1. Part I

    Always Justified

    Las Vegas police shoot often but seldom are disciplined.

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  2. Part II

    142 Dead, and Rising

    Many of the 378 shootings could have been avoided.

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  3. Part III

    Quick to Shoot, Slow to Change

    Las Vegas police are slow to deal with problems.

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  4. Part IV

    Broken System, Shattered Lives

    At every step, the inquest system protects police.

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  5. Part V

    Better Ways

    What Las Vegas can learn from other police departments.

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Part I: Always Justified

To shoot or not shoot is quandary for veteran, rookie officers

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    Las Vegas police academy recruit Brice Clements fires blanks at training officer John Liles, who plays a subject charging at him with a knife during a November 2009 close-quarter engagement scenario . Once a year Las Vegas officers are required to attend a daylong advanced skills course that includes live-action and computer simulations. » Buy this photo

By Lawrence Mower
© 2011, LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Posted: Nov. 27, 2011 | 12:00 a.m.
Updated: Nov. 27, 2011 | 1:30 a.m.

Detective Sgt. Randy Oaks' plan to buy seven pounds of pot from two Cuban drug dealers in 1984 seemed to be going well. As he waited in the parking lot of a motel on Las Vegas Boulevard , he saw one of the suspects go into the room where two of Oaks' under­cover Las Vegas police detectives were waiting to make the buy.

The suspect went in empty-handed, and obviously had no marijuana. Oaks soon saw a second man walk through the parking lot, a duffel bag slung over his shoulder. The man saw Oaks, who was undercover with a beard and long hair.

That's when everything fell apart.

Oaks, believing the man had drugs in the duffel, got out of the car, pulled his badge and gun and yelled at him to stop.

Instead, the man looked Oaks in the eye and kept walking toward him, hands in his pockets.

Thoughts raced through the sergeant's mind: Was the man deaf? Did he not understand me? Was he armed? Was he even involved in the drug deal?

"I can remember ... making a conscious decision, and I said, 'I've got to shoot this guy and hope to hell he's the suspect and he's got a gun in his pocket,' " Oaks recalled.

Just as he made that decision, the two detectives from the motel room came down the stairs, distracting the suspect long enough for Oaks to tackle him.

Oaks' intuition was right, but the incident left him rattled.

"I keep saying, 'God, OK, I was right. If I would have shot him, I would have been OK because he had a gun in his pocket and seven pounds of marijuana," Oaks recalled of that day nearly 30 years ago. "But what if he's a deaf mute who was homeless and had the duffel bag full of clothes and he didn't understand what I was trying to say because he couldn't hear me? What if? And how could I live with that if that was the case?

"I could live with it fine if he's the bad guy and he has the gun in his pocket. I think."

Oaks later became a Las Vegas deputy chief, then police chief in Prescott, Ariz. Now retired, he said he's grateful he never fired his gun in 35 years of law enforcement, but he still wonders about those close calls: Should he have fired?

LITTLE RESEARCH ON DECISION TO SHOOT

Police shootings make headlines. Far more common incidents when an officer would be justified in using deadly force, but elects not to, seldom get much attention. Sometimes a cop relies on instinct and experience in a split-second decision. Sometimes, it's just luck.

Research on officers' decisions to shoot is "paltry," and there isn't much to explain why some shoot and others don't, said David Klinger, a University of Missouri, St. Louis professor and author of "Into the Kill Zone," a book about police shootings. A former Los Angeles cop, he is one of the few academics who study the issue.

Experience could play a role, he said. A young officer might not recognize a threat seen by a more seasoned cop. Or, a rookie might panic in a situation where an experienced officer wouldn't.

The goal is to find answers to the question and adjust training to help officers make the right split-second decision.

But police don't make the right call every time. A Review-Journal analysis of all 378 officer-involved shootings in Clark County since 1990 showed that about 10 percent of the time a Las Vegas officer fired at an unarmed person.

"In the moment, expecting human beings to always be correct is simply unrealistic," Klinger said.

Las Vegas officers go through training designed to help them make better decisions. Once a year they're required to attend a daylong advanced skills course that includes live-action and computer simulations. The scenarios involve actors whose actions force officers to decide what level of force to apply. In some video training officers face situations where they must avoid shooting unarmed civilians.

As in other large departments, officers are also required to practice target shooting. Las Vegas requires it four times per year.

Klinger said target shooting is "not valuable at all" in helping officers better decide when to shoot. He compared it to someone learning defensive driving tactics on an empty track, with no other cars to simulate traffic.

