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DOUG ELFMAN: UFC 100: Lesnar's boorish behavior bothers Mir






Frank Mir says Brock Lesnar embarrassed his sport -- and embarrassed Mir's children -- by going on a tirade of spit and trash-talking after beating Mir at Saturday's UFC 100.

Mir is already planning to train for a "rubber match" rematch.


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  • And Mir is not impressed that Lesnar later apologized for being a sore winner, since he did so only after UFC head Dana White scolded him for vamping like a WWE wrestler.

    Mir tells me: "That's like: You steal a guy's bike, your dad kicks your ass, and then you apologize only because your dad kicked your ass. How genuine is that?"

    "I don't buy it," Mir said Sunday, after I called the Vegas native and informed him of Lesnar's apology.

    At issue: The UFC is a brutal but gentlemanly sport. Yes, guys pin each other down in a sort of missionary position, then rain down furious fists on bloody faces.

    But White, fans and media want winners and losers to be good sports. Usually, they are, since respect is a Zen code in mixed martial arts.

    Lesnar, who went from top college wrestler to WWE wrestler to UFC heavyweight champ, broke that code from start to finish.

    Lesnar, 32, went into the match with a grudge. Mir, 30, had beat Lesnar in February 2008. On Saturday, Lesnar wouldn't tap gloves with Mir before the bout. That's disrespectful, though Mir calls it "no big deal."

    Lesnar beat Mir in two rounds, and Mir gives him props. ("No complaints.")

    But once the referee stopped the fight, Lesnar yelled in Mir's bloody face.

    "When I stood up, and he's screaming, it took me a few seconds to realize" what Lesnar was doing, Mir says.

    Lesnar spit out his mouth guard at a camera. He flipped two birds at the booing crowd. Microphone in hand, he said he wouldn't drink the UFC-sponsored beer because it hadn't paid him money (Lesnar got $3 million for the fight); and he said he'd torn a lucky "horseshoe" out of Mir's butt and "beat the hell out of him with it" (metaphors).

    Mir went to a room and saw TV recaps with his kids.

    "ESPN showed him spitting and hollering. My children are looking," Mir says. "I'm shaking my head, pointing at my kids and going, 'That's not how you want to do it, guys.'"

    Normally, Mir's kids see their dad and his training partner exchange blows but afterward they hug it out.

    "They see it as harmless. When it's over, it's over," Mir says. "We're all warriors. Well, some of us are."

    Mir reiterates the code of mixed martial arts:

    "We'll be cocky," especially before a fight, to help sell it. "If you ever heard any speeches (Bruce Lee) gave, he was a smart ass (before a fight). But at the end of a competition, he would be respectful."

    Post-fight, White chided Lesnar privately. Then Lesnar went to a news conference and apologized for being a bad sport, for demeaning the beer sponsor, and for bringing WWE showbiz into the UFC.

    "I was so jacked up," Lesnar explained. "The only thing I had against Frank was he beat me" in their previous match.

    The apology didn't come fast enough to stop media from painting Lesnar as a super villain of sports.

    Some UFC fans previously thought Mir engaged in too much pre-fight trash talk. But Mir says when he beat Lesnar in 2008, he behaved with class.

    "I didn't degrade him and say he was an idiot," Mir says. "There was no point to kick the guy while he was down.

    "OK, I beat the guy. What, am I going to spit on you, too?"

    Mir underestimated Lesnar's weight advantage.

    The top-heavy Lesnar is an inch taller, with an arm reach of two inches longer. More important, he had 20 pounds on Mir's lean, 245-pound frame.

    "I didn't think it would matter that much," Mir says of Lesnar's heft. (Mir had beefed up with weights, dumbbells, a lot of high reps, cardio and attribute balancing.)

    Mir wrongly assumed Lesnar's game plan. Lesnar had trash-talked Mir's standup fight game, so Mir thought Lesnar would fight in standing positions. Not so.

    "When he didn't come after me, that really threw me off," Mir says. "He didn't land any punches on his feet, did he?

    "I didn't expect him to run," Mir says. "He ran like a lightweight. ... It's my fault. I should have trained that he would be intimidated from the standup" fighting position.

    Instead, Lesnar went for pinning Mir on the ground and punching him in the face. Mir knows he got "rocked pretty hard in the first round."

    Mir didn't want to lose round two the same way. So he came out swinging and kicking. Lesnar back peddled to avoid hits.

    "When I chased him, that's what changed my game plan," Mir says. But, "I basically was (within) a half-an-inch of catching him."

    Mir threw a "Joe Frasier" hook, barely grazing Lesnar, he says. Mir caught Lesnar with a knee and elbow, but Lesnar spun away.

    In the end, Mir couldn't stop Lesnar from trapping him on the ground, pinning his hands and punching Mir in the face until the fight was stopped.

    "I knew he was hurt, but he had good leverage, with my shoulder against the cage," Mir says.

