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JOHN L. SMITH: Notion of Victorville-to-Vegas rail route mind-boggling to skeptics

If rival promoters of high-speed Southern-California-to-Southern-Nevada rail systems think they're challenged by financing and politics, that's nothing compared with the mountain of skepticism they'll have to overcome.

Dozens of those skeptics contacted me after a recent column on the possibility a proposal by either the DesertXpress or the American Magline group eventually emerging the victor for the route that could possibly bring millions of Vegas visitors a year from Southern California.


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  • Criticism of the DesertXpress plan focused on its Victorville-to-Vegas route.

    Writes one, "When is the last time you heard someone say, 'Gee, I think I'll go to Victorville for vacation.' Never. And to expect someone to pay to rent a car, then drive at least an hour to LA or wherever someone actually would want to visit, drive all the way back to Victorville, and then hop on a train back to there is ludicrous."

    Adds Fred Jones, "Isn't the idea of a train from Las Vegas to Victorville right up there with the Neonopolis and some of the other totally nutty ideas our elected officials have come up with (think Main Street Station, New City Hall, Mob Museum just to mention a few)?"

    And a third: "I would love to ride a train to Southern California, but not a train that ends in Victorville. When I drove from Los Angeles to Las Vegas for years, the worst part of the drive was to I-15 then over Cajon Pass into Victorville. Once we reached Victorville we considered the rest of the trip to be easy."

    Kenneth Record made a solid argument for bringing back Amtrak service to Las Vegas, where the Desert Breeze once made regular stops.

    "The old route of the Desert Breeze remains blank," Record says. "Las Vegas will be the largest metropolitan area not served by a 79 mph line."

    (A batch of entertaining letters on this and other topics will be published today on my blog at lvrj.com.)

    TEA TIME: Dr. Joe Heck, who continues to work to illustrate his conservative credentials as he campaigns for governor against a conservative incumbent, joins the Independence Day Tea Party planned for 10 a.m. today at Desert Breeze Park at 8275 Spring Mountain Road.

    Former North Las Vegas Mayor Michael Montandon has also declared his candidacy on the Republican side against Gov. Jim Gibbons.

    NLV COUNCIL: Community activist Richard Cherchio is the favorite to receive newly elected North Las Vegas Mayor Shari Buck's Ward 4 City Council seat, a reliable source tells me.

    Cherchio isn't a lifelong North Las Vegas resident, but he's established himself as a credible activist in just a few years. Buck easily defeated Cherchio and others in her April 2007 re-election. She won 57 percent of the vote. Cherchio received 24 percent.

    SUN GUN GONE: Las Vegas Sun Deputy Managing Editor Drex Heikes, who edited the newspaper's Pulitzer Prize-winning project, is leaving to become the editor of the LA Weekly. Heikes, a favorite with several of the Sun's top reporters, will be hard to replace.

    RUVO INSTITUTE: Whether she's forwarding her philosophy of new approaches to public education or weighing in on behalf of a nonprofit organization, no one can doubt Maureen Peckman's energy and dedication to the task at hand.

    Now she's been named the chief executive officer of Keep Memory Alive in its association with the Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health downtown. She formerly served as Keep Memory Alive's chief operating officer.

    ON THE BOULEVARD: Former Clark County Commissioner Dario Herrera was recently spotted at Kabuki Japanese Restaurant at Town Square. Herrera gets his mail these days at a local halfway house after serving a majority of his 50-month federal prison sentence following a political corruption conviction.

    BOULEVARD II: Remember the name Dr. Stanley Lowenbraun. He's the former Louisville oncologist who ran up millions in gambling debts to Las Vegas casinos, was a slave to his addiction, and according to the Louisville Courier-Journal committed suicide June 20 at the Las Vegas Hilton.

    BOULEVARD III: Now that word is out the IRS is investigating the cash-for-customers business involving local strip clubs and cab and limo drivers, I hear several clubs are rapidly improving their bookkeeping skills.

    John L. Smith's column appears Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. E-mail him at Smith@reviewjournal.com or call (702) 383-0295. He also blogs at lvrj.com/blogs/smith/.

