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ACLU files motion, urges different judge in case of readers' online comments

Request part of fight over identities behind Web posts

Kent Dawson should not be -- in the view of the ACLU -- the federal judge hearing its request to stop federal prosecutors from tracing the identities of two Review-Journal readers whose online comments might be considered threats of violence against jurors or prosecutors in the criminal tax trial of Robert Kahre.

The civil-rights organization on Monday filed a new motion, asking Dawson to recuse, so the matter can go to another judge.


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  • While Dawson was presiding at the 2005 trial of nationally known tax protester Irwin Schiff -- who was convicted and is serving time -- the judge received protection from the U.S. Marshals Service after getting trial-related threats, said the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada. That history suggests a potential bias, so Dawson should step aside, according to the new motion.

    "The central issue is whether these (Kahre-related) comments rise to the level of threat," said Margaret McLetchie, a staff attorney for the ACLU. "When he's received alleged threats from similar sorts of people in a case on similar sorts of issues, it might be hard" for him to satisfy onlookers that he is impartial.

    On Monday, the ACLU amended its existing motion -- assigned to Dawson for hearing -- by adding a fourth anonymous client. All contend they posted anonymously on the newspaper's Web site and feel threatened by the subpoenas received by the newspaper.

    The revised ACLU motion clarifies that it seeks to quash also the second federal grand jury subpoena issued to the newspaper, which demanded identifying information on only two writers.

    One of them called jury members "dummies" and said they should be "hung" if they convict Kahre. The other wanted to bet that one of the prosecutors would not live to his next birthday.

    The newspaper resisted an earlier, broad subpoena requesting identifying data on all readers who had posted comments below its May 26 article about the start of the Kahre trial.

    More than 220 readers had posted below the article as of Monday, many of them using pseudonyms to protect their privacy. The majority of online comments side with Kahre, against the federal government and the IRS.

    Kahre and three others are accused of evading federal taxes and conspiring to obstruct the Internal Revenue Service by devising a payroll system that paid workers in gold and silver coins according to the coins' investment value, but suggested using the coins' much lower face value for tax purposes.

    The original ACLU motion to quash referred only to the first, broader subpoena. The newspaper has agreed to comply with the second subpoena.

    McLetchie applauded the Review-Journal's willingness to fight the original, sweeping subpoena.

    But, she added, because other future parties may not be as willing to publicize their dilemma if they receive what they consider to be an unfair subpoena -- grand jury business is usually kept secret -- the ACLU is still seeking a judge to rule on "whether the U.S. attorney's office crossed a line when it comes to the First Amendment," which guarantees freedom of expression.

    The Monday filing asserts a second cause for Dawson to step aside: the fact that several years ago he recused himself from the criminal trial of Kahre and his co-defendants, now before U.S. District Judge David Ezra. An appearance of bias could arise if Dawson hears the present motion which indirectly involves Kahre, the filing contends.

    Contact reporter Joan Whitely at jwhitely@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0268.

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    COME AND GET ME wrote on June 23, 2009 09:35 PM: Judge Dawson not only is a mormon but he has ruled against other citizens in tax related cases and cases involving marking children with Social Security numbers against the religious objections of their parents. He was over ruled by the 9th circuit later on. He is a pro-government, pro-prosecution judge who has shown time and time again his distain for those who choose to challenge the government and its unconstitutional laws. He does not respect free speech or the citizens right to redress his government.

    I hope the ACLU is successful in having him removed from hearing the case. He should be placed in the same out box that Judge Jones was placed in after the first Kahre case.

    Of the 3 branches of government the judicial branch is the one that is most in need of a serious overhauling. We need to stop electing state judges and stop giving federal ones life time appointments. No one should be able to make a life time career out of being a prosecutor or a judge.

    Citizens need to start demanding and asserting some control over this branch of government. There needs to be some place that the citizens can go to to have their complaints heard against them. Judges should not have immunity from being sued and should be held accountable for the decisions that they make. To often they rule based on their own beliefs and values instead of the merits of the case. Mormon judges are especially prone to doing this. They believe it is their duty to impose their ridged set of standards on the community at large.

    This is the reason the founders believed so strongly in the separation of church and state. Religious people can participate in government but no government religion can be established.


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    the mormons are more powerful than the constitution, and can over throw free speech with majority ? wrote on June 23, 2009 10:02 AM:
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    the mormons have wore out this place so bad!










    you can't make up this stuff they pull out of their a $$ on a daily basis here in vegas


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    Tin foil wrote on June 23, 2009 08:47 AM: Put your tin foil hats on, the thought police are out in full force.
    You said Green, but they know you meant Red.


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    Mormon Lover wrote on June 23, 2009 07:36 AM: Judge Dawson should recuse himself if only because he is a Mormon, like prosecutor Greg Damm.

    He looks like a member of the Gadianton Robber Mormons (Helaman 6:38) so he could be a member of the Mormon Mafia like Greg Damm and Judge Jones, Dawson's church buddies.

    Judge Dawson is a proud Socialist/ worshiper of Marx and defender of Communism as his past rulings, like in the Irwin Schiff trial, have made clear. He will defend his beloved Communist Religion (2nd plank) no matter what the law or the prophets of his church say.

    Too bad Dawson doesn't follow the prophets of Mormonism but instead Dawson protects his TRUE religion and the 2nd plank of the Communist Manifesto, income taxes.

    "Communism is in reality a form of religion." Bruce R. McConkie

    "The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God's work among men that exists on the face of the earth.
    The entire concept and philosophy of Communism is diametrically opposed to everything for which the Church stands." David O. McKay

    “Communism is Satan’s counterfeit for the gospel plan, and it is an avowed enemy of the God of the land. Communism is the greatest anti-Christ power in the world today and therefore the greatest menace not only to our peace but to our preservation as a free people. By the extent to which we tolerate, accommodate ourselves to it, permit ourselves to be encircled by its tentacles and drawn to it, to that extent we forfeit the protection of the God of this land.” First Presidency Message

    Helaman6:38 Dawson and Damm have come down "to believe in their works and partake of their spoils" and support America's "awful situation." Ether 8:24


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    potential juror wrote on June 23, 2009 07:26 AM: I am a potential juror here and for once in my 23 years of living in Las Vegas I hope they pick me as a juror.
    Having read the first article and all of the original blogs I was actually surprised to hear that the comments contained anything but normal Internet noise. However, I am totally fascinated by the shear fact that someone can argue the tax value of anything! Especially labor, taxing labor is just wrong!


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    VegasSmitty wrote on June 23, 2009 07:23 AM: ACLU = All Criminals Love Us


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    El wrote on June 23, 2009 07:06 AM: The first amendment gives you the right to free speech, it does not shield you from responsibility. Would these commenters in question have made these threatening remarks had they not felt they were hidden behind a cloak of anonymity? Probably not. By making these ignorant threats did it ever occur to them that they may be trampling on someone elses rights? Does their right to free speech trump someone elses righ to due process?


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    Miles Monroe wrote on June 23, 2009 06:15 AM: Ultimately this will land in the hands of the grand jury to evaluate. Let's hope that there is a scintilla of common sense left in their collective consciousness and that they'll see this for what it is.

    Honestly, if you can't get a conviction based upon the evidence take your lumps and go home. Thousands upon thousands of Americans gave their lives to allow these cretins the ability to utter their inane ramblings. Don't desicrate their sacrifice.


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    vegasdomar wrote on June 23, 2009 05:17 AM: To think so many of us fought and died for the right of free speech and the other amendments which are under constant attack.
    The people doing this are our children and grand children.
    This alone makes a good case for birth control.