It might not do much for a cop's aim, either. The Review-Journal found that about two-thirds of the shots fired by Clark County cops miss.

SOME CASES SPLIT THIN BLUE LINE

Police are often reluctant to second-guess the actions of another officer, at least publicly. But some cases split the thin blue line just as they do the public.

One such case was the 2009 fatal shooting of 15-year-old Tanner Chamberlain.

Wayne Peterson, a former Las Vegas police homicide lieutenant, said he would not have pulled the trigger on the mentally ill teenager, who was holding a knife in front of his mother when Las Vegas officer Derek Colling shot him in the head.

"I couldn't live with myself," Peterson said of the thought. The killing, one of two by Colling, was ruled justified by a Clark County coroner's inquest jury.

Bill Young was Clark County sheriff in 2006 when handcuffed murder suspect Swuave Lopez, 16, escaped from a police car and was shot and killed while running from detectives Shane Womack and Ken Hardy, who said they fired because they were physically incapable of catching up to Lopez. Womack fired the fatal shot.

Though the death was ruled justified, Young now says he wouldn't have taken that shot.

"I think that I could have ran down that kid. Even at my age back then, I was in a lot better shape, I think, than the officer that ended up saying he couldn't run him down,'' Young said. But, he added, the officer "was within his rights as a police officer and the letter of the law by shooting a fleeing felon."

Is the legal decision the right decision? Peterson said he had several situations where he would have been justified in shooting someone, but didn't.

"Yeah, you're justified, but was there really a threat?" he said. "At the end of the day, you have to live with yourself."

A 'SHOOT-DON'T SHOOT' SITUATION

"Every cop who's in a shooting probably has had 10 other times when they could have shot, but didn't," said former Sgt. Eric Ducharme, who was involved in three shootings in his 27 years with the Las Vegas police . "The bad guy's got a gun or a knife or another weapon, and it's a 'shoot-don't shoot' situation."

Ducharme once found a man who was burglarizing a doctor's office. He drew his pistol and identified himself. The suspect then pulled a gun of his own and pointed it at Ducharme.

"I was about to shoot," he said. "But something about the guy's body language communicated he was going to give up."

The man dropped the weapon.

Yet another incident in the late 1970s still gnaws at Oaks.

It started with a 911 call: A woman was screaming for help in a trailer on Boulder Highway. When Oaks arrived, the screams stopped. He called out repeatedly for someone to come to the door as his partner went behind the trailer.

He went inside, and eventually a woman emerged from a bedroom at the end of a hallway. She was shaking. She had been scratched. Small drops of blood peppered her face. No one else was home, she said.

"Everything's fine officer. You can leave," she told him.

Oaks didn't believe her. While his partner waited with the woman, Oaks drew his gun and made his way to the bedroom. In the bed he found a man with the sheets pulled up to his neck.

As Oaks pointed his gun at him, the man reached across his body with his left hand and pulled away the sheets to show the .44-caliber revolver in his right hand. Oaks told him to drop it.

Instead, the man swung the gun toward him -- but stopped short of pointing it directly at him.

"You got it," the man said as he tossed the gun at the officer's feet. Oaks looked down and saw that it was cocked, ready to fire.

He still wonders if he made the right call. Given the circumstances, few would have questioned a shooting that would have been legally justified.

"Was I good or lucky? I don't know," he said. "I still don't know if what I did was the right thing to do, but it had a happy ending, and I went home."


Review-Journal special correspondent Alan Maimon contributed to this report.

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  1. RealityKingpin Feb. 14, 2012 | 8:21 a.m. Report Abuse

    Metro cannot CHHOSE who will resist them with deadly force, or with a weapon..they can only respond to those that do....If they are white or black they cannot control. Now if someone is going to suggest that if a metro cop is presented witha white bad guy who point s a gun at them that they would fail to protect themsevles??? Because they are white????????????????????????? The single most ludicrous argument in the history of arguments.

  2. RealityKingpin Feb. 14, 2012 | 8:17 a.m. Report Abuse

    Pulitzer prize??? HAHAHAHAHA..Sick. this is not INVESTIGATIVE>..these reporters took their DATA and then made their own conclusions?? Im sorry...I forgot to see where ANY of those involved in this "series" have ANY Law enforcement experience! Or any experience whatsoever in deadly force encounters. this is tantamount to me reading some medical charts and critiquing a surgeon! They clearly hadpicked those they talked to, who all have a clear agenda.

