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WATER TALKS: State might partner with Mexico

Shared investment in desalination plants just one proposal being discussed

If Mexico begins harvesting drinking water from the sea some day, Nevada also might get a taste.

Talks are progressing among officials from both sides of the border over new joint efforts to squeeze more water out of the arid region.


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One idea being discussed is U.S. investment in Mexican desalination plants along the Pacific Ocean and Gulf of California.

The jointly funded plants would supply drinking water to growing coastal communities south of the border and thirsty U.S. cities, including Las Vegas.

Mexico might be the new frontier for the seven Western states that share the drought-stricken Colorado River, said Pat Mulroy, general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority.

Early this week, Mulroy traveled to San Diego for two days of talks with state and federal officials from both countries.

She said "jointly funded desalt projects in Mexico" are only one element of the discussions. Nevada might find additional opportunities to partner with Mexico on conservation initiatives, such as lining leaky irrigation canals south of the border to save water diverted from the Colorado.

Mexican officials also are interested in cooperating to protect the delta wetlands where the diminished river trickles into the Gulf of California.

"This administration has a huge environmental agenda," Mulroy said, referring not to the Obama White House but to the government of Mexican President Felipe Calderon.

Desalination holds the most promise for Nevada.

For example, if Mexican officials built a desalination plant for the growing city of Rosarito, south of Tijuana, the Southern Nevada Water Authority could buy a piece of that plant in exchange for a portion of Mexico's allocation of Colorado River water, Mulroy said.

Water wholesalers in Phoenix and Los Angeles could strike similar deals, she said.

The major problem with the arrangement, however, is it works only if the Colorado River has enough water to allow an exchange.

"If there's nothing in the river, there's nothing to swap," Mulroy said.

The cross-border water talks were convened in March 2008 by the International Boundary and Water Commission, a bilateral panel that administers the boundary and water treaties between the two nations.

Representatives have been meeting every other month or so to discuss the development of new water resources, the conservation of existing resources, and related operational and environmental issues.

The discussions were dealt a blow in September when the boundary and water commission's top two men, U.S. commissioner Carlos Marin and Mexican commissioner Arturo Herrera, were killed in a plane crash.

This week's meeting was the second for Mulroy, who joined the talks for the first time earlier this year.

She said the meeting held Tuesday and Wednesday in San Diego included officials from the U.S. departments of State and Interior, their Mexican counterparts, and representatives from the seven western states that share the Colorado River.

The boundary and water commission and the Mexican states of Sonora and Baja also were represented, she said.

Under a 1944 treaty, Mexico receives 1.5 million acre-feet of water a year from the Colorado River. That's five times more than Nevada's share, but only about one third of what California gets and about half of what Arizona receives.

There is no set schedule or deadline for the talks, but everyone involved is hoping for meaningful progress "sooner rather than later," said Sally Spener, spokeswoman for the U.S. section of the boundary and water commission.

Ongoing drought on the Colorado is driving the talks.

"We're all assuming the worst. There's a real sense of urgency in the room," Mulroy said.

But there are multiple treaties and a tensely managed international border in play as well, so Mulroy said no one should expect results too quickly.

"It's going to take an enormous amount of work," she said. "We're still a ways away."

Contact reporter Henry Brean at hbrean@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0350.

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BeWaterWise Rep wrote on September 02, 2009 05:27 AM: While the efforts are on to address the issue of water scarcity in places like Southern California, we need to do what we can as individuals to save water. Things like turning off the faucet while brushing your teeth, watering the lawn only twice a week, washing only full loads of laundry, can save many gallons of water. http://bit.ly/cF9UN has some more tips on how to save water.


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Free Nevada wrote on August 09, 2009 01:15 PM: @WaterSource, @JR: Noted, but know that Dubai World has some tremendous technology for desalinization plants many years ahead of what has been proposed (and even built) here in the USA in the past. One of many potential sites for such a high-tech plant could be Seal Beach (replacing the Naval Center near Surfside).

As far as electricity for desalinization and maglevs, we can buy the plans and engineers from India for a set of Breeder Nuclear Reactors (identical to what they are "flipping the switch" on in India right now) and locate them North of the Test Site in Central Nevada. That lets us get up and running in maybe 5-10 years instead of 30-50.