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    Richard Franklin wrote on July 04, 2009 08:31 PM: Running a 20th Century beefed up steel wheeled method of transportation would be on par with other juiced in political moves like our failing monorail that slithers through the back door of the strip, except to the right place, the front door. For that reason no one rides it. Magnetic Levitation is a US invention that has been further developed by the Germans and the Japanese. Now the Chinese and Koreans are jumping on. The destination should be direct from Orange County or the San Fernando Valley. Future expansion could tie in with the RR corridor down the Pacific Coast. The right of way is there. Mag Lev is elevated. It could run above existing Interstate or RR routes. Supports for an elevated track would have less of an environmental impact than a railroad bed.
    For someone who has lived in Southern Nevada my entire life and driven to the LA area more than I can remember. Why would I drive to Victorville? The hard part of the drive is from LA, Orange County, etc to Victorville. From Victorville to Las Vegas is the easy part of the drive.
    Instead of Political Connections a thorough marketing and environmental impact study need's to be done.
    Vegas to Victorville is not sound thinking. It may be faster to construct but is it the better option. Will it go unused as the current monorail is today? We need to get our head out of the sand box.


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    half the story wrote on July 03, 2009 09:25 PM: It would go to Victorville for the 1st 2 years then to Anahiem and LA! This is only telling half the story.


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    glass is half full wrote on July 03, 2009 08:58 PM: Wow, two proposals to get las vegas connected by rail and all the comments here are negative. . . . you people are simple & short-term minded.

    I grew up in Europe where rail is king, you can travel almost anywhere (across countries) on the cheap - it took decades and many failures but the infrastructure is world class.

    Gas prices will only get worse, we need an alternative - in 15 years when it will cost $150 in gas to get to lax, you will be happy to have a rail line.


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    Victorville? are you nuts wrote on July 03, 2009 07:56 PM: I am sure Harry Reids pockets or his goofy son Rory's pockets are being lined by someone to support a train that ends in Victorville. Here we go again.
    Look at the Monorail, if it went to the airport and to all of the casino's or made a loop around vegas, it would be a huge success.
    Oops then the taxi cab authority wouldn't need as many employees, and we wouldn't have as many cabs on the street and then.......... I think you get the picture here. Too many special interests and no common sense.
    Hmmmm I better stay out of politics, if they cant figure this out. Then again, common sense isn't so common after all


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    GD wrote on July 03, 2009 06:02 PM: I was thinking of taking my wife to Victorville for a -7- day holiday for $50 each or fly to LAX on Southwest for $39 --- What do you think we should do?

    Would you people "PLEASE STOP VOTING FOR HARRY REID" --- Hasn't this do nothing Senator hurt Nevada enough?

    Aren't you people embarassed by Harry? I certainly am. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.


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    AngryGovtOverLord wrote on July 03, 2009 05:30 PM: Don't worry, SoCal people will be flocking here on that train to visit the Springs Preserve.

    We promise! Trust Us!


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    Texas Brand wrote on July 03, 2009 04:23 PM: It is naive to think that at some point tax dollars will have to be spent to save this project. The easist part of the drive from Las Vegas to L.A. or San Diego is from here to Victorville. What good is a train that ends there. Let me see I can drive my entire family to Disney for a hundred dollars round trip. Or, buy three round trip tickets ($100.00 each) rent a car for four days ($150.00). Not finacially sound to take the train. It it was someone would have built it by now. Harry Reid your days as a Senator are coming to an end because of stupid ideas like this. There is not one rail system in this country that does not use tax dollars and this one will not be any different. Think AMTRAK


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    Too_much_government wrote on July 03, 2009 03:06 PM: The government is already big enough, thank you very much. We don't need it getting into the high-tech travel business. Please don't fall for the sales pitch. The special interests will lowball construction costs and fares, over-estimate ridership and service frequency, glamorize the technology, etc. They won't tell you who's making the bond fees, getting the foodcourt concessions, how much those prevailing wage construction workers (or their politically connected employers) are making etc. Besides, the federal government has NO constitutional authority to operate a maglev train, unless it's carrying ammo to/from a munitions depot.


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    Scott wrote on July 03, 2009 02:31 PM: Can you say Mono-rail not built out to the airport, put on the far east side of the strip, and lacking certain critical stops? Didn't it just default? Same fate for this train. A reasonable idea (the high speed train/the monorail) turned into a disaster in execution.


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    Tom Shively wrote on July 03, 2009 02:28 PM: Wouldn't you know that Harry Reid is promoting this nutty Victorville to LAS train. Maybe we could link it up with the Monorail that he so highly touted a few years ago. The joint lines could tank together as the train to and from nowhere.


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