AP wrote on July 01, 2009 03:08 AM: Have a government agency inspect...like the did with the endoscopy clinics or like they do when enforcing the smoking bans?

tonyss wrote on July 01, 2009 12:05 AM:

zack wrote on June 30, 2009 07:42 PM:
sometimes the Quality Control Program is to closely tied to the contractor. The best way to ensure quality is to have the actual government agency inspect and test the work, they can focus solely on quality and not worry about the contractors bottom line. Anytime the contractor has control of the QC firm you are not going to get the same focus on quality, that is just the way it is. Not to mention it is cheaper for the taxpayer to have the county, city or states inspectors/testers perform these functions most of the time these consultants cost over $100 a hour to the taxpayer while actual gov employees come at much lower rate

Zach...

one of these days you are going to want to be one of those consultants...

love ya man..

Veritas wrote on June 30, 2009 08:53 PM: Monkey See Monkey Do-
Converse has everything to do with this. They are bound by Clark Co. administrative code. It's no secret their special inspection wing is bogus.

Breakdown wrote on June 30, 2009 08:52 PM: Another recent instance of breakdowns (sic) in communications:

http://gizmodo.com/5304233/entire-new-13+story-building-tips-over-in-shanghai/gallery/

Don Best wrote on June 30, 2009 08:07 PM: Wait a minute. Were the cut sheets wrong? Or did the Ironworkers simply screw up the size and placement of the rebar? Were any of them fired? Before blaming inspectors, you have to assure that you have competent field personnel on the job. As usual, the Union loafers get away with murder. But in about 6 months, they'll need to do it in another state. Good riddance.

"improperly installed by Pacific Coast Steel, a subcontractor on the CityCenter project". 'Nuff said.

zack wrote on June 30, 2009 07:42 PM: sometimes the Quality Control Program is to closely tied to the contractor. The best way to ensure quality is to have the actual government agency inspect and test the work, they can focus solely on quality and not worry about the contractors bottom line. Anytime the contractor has control of the QC firm you are not going to get the same focus on quality, that is just the way it is. Not to mention it is cheaper for the taxpayer to have the county, city or states inspectors/testers perform these functions most of the time these consultants cost over $100 a hour to the taxpayer while actual gov employees come at much lower rate.

Vania wrote on June 30, 2009 07:06 PM: Money See - Money Do said "As long as the Clark County Commissioners continue to allow Ron Lynn to embarrass them, nothing will ever change. Same old song and dance.

When you have absolutely NO OVERSIGHT by the County, why would anyone comply with building code? It's been ignored for DECADES. Whenever someone points out a flaw, 2 things happen. RON LYNN blames someone else. That someone is FIRED.:

MAYBE THIS PROBLEM SHOULD BECOME A CAMPAIGN ISSUE FOR WHOEVER RUNS AGAINST RORY REID FOR GOVERNOR.

RORY, WHAT DOES RON LYNN AND THE INSPECTORS HAVE ON YOU OR YOUR DAD THAT YOU, PERSONALLY, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION, CONSISTENTLY FAIL TO FIX THIS MONUMENTAL PROBLEM?

Vania wrote on June 30, 2009 07:02 PM: "...the inspectors stated that all reinforcement work was completed properly and matched the construction plans filed with the county"

"An Oct. 18 meeting between county and Converse officials...determined the faulty work was not properly inspected and that the "documentation of special inspections are materially incorrect and that a substantial lack of required supervision occurred on the site."

Let's go back to the MGM Grand fire. Afterwards, our building codes were updated to make the buildings firesafe. The codes also are supposed to make the buildings earthquake safe. The purpose of these up-to-date building codes, requiring best construction practices, is to keep tourists safe. Tourists are the lifeblood of Las Vegas' economy.

It's time for the District Attorney to start prosecuting individual inspectors and their employer for criminal fraud in this case. If that doesn't occur, no tourist, and no investor in casino stock, will ever be safe from concern that these highrise hotel towers are NOT safe.

The District Attorney needs to make an example of these inspectors and their employer, to whom the County Commissioners, County Manager and Ron Lynn delegated the County's duty of due diligence to protect the public.

And if the District Attorney can make a case against the subcontractor and general contractor, on some theory of fraud or violation of the building codes, it's equally important that they be prosecuted too.

If the District Attorney doesn't act, these sloppy practices will continue, Lady Luck will insure that one day there will be another hotel disaster and the Las Vegas communities' gross negligence in construction practices will be exposed, destroying public confidence in the county's high rise hotels and in tourist safety.

There's an old adage "Don't bite the hand which feeds you" and in this case the tourist's hands are feeding most of Las Vegas.

Monkey See - Monkey Do. wrote on June 30, 2009 06:04 PM: How can Converse be thrown under the bus for following STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE in Clark County?

Ron Lynn and his gang of incompetents have been busted TIME AND TIME AGAIN for violating the same set of standards. Do you really think that anything has changed?

As long as the Clark County Commissioners continue to allow Ron Lynn to embarrass them, nothing will ever change. Same old song and dance.

When you have absolutely NO OVERSIGHT by the County, why would anyone comply with building code? It's been ignored for DECADES. Whenever someone points out a flaw, 2 things happen. RON LYNN blames someone else. That someone is FIRED.

GOOGLE - Former inspector says new audit repeats old issues.

Absolutely incredible to see TEFLON RON still blaming others for his MONUMENTAL MISTAKES.

More incredible for the Clark County Commissioners to be IGNORING THE FACT that the Building Department, under Ron Lynn, has ALWAYS been on the take.

Read the Kessler Report. It's all in there. Converse has NOTHING to do with this issue.

GOOGLE - Watchers were not watched.

Why on earth would RORY REID and the Commission continually give this guy Lynn a FOOLS PASS when it comes to PUBLIC SAFETY. What are they waiting for? Another collapse?

VegasSmitty wrote on June 30, 2009 05:52 PM: The inspection process ultimately falls on the county building inspectors, but its almost impossible to pry them out of air conditioned offices and do the job they were hired for.

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