As far as financing, the USA can spend $50B on desalinization, breeder reactors and a maglevs (plus a transport system to sanely bring "spent fuel" in from around the country for reprocessing into our breeder reactors). These projects would employ (directly and indirectly) millions of people and do all kinds of great things, but the argument in DC is going to be whether or not we need all that extra infrastructure out here in the West in the foreseeable future (given where the bulk of the USA population is located). Nevada only has 1.25-1.7m people left and none of this can be justified just to support gambling interests --the public works/jobs aspect has to be important, plus the water AND maglev have to also help California's existing Inland Empire (IE) as well as provide new opportunities for land-intensive manufacturing (like aerospace), fuel reprocessing for the waste stored around the country (to feed the breeder reactors) and somehow justify the Vegas-area housing competing with the houses in the IE for LA/OC commuters.


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WaterSource wrote on August 09, 2009 04:29 AM: Desalinating seawater at major plants nearing construction in Southern California will cost between $950 to $1,100 per acre foot.

In California, total capacity of desalination plants is 83,000 acre feet per year, equal to about 11 percent of the water used in Los Angeles. An additional 475,000 acre feet per year in new capacity are in various stages of planning.

In 2002, Oil and Gas Journal ran a story on desalination facilities in Saudi Arabia. They reported construction costs of 30 facilities at $20 billion, $4 billion for operations and maintenance, and water at $1356/AF. While there are differences between the thermal process used in Saudi Arabia and the reverse osmosis projects in the U.S., the cost of natural gas in Saudi Arabia at that time was 75¢/Mcf—a fraction of what we pay in the U.S.

The Huntington Beach EIR states that the Poseidon project will require 5476 kWh/AF. If Poseidon were paying a Florida rate of 4.5¢/kWh the cost of electricity alone would be $246/AF. If they paid what the average Californian pays (which includes bond repayment for the 2001 energy crisis)—12¢/kWh—their electricity costs alone would be $657/AF. Poseidon stated at one of the Task Force meetings that it was planning on electricity at 6¢/kWh.

Nevada, the Southern Nevada Water Authority and the Bureau of Reclamation can store/accumulate a NON-TRIBUTARY fresh water Source of a million acre feet EACH YEAR in Lake Mead which holds 28.5 million acre feet.

WaterSource/WaterBank waterrdw@yahoo.com Retired Water Rights Analyst


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really wrote on August 08, 2009 10:58 PM: california is too god to have a desalination plant off its coast....as is oregon and washington....too many flippin liberals...


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Upstream wrote on August 08, 2009 09:41 PM: Water is intentionally being held upstream from Lake Mead -- So Lake Mead water levels are lower than they should be. Release it (yes, through the Grand Canyon) and Lake Mead will fill up. There's plenty of water upstream from Hoover.


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DesertLandEntryman wrote on August 08, 2009 07:31 PM: Don't hold your breath.
I told Jim Gaans (Director) of this plan in 1990. He replied there's to much red tape. And, how about LA, on the Pacific Ocean?
That is too complicated for these political thieves who rob Peter and don't pay Paul!
Thieves I tell you...


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Joe Bama wrote on August 08, 2009 06:34 PM: If every illegal crossing the boarder would be required to bring two 5 gallon pails of water with them that would solve the water shortage.


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Ray Walker wrote on August 08, 2009 03:59 PM: For five years, the SNWA & Mulroy have been offered confidential knowledge of a new NON-TRIBUTARY fresh water Source of a million acre feet a year that can be accumulated in Lake Mead to keep it reasonably FULL and generating 2000 megawatts of RENEWABLE ENERGY every year in facilities that are already bought and paid for by the American people.

Instantaneous releases could be made from Lake Mead to restore the Colorado River Delta and a measley 68,000 acre feet could be delivered to the All American Canal to keep Mexicali from going dry.

All this without damage to the environment or the water rights of anyone, anywhere.

WaterSource/WaterBank waterrdw@yahoo.com Retired Water Rights Analyst


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Mulroy prima donna wrote on August 08, 2009 12:57 PM: Mulroy is a big part of the problem of water shortage in our valley. She NEVER once stood up to the morons on the so-called circus commission or city council of silliness to stop the unbated growth. All these dam politicians PROMISED us that "growth pays for itself." As usual, they are lying through these collective teeth. The politicians should be made to pay for their stupid behavior and greed.


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the new america is not what you could ever even dream it is going to be. wrote on August 08, 2009 11:47 AM:





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