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Senators question need to comply with Real ID Act

CARSON CITY — State Senate Finance Committee members expressed concern today about a bill that would require the state Department of Motor Vehicles starting in 2010 to issue driver’s licenses that comply with the federal Real ID Act.

Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, D-Las Vegas, said the bill would create an unfunded mandate that forces DMV to spend as much as $1.5 million of its own money to meet requirements of the federal law.


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  • Finance Chairwoman Bernice Mathews, D-Reno, said that before she takes a vote on Senate Bill 52, she wants to check if the state can receive an exemption from complying with the law.

    During a hearing, both liberal and conservative lobbyists condemned the proposal on the grounds it would violate citizens’ right to privacy.

    Several complained Real ID licenses are the first step toward the insert of a radio frequency chip into licenses to allow government authorities to keep track of citizens’ whereabouts. The DMV denied that allegation.

    The Real ID Act was passed by Congress in 2005 to prevent terrorists from acquiring legitimate identification cards. States now vary widely in the information they require people to provide before issuing them licenses. The act would standardize the information DMVs would collect.

    “This is a silly law,” testified David Schuman, a lobbyist for the states’ rights activists group Nevada Committee for Full Statehood. “The government thinks they can create documents that al-Qaeda cannot duplicate. Osama bin Laden was a civil engineering graduate of London University. Al-Qaeda is not ignorant people.”

    Under the Real ID provisions, Nevadans and other citizens would have to show a birth certificate, a Social Security card and give proof of their residency through a utility or other bills before they could secure a state driver’s license. Without the Real ID-compliant license, people could be blocked from getting on an interstate airline or entering federal buildings.

    DMV officials said the price of a drivers’ license, $22 for four years, is a lot cheaper than acquiring a passport, which costs $114 and also can be used at airports.

    But lobbyists objected to those comments.

    “I am sure airlines are still going to fly to Phoenix,” Schuman said. “The airlines aren’t going to give away 11 states.”

    Janine Hansen, a lobbyist for the conservative group Nevada Eagle Forum, said the federal government cannot prevent people from boarding planes. She said one of her brothers disrobed in an airport to prove he was not in possession of weapons and was permitted to fly.

    “As long as you are patted down, you can fly,” Hansen said.

    Mathews, who owns a business at the Reno-Tahoe International Airport, said Hansen was correct. Shuman said that 11 states, including Arizona, have received extensions from enforcing the act.

    Former Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano now is director of the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Real ID Act. As governor, she signed a bill declaring her state’s opposition to enforcing the Real ID Act. But as homeland security chief, she intends to “roll out something new” concerning the act, according to American Civil Liberties Union lobbyist Rebecca Gasca, who urged the committee to reject the bill.

    “We think it is prudent not to bring the state into compliance,” she said “Nevada could be the only state to comply.”

    During the 2007 session, the proposal was widely criticized in Nevada because of concern it would cost $30 million to implement. But under new Department of Homeland Security requirements, the price tag rose to $5.1 million. Tom Jacobs, a DMV spokesman, said Nevada probably will receive all but about $400,000 of its costs from the federal government.

    The state will not raise the price of driver’s licenses if it does not receive all the money, he said.

    Contact Capital Bureau Chief Ed Vogel at evogel@reviewjournal.com or 775-687-3901.

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    ED wrote on April 19, 2009 10:38 PM: The real ID act is a joke. Our rights are being violated. I for one will not stand for it. I will sue for violation of my privacy & constitional rights. We the people must speak up. So were are you all at. Speak up !!! Just don't set there and gripe about it. You must do something about it. We control this country, not the government. We put them in to do what we say and want. We can always vote them out are Impeach.


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    Annie wrote on March 26, 2009 07:37 PM: To Rob E,
    Yes, we should NEVER critzie anyone.
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    mary jones wrote on March 19, 2009 09:31 AM: It is about time, there are so many women having children putting children under the wrong man's name they know that the child doesn't belong to the man but they will put the child under his name to get child support, fake birth certificates, fake social security cards you name it, it is now all fake, It will be nice once they get a national database and put all of our dna codes in the system where all of this foolishness will stop. There is too much drama going on with genetic and identity theft and mishap with people and children's id. People need to wake up and realize if a person is sickly and needs a donor it is hard without knowing your history and lot of people today do not even know their mothers or fathers there is a need for dna databases. They are going to put genetic codes on the drivers licenses and social security cards really soon.


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    some guy wrote on March 16, 2009 11:52 PM: As it is, the new central issuance DL's suck. They are flimsy, and already use things like facial recognition software to prevent fakes. This is as far as we should go, just far enough to make sure the person is who they say they are.


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