brings people closer together. Nations that trade with one another don't make war on each other. Bad for business, you know.

CD wrote on May 20, 2009 10:21 PM: Fascism is an ultra-ring wing political philosophy of government. Fascism does not necessarily equate to the type of economic system a nation embraces (i.e. fascists are not necessarily socialists). Two completely separate subjects.

Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on May 20, 2009 09:34 PM: Thanks for your political science scholarship.

Please cite as many credible references as possible supporting your wild assertion.

The cons can't lead, so they consistently mislead.

The Big Lie died with Hitler. The cons never got the memo.

Too_many_socialists wrote on May 20, 2009 08:28 PM: Sorry, but the Nazis WERE socialists. Try reading some economic history instead of left-wing fairy tales.

Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on May 20, 2009 08:18 PM: Never, ever, believe anything a con tells you. They are sociopathic, compulsive liars.

The cons cant lead, so they consistently mislead.

Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on May 20, 2009 08:05 PM: More wisdom for the unwashed neo-cons, Republicons, and all other cons:

"Once in power, Hitler showed his true colors by promptly breaking all his promises to workers. The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the "Labor Front" replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers. According to the law that created it, "Its task is to see that every individual should be able… to perform the maximum of work." Workers would indeed greatly boost their productivity under Nazi rule. But they also became exploited. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor. Yet workers did not protest. This was partly because the Nazis had restored order to the economy, but an even bigger reason was that the Nazis would have cracked down on any protest."

THE CONS HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON WITH THE NAZI'S. REMEMBER. THE CONS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. THEY ARE COMPULSIVE LIARS WITH CON DISORDER, A SUBTYPE OF SOCIOPATHIC PERSONALITY DISORDER, AND CANNOT TELL THE TRUTH. NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A CON.

Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on May 20, 2009 08:02 PM: Below, "Too_much_government" sez:

"Keep in mind that the Nazi meant National Socialist. Granted, Nazism was a very aggressive form of Socialism."

What an idiot. What a fool. The cons can't lead, so they continuously mislead:

"Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named 'National Socialist.' But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production. In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state. True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, 'common sense' over science, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.

"To most people, Hitler's beliefs belong to the extreme far right. For example, most conservatives believe in patriotism and a strong military; carry these beliefs far enough, and you arrive at Hitler's warring nationalism. This association has long been something of an embarrassment to the far right. To deflect such criticism, conservatives have recently launched a counter-attack, claiming that Hitler was a socialist, and therefore belongs to the political left.

"The primary basis for this claim is that Hitler was a National Socialist. However, there is no academic controversy over the status of this term: it was a misnomer. Misnomers are quite common in the history of political labels. The true question is not whether Hitler called hisparty 'socialist,' but whether or not it actually was."

Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on May 20, 2009 07:50 PM: Who said anything about slavery? The cons can't lead, so they continuously mislead. Who said anything about slavery?

Here's what I posted, which the cons twisted into "slavery":

"I want a return to the good old days when all was well and 'coloreds' could not drink from the same drinking fountains, use the same bathrooms, or swim in the same pools as good, natural white people. Because we all know, whitely-ness is next to Godliness. It's a fact. I read it in the Bible, or somewhere. Anyway, that's the way it used to be. There must have been a reason for it.

"Same thing with gays. They are inherently defective and dirty, and we must immediately post signs on all drinking fountains, lunch counters, bathrooms and swimming pools designating 'Straight' and 'Heathen'.

"Because only the good Lord knows what you might catch from a colored or gay person. Right?

"Bad cooties."

THE CONS CAN'T LEAD, SO THEY CONSISTENTLY MISLEAD. AREN'T YOU TIRED OF BEING MISLED BY THE NEO-CONS, REPUBLICONS, AND ALL OTHER CONS?

"Slavery".

CONS. THEY ABSOLUTELY DISGUST ME AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO REGARD FOR THE TRUTH. CON PERSONALITY DISORDER IS A SUBTYPE OF SOCIOPATHIC PERSONALITY DISORDER.

Segregated lunch counters, drained and sanitized swimming pools, segregated lunch counters and public restrooms have nothing to do with slavery.

The cons can't lead, so they consistently mislead.

Shannon wrote on May 20, 2009 03:55 PM: Like I said before, if the shoe fits...

prej·u·dice (prj-ds)
n.
1.
a. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
b. A preconceived preference or idea.
2. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
3. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
4. Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.

That's not name-calling, that's a fact.

Jonna wrote on May 20, 2009 03:38 PM: bigot - a person who is prejudiced in their vows and intolerant of the opinions of others.

I know I'm gonna get reamed for this, but I am a white, female, Christian Republican. I have not spoken out against the gay marriage issue because on a human level I'm torn over it. However, I don't believe in this particular bill as it allows heterosexual couples to live as married without formally being married. If hetero couples want the same "benefits" as married couples(tax hits included) then let them take the plunge. I also don't believe that we need more government (especially in our bedrooms). I don't believe our current government that is supposed to be by the people and for the people is necessarily in touch with the people. Those are my opinions. I take responsibility for my government, I am a constituent and when I feel my voice needs to be heard I take it to my Senator, Congressman, Assemblyman, Councilman, Commissioner or whomever the proper person would be. Most times I am just a small voice that is ignored, but at least I know I tried. As a Christian I try my best not to sit in judgment of others, however, I am human and I do make mistakes. I don't use my religion as a way to make myself an authority. I am extremely tired of whenever an opinion is expressed that is not in line with the another's the first person is automatically labeled as a bigot - who is the bigger bigot the one being labeled or the one labeling? What I love about this country is that for now, I am still free to express my opinion.

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