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Housing analyst predicts Las Vegas may be among first to emerge from slump

Las Vegas may be among the first markets to emerge from the housing slump clutching the nation as monthly sales have picked up and prices appear to be reaching the bottom, a local housing analyst said today.

While prices did not rise in October, they were remarkably close to September levels, Larry Murphy of Las Vegas-based SalesTraq said.


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  • New home median prices slid less than $4,000 to $249,000 and existing home prices dipped just $2,000 to $184,000.

    It’s the first hopeful sign Murphy has seen this year.

    “We’re all straining and stretching and hoping and praying for positive news,” he said. “We’re closer to knowing we’re near the bottom. It’s going to hit bottom and float on the bottom for another year before prices start to creep back up.”

    New home prices are down 17.3 percent from a year ago. Prices may fall a little more, but they’ve got to be at or close to the bottom, Murphy said. Builders simply can’t afford to sell for much less than today’s pricing levels, he said.

    “We have a few builders with products at $100 a square foot. There’s very little profit at $100 a square foot. That’s their basis in land in some cases. After that, you’re just building for practice or building for fun or to keep your employees,” Murphy said. “You’re just treading water and doing what you’ve always done because you don’t want to quit.”

    Home Builders Research reported 842 new home sales in October, compared with 1,324 sales in the same month a year ago. For the year, new home sales have declined 46 percent to 9,134 recorded closings.

    There were 3,140 resales during the month, bringing the year-to-date total to 24,985, a 13.1 percent increase from a year ago.

    “Once again, in our opinion, the primary story this month was the weak building permit totals,” Home Builders Research president Dennis Smith said.

    He counted just 329 new building permits in Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, Henderson and Clark County. North Las Vegas issued a meager 32 permits in October for 124 units, including 101 units in two condo communities.

    The Altos 10-City Composite Price Index showed a decline in asking prices of 1.5 percent in October and 2.9 percent for the past three months.

    Asking prices in the United States fell at the fastest rate in Las Vegas, down 3.7 percent in October and 7.1 percent over three months.

    It’s the seventh straight month that Las Vegas has posted the fastest rate of declining prices among the 26 major markets tracked by Altos Research and Real IQ market analysis firm. Denver and Houston are up 0.7 percent and 0.6 percent, respectively.

    “The fleeting signs of price stability that we saw during the summer have now completely vanished,” said Stephen Bedikian, research director for Mountain View, Calif.-based Real IQ.

    Foreclosures, or real estate-owned properties, have accounted for 60 percent to 70 percent of home sales in recent months, but that may decline in coming months with the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, Smith said.

    “Have banks finally figured out that it is beneficial to keep people in their homes and getting a lower monthly payment is better than getting nothing? Or has the threat of government intervention caused them to move a little quicker trying to resolve the glut of REO properties?” Smith asked. SalesTraq reported 3,476 existing home sales in October, more than twice the number from the same month a year ago. The caveat, Murphy said, is that 61 percent of those sales were bank-owned homes with a median sales price of $166,000. The median price of the rest of the homes was $217,000, up from $210,000 the previous month.

    Murphy estimates there are about 15,000 REO properties in Las Vegas, including a majority of the vacant homes on the market for sale. With roughly 2,000 foreclosure sales a month, it would take seven months to go through the current supply, assuming no more REOs come on to the market.

    “Instead of seven months, we probably have twice that Ñ a 14-month supply of REOs. That’s why I see another year of tough sledding,” Murphy said.

     

    Contact reporter Hubble Smith at hsmith@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0491.

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    fernando wrote on November 20, 2008 02:32 PM: The main problem is people want to buy a house that they CAN NOT AFFORD !!! We all want a nice big house but the reality is only a few people can really pay for it without struggling.The market is not going to get better any time soon and anybody who say that this's the time to buy a house is because they are making money from it like real state agents,loan officers,brokers,etc.Don't buy anything right now,keep your money in your pocket !!!Trust me !!!


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    Bruce wrote on November 18, 2008 11:41 PM: The housing is NOT gonna bounce back for many years. The credit system in this country is broken & its not gonna be fixed anytime soon. There simply are not enough people with good credit to obtain financing and way to many homes for sale. Real estate will not recover for 2-4 years.


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    Economy Killer wrote on November 18, 2008 09:37 PM: Upside Down: You are the reason the economy won't bounce back. You haven't lost anything until you sell or walk away. Then the tax payers will pickup YOUR tab. Can you make the payment on the deal YOU cut? Then take some responsiblities for the deal YOU made and pay YOUR bills like the rest of us! The problem is, its to easy to walk away and not enough people are honorable enough to do the right thing!


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    Realtor in LV wrote on November 18, 2008 08:29 PM: The next wave of foreclosures is coming....People that can afford to pay but refuse because there house is worth 50% of what they paid...they will walk, driving values down farther...and who can blame them.

    The government bails out the Banks, not the homeowners....its bs.

    With the depreciation at 50% from the peak, it will take 10-15 years minimum to break even....


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    Mark wrote on November 18, 2008 07:53 PM: MGM Lanni obviously knows something since he's fleeing. Unless you buy the more time for the family crap.

    Visitors won't be back for a long long time.


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    Thomas A. Carpenter wrote on November 18, 2008 07:19 PM: These people are worse then the weathermen.... with jobs moving out faster then illegal aliens, how is anyone going to be able to afford a house, even if we are near the bottom?


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    Clarity wrote on November 18, 2008 05:31 PM: Larry has pretty much been wrong all the time. Tell me how an empty home that is resold and stays empty helps our community? or helps out demand on housing. Someone bought it, or rather not someone, but a sophisticated investor..ooooohhh, that sounds important!! Expand your reading to Bloomberg, Case-Schiller, WSJ, Moody's and the Economist. We are in a multi year down turn. FACT. LV housing is over priced, The new day never came, only speculators. Credit is hard and will be hard to get for homes over $200,00. 00. People did not have down money before and the surely wont have 10% in beans in the new game of credit. Larry was correct on one thing. The market will float on the bottom for a long time..with the face facing down,as in dead market. It might be 10 years to come back and be healthy


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    Upside down wrote on November 18, 2008 05:21 PM: Unless these banks get their head out of their a** it will continue, an article in the RJ said 46% of the valley is under water. I am under water by at least 125K. I am prepared to give the house back to the bank unless they take a serious look at principle forgivenss. I am in the game and I know how to play it. They can either work with people like me or eat more of the balance.
    So we are not near the bottom, not for awhile folks. The "Hope for Homeowners" bill was a joke, we shall see if the new adminstration encourages the banks to start eating principle or force them via bankruptcy courts.


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    Don't be upset wrote on November 18, 2008 04:00 PM: You guy's don't be upset that today is a better time to buy a home then it was in 2005 and 2006 like you did. If you could buy today you would. Admit it.


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    JG wrote on November 18, 2008 02:52 PM: Three things,

    1.I am a REALTOR who sells foreclosures and believe me REO properties are flying off the MLS. Pricing is based on supply and demand. If they are selling it holds value.

    2. Forbes put out an article yesterday naming "The top ten depreciating home markets". Forbes LOVES to slam Vegas, but we absent from the list. (they did mention why, the rapid absorbtion of foreclosures into the market)

    3. Larry is a statistition. he could care less if anyone buys a home. I saw him speak six months ago and THE DATA was stating the bottom still a ways off. He has nothing to gain whatsoever from "a positive spin".


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