    "I made a stupid mistake," Mir says, while saying "my hat's off" to Lesnar and his coaching staff for executing a winning game plan.

    "I have a huge lump on my ear where he hit me."

    Mir is eager for a rematch. He'd have to beat other fighters to earn another bout with the champ in a year or 18 months, he says.

    On Sunday, he felt he'd slept only 20 minutes, pacing through the day, calling his trainer and insisting on getting back to training, doing power lifting to boost his weight and close in on Lesnar.

    "If I can just nail that gap to even 10 pounds, it'll be a different fight next time," Mir says.

    "Hopefully next time, I'll show him how somebody is supposed to act in victory."

    Doug Elfman's column appears on Mondays, Tuesdays and Fridays. Contact him at 702-383-0391 or e-mail him at delfman@reviewjournal.com. He also blogs at reviewjournal.com/elfman.

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    paul l - thomasville wrote on September 09, 2009 03:41 AM: mma and the ufc is NOT a 'gentlemanly' sport...i can think of no other situation where two grown men are on the ground trying to whip each others a**, nor where one of the gladiators face is beaten to a pulp that can be called gentlemanly...it is a brutish, animal sport, and i like it that way...to pretend otherwise is to deny the true nature of the sport, for the strongest and meanest to win...brock lesnar was indeed superior, and due to the very nature of the sport, was entitled to act like the victorious gladiator he was...i suggest mir take his licking and keep moving on, else lesnar will beat him bloody again...


    R. B. wrote on July 23, 2009 06:18 PM: I agree with the last comment. MMA has taught us that the smaller fighter can overcome with technique and strategy.

    I hope Mir does make it back and I hope he gets another shot at Lesnar. How great it would be to see that SOB Lesnar submitted again.


    Rob M wrote on July 14, 2009 03:15 AM: I don't think Mir should concentrate on putting on mass. Heath Herring weighed in about 255 when he fought Lesnar and still got thrown around.

    Mir's training should concentrate on takedown defence and, perhaps more importantly, getting out from under Lesnar's huge bulk. I, for one, was SCREAMING at the TV for him to get out of his half-guard - Lesnar used Couture's old trick of using half-guard to pin Mir's leg down to the canvas, negating any sudden submission attempts or sweep attempts.

    If Lesnar's post-fight claims about his training partners being able to get out of the positions that Mir apparently couldn't are true then it offers Mir an opportunity to improve that facet of his game. Mir's submissions are top-notch, and the strikes he did land on Lesnar were effective (even by Lesnar's own admission) - if Mir can tune up those parts of his arsenal and add the ability to get up from Lesnar's takedowns, I honestly think he can and will take the third match.

    Don't disappoint me, Frank.


    Riggs wrote on July 13, 2009 11:49 PM: Jas:

    Seriously? I know nothing about fighting... Bisping has beaten Matt Hamill, and Chris Leben. Both are very accomplished fighters. Oh, and then can I mention that he only lost to Rashad Evans by a split decision?!?! So, yeah, until Sat. night Bisping had a record of 17-1 with his only loss to Rashad Evans by SPLIT decision. (By the way, 11 of those 17 wins were by knockout or TKO.) What I'm getting at here is that, while Bisping is by no means one of my favorite fighters, you do him a great disservice by calling him "average at best".


    wettap wrote on July 13, 2009 08:42 PM: Lesnar makes me so proud to be from Minnesota. What a piece of dung.

    Note to Mir. Don't think you can out-wrestle Lesnar. You can't. Stick to what works for you and let him fight your game.


    -C wrote on July 13, 2009 08:14 PM: Frank's long struck me as disingenuous and more than a little phony. Without going into a tirade about how I feel about the man on a personal level, suffice it to say it was a pleasure to watch last Saturday's fight.

    I hope he is bulking up so he can have his rubber match and destroy his already questionable cardio, too. The man's just not as 'cerebral' as he'd like to believe if he really thinks he's going to be able to match Lesnar's strength by hitting the weights for a year.

    Frank's obviously bought into his own hype, and I for one can't get enough.

    Bring on the rubber match!


    Shamrock wrote on July 13, 2009 07:26 PM: mir should not let his kids watch the fight ,and brock should learn to to be more civilised and he will after all has been said
    anyway brock will stomp fedor now later right after he won aginst mir
    anytime. He needs to fight someone in
    UFC but who is willing to take the beating??


    dkt4ever wrote on July 13, 2009 05:42 PM: Lesnar is a very very handsome guy !! ..


    Gary Lynn wrote on July 13, 2009 03:52 PM: Frank Mir is a class act and good guy. I hope down the road he gets another shot at the bully!


    Mark wrote on July 13, 2009 03:47 PM: You know, I liked Mir, up until now. He's being so whiny and disrespectful. He's like a woman.

    Lesnar may have acted inappropriately, but at least he says it to Mir's face and not behind his back to others.


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