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Elderly question flu shot controls

65 and older face H1N1 vaccine limits




George Anter knows he has a lot to be thankful for during the holidays.

The heart he received during a transplant procedure 12 years ago, for which he gives thanks every day, continues to do its job.


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  • He has won bouts with prostate and skin cancer, and his non-Hodgkins lymphoma remains under control with chemotherapy.

    His four children and four grandchildren are thriving in their careers and in school.

    And in December, Anter and his wife, Madeline, will celebrate their 53rd wedding anniversary.

    But as grateful as he is, the 74-year-old Anter admits one thing will be bugging him during the holidays.

    "The truth is," the retired paper sales executive said last week, "when I think about not being able to get a swine flu shot, I get real pissed off."

    Two months after H1N1 flu vaccine was first distributed to public health districts around the country, people 65 and older with serious medical conditions still can't get vaccinated.

    Anter's doctors at Stanford University Hospital, where he received his transplant, tell him he has a compromised immune system and "the H1N1 flu could do me in."

    He takes at least nine prescription medications daily to stay alive.

    "But when I try to get a shot, I'm told I'm too old " he said as he sat in the study of his Peccole Ranch home.

    "I feel that they see me and other older people as garbage and are just waiting for the trucks to come pick us up," Anter said.

    "I served my country. I enlisted during the Korean War. You don't treat people this way just because they're older."

    The priority groups for the vaccine, which public health officials say is still in short supply, remain pregnant women; people who live with or care for children younger than 6 months; health care and emergency first responders; persons between 6 months and 24 years of age; and adults up to 64 with chronic health conditions.

    The evidence has shown that, as a group, seniors need the vaccine less than younger age groups, according to Dr. Anthony Fiore with the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    And when there is a vaccine shortage, he said, you must prioritize.

    Public health authorities admit they have been inundated with calls from the elderly who want to know when they can receive vaccinations.

    Many seniors have called the Review-Journal to complain. Some refrain from giving their names because they fear their complaints could cause their Social Security benefits to be cut off.

    No one knows when the system will change.

    "We are working collaboratively with the Nevada State Health Division and other local health authorities in the state to determine if the state is in the position to expand vaccine availability," Stephanie Bethel, a health district spokeswoman, said in an e-mail.

    Mary Ann Sokol, a 79-year-old cancer and heart attack survivor profiled by the Review-Journal in August after the priority groups were announced, said last week she and her husband no longer go out to dinner for fear her compromised immune system won't be able to fight off the H1N1 virus.

    "I have to admit I'm sometimes really scared," she said. "When I feel that way, I always wear a mask when I go out."

    When public health officials realized last August that the vaccine would be in short supply this fall, they studied the 44,000 cases of the virus that had been reported to the CDC since the outbreak began in April.

    Seniors were affected the least, Fiore said. It appeared that older people have a pre-existing immunity to the H1N1 virus.

    CDC researchers suggested that the immunity older adults appear to enjoy was built up either because they were infected with or vaccinated against an older seasonal flu strain that closely resembled H1N1.

    Americans up to 24 years of age are about 20 times more likely to contract the virus than people older than 65.

    People ranging in age from 25 to 49 are five times more likely to be hit by the virus than seniors.

    And men and women in the 50 to 64 age bracket have a three times greater chance of catching the virus than those older than 65.

    Anter is familiar with the statistics. But he says many seniors have underlying medical conditions that render their immune systems defenseless.

    "You've got to make exceptions for people with very serious health conditions," he said.

    Exceptions aren't favored by public health officials, however, including those with the health district who have repeatedly said that this would slow down the process of trying to contain the outbreak.

    And private physicians who have enrolled in the H1N1 vaccine provider program aren't supposed to bypass public health regulations. They sign documents saying they will abide by the program's designated priorities if given vaccine to distribute.

    The health district had stockpiled thousands of doses of vaccine while claiming there wasn't enough vaccine to vaccinate those between the ages of 25 and 64 with chronic health conditions.

    Then, earlier this month, state health officials forced the health district to start vaccinating that group.

    The district still has nearly 50,000 doses of vaccine on hand, as of Wednesday.

    "Why not give it to those who need it?" Anter said. "They've given clinic after clinic to those they said were in priority groups, and they still have it left over."

    Martha Framsted, a state health division spokeswoman, has said public health officials are continually reviewing the situation to see when vaccinations can be made available to more Nevadans.

    "We want to give it to everybody," she said.

    But Anter doesn't see any sense of urgency.

    "When you get as old as I am, they see you as a big zero," he said. "They don't really care if we die."

    Contact reporter Paul Harasim at pharasim@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2908.

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    George Menger wrote on December 18, 2009 06:44 PM: I'm curious. When does a person build up a natural immunity? Age 50, 61, 65, 95? It appears that the CDC has conviently chosen the age 50 and older to not be eligible to initial receive the H1N1 vaccination as will other groups. Why would a healthy 49 year old be more likely to die from H1N1 than a 65 year old with medical problems who can't get the H1N1 vaccination because of his/her age?