  3. drowsyangel Feb. 13, 2012 | 11:35 p.m. Report Abuse

    The NPMSRP uses media reports detailing both alleged and confirmed cases of police misconduct from all available media sources in the US. It is a worthless site with absolutely no validity.

  4. Voice of Reason Nov. 29, 2011 | 2:28 p.m. Report Abuse

    @Tanker - uh, I don't think I said any of the statistics being published were wrong. The RJ is citing statistics that show Blacks are victims of OIS at a disproportionate rate. So what I want to see is the racial makeup of who is committing felony crimes. Is that to much to ask? Are you afraid those statistics might fall in line with the victims statistics?

  5. TankerUSMA1975 Nov. 28, 2011 | 9:07 p.m. Report Abuse

    @Reality, Batman, Voice et al. Please point out in the data that the writers have gathered in the past year the factual errors. Where is the data incorrect? If the data is correct, then conclusions drawn by analyzing the data must also be correct. If you have information that contradicts the data in the article, please share it so that we all may consider it in making our evaluations of the articles.

  6. preachersdaughter Nov. 27, 2011 | 10:38 p.m. Report Abuse

    @Quintus Maximus...Your claim that 99% of law enforcement are fine, upstanding people is BS! It isn't even statistically possible being that they pull cops from the general population and I doubt you believe 99% of them are fine, upstanding people. You would like us to believe that the police put their own lives in jeopardy just to help the people. How can this be true if their main concern is getting home safely at the end of the day? Concern for the public takes a backseat to concern for “officer safety.” Police have no obligation to protect any individual, and cannot be held responsible for failing to do so. When the police show that they can respect the Constitution and people’s rights, maybe they will gain back the trust of the people that fund them.

  7. bghs1986 Nov. 27, 2011 | 10:33 p.m. Report Abuse

    @Quintus Maximus.."In addition theres is so many errors in your "Findings" ....Now, what I find helps support a statement like that are a few specific "errors" in the reporters findings, with the enmpirical evidence you have that proving the reporter's error.



    What rings really hollow are those who want us to know that this series is nothing but lies, giving, not facts, but only the writer's opinion and personal agenda and the only evidence they are "not facts, but only the writer's opinion and personal agenda" you really just embarass yourself,



    Here'e an example of contesting a claim using good old fashioned facts instead of "opinion and lies" to prove how others are using "opinions and lies."

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    For "presenting your opinions as fact" we can just use your assertion the police officers "are for the most part, and Im talking 99% , are fine upstanding people." You clearly cannot support that claim, but unless I can show some evidence contesting a number you clealry made up, I have nothing. But since The National Police Misconduct Statistics and Reporting Project has shown year after year that the rate of police officers committing violent crimes is actually slighty higher than it is in for everyone else, and the rate at which cops commit sex crimes is three times that of the general public. (2010 NPRSMP Annual Report) then I have actually proven that you're just making things up,

  8. irishfighter Nov. 27, 2011 | 10:30 p.m. Report Abuse

    Randy Oaks was a scared cop his whole career, no one wanted to be backed by him. Oaks was always afraid of getting in trouble. He did make rank like all the cowards that are now in the ivory tower. Its amazing how good cowards are at taking test and getting promoted to high ranking supervisors.

  9. RealityKingpin Nov. 27, 2011 | 9:57 p.m. Report Abuse

    Am I the only one who notices that all of the dead guys listed in this articel are either Drug ussers, woman beaters, violent felons, or sexual predators. Will someone try and prove me wrong? Because I looked over the list several times and I dont find any lil grannies crossing the street. When you live those lifestyle you enter into a certain amount of implied risk. Criminal article.

  10. Quintus Maximus Nov. 27, 2011 | 9:43 p.m. Report Abuse

    Wow! Randy Oaks didnt pull the trigger! Get him a medal. Do any of you realize that those same "no -shoot" decisions are made countless times a day by officers all over this town. But you see, no reporter is there to report it each time. These vultures only come out if they smell blood. No one wants to read about COPS doing a great job. Sad. Thes Vultures sit around catching wood anytime a Officer shooting occurs and they have the smallest chance to ply their trade. And they do it with a smile. LEt me reassure you people, that these men and women of this Police departmetn are for the most part, and Im talking 99% , are fine upstanding people that if you call 911 will risk there very lives to get to you to help. This is all you need to know.

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