    This is all about your "Big Brother" government deciding for you. That's what this Medical Care Reform bill is all about. Big money for the insurance and pharmacutical companies and kickback payments to the politicans in Washington all at your expense. Wake up America! Your goverment is good at only one thing; screwing tax paying Americans. Let's fire those running for reelection in November 2010. It's time for payback.


    Natural Immunity wrote on December 03, 2009 09:08 AM: What part of people over 65 have built in immunity do any of these individuals not understand? They have in their bodies what is equivalent to getting the shot!

    Almost every single death is NOT in the over 65 population. They are more at risk for seasonal flu than H1N1. A healthy 50 year old is more likely to get and die from H1N1 than an elderly person.

    In my office, everyone that got H1N1 was younger. All our older workers, including those with severe medical conditions went along just fine.

    You have a natural immunity so stand back and let those that have no immunity get the shots.


    nick zello wrote on December 02, 2009 12:39 PM: I am an 82 year old male who has had quad bypass surgery And have a conpromised immune system because im on cyclosporine. My wife is 79 who lost a lung during her bypass surgery.If she got the flu and it went into pnuemonia what chance would she have? If this isnt healthcare rationing i dont know what the hell else you could call it. we were denied shots.


    tired of the whole mess wrote on December 02, 2009 12:07 PM: nevada might open up shots to whoever wants them. then maybe this me first crap will stop.


    Steven wrote on December 02, 2009 06:36 AM: You should be glad you cant get it. The vaccine does kill a number of people for no reason which when you are older happens to be higher then the number of people that would probably die from the virus.


    Ken Wright wrote on December 01, 2009 12:18 PM: While on a cruise ship, I had to have a series of acupuncture treatments. I went to the Social Secruity to get reimbursement fo same. They said it was allowed, than ask me my age and I replied 75, they said I too was to old to get reimbursed as I was over 65. Why are we paying PART B???


    V.Frost-Jensen wrote on December 01, 2009 11:47 AM: We live in Denmark. Our family doctor called us the other day and said we should come in for swine flu shots, as we are both at risk. My husband has a chronic heart and lung condition --age 72. I have Type 1 diabetes and also a heart condition. Age 69. We're very pleased with the good treatment and the socialized medicine system here --at least this presents a very positive and personal aspect in this instance!!!
    vfj Good things can happen here!!!


    rogindaUP wrote on November 30, 2009 06:29 PM: When are people going to wake up? This, 'oh sorry, we-don't-have-enough-to-go-around' "rationing" b.s. is nothing but a cover. The reality of it is, the idea & goal is for a systematic program of global depopulation, starting with the most vulnerable & expendable segments of 'the masses.' Make no mistake: the oligrachs pulling the strings in this world consider 98.5% of the world's population to be "useless eaters;" little better than chattel competing for limited, valuable resources. This is the agenda behind the whole "climate change" canard; in truth, the only "change" human beings will witness under Rothchilds' puppet Barack Hussein Obama is going to be the ever-increasing speed at which the powers-that-be find new ways to dispense with 'unfit' & 'unproductive' human beings -- first the elderly... then the terminally ill... then the profoundly physically & mentally impaired... then the intellectually low functioning generationally unemployed... then...

    It's all too clear. From ever more resilient strains of laboratory-produced influenza, to "vaccines" injecting nothing more than live virus and/or microchips, the herds are being culled. Prepare for much darker days ahead. Get your spiritual house in order, now; because the house of cards you're living in is about to fall.


    noseitall wrote on November 30, 2009 06:21 PM: Unfortunately, most of the companies that produce the vaccine are not in the US, because of the liability lawsuits involved in the possible side effects of a vaccine. Therefore, the US government has no control over the production of the vaccines, and the US has no precedence over any other country in the world where the vaccine producer might prefer to distribute it.

    For all those folks who want to "redistribute the wealth" and also for those who believe in "outsourcing", this is a prime example. When things are distributed equally, we must wait in line with the rest of the world. That means we might have the same death rate from this flu as the rest of the world, rather than our usual first-class medical treatment.

    Get over it. The vaccine companies have left, there is a worldwide vaccine shortage, and those far-off companies cannot hear your pleas. They don't care if you are a veteran, a senior citizen, a child, or a Hollywood actor. Those companies make their money selling their product all over the world, and could care less about anything except their bottom line.

    The real lesson here is to work hard, save your money, "buy American", realize that the tradeoff for purchasing all the affordable products made in foreign lands is that we have lost control of production and distribution, and it's not coming back.






    HarryCare wrote on November 30, 2009 06:04 PM: Harry will not have HarryCare. Harry will have an expensive private concerage health insurance plan funded by those seniors who can't get a H1N1 shot. How is that hope and change working out for ya? It is not working out for me at all... and if I live I'll vote Senator Reid out of office and get BO next. Fire ever Democrat you can if you want to live.


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