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Governor suggests state exit Medicaid

CARSON CITY -- Gov. Jim Gibbons has asked staff members to explore whether the state can drop out of the Medicaid program, which provides free health care to more than 233,000 Nevadans.

A Gibbons spokesman said Thursday that because of the bad economy, the state can no longer cover most Medicaid recipients, though the federal government provides most of the funding. He said things will only get worse if Congress approves the health care bill.


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Under the health care legislation being considered by a Senate-House conference committee, Nevada would pay an additional $613 million between 2014 and 2019, to provide health care through Medicaid for another 328,000 residents. It would pay no additional Medicaid costs in the three years before 2014.

Daniel Burns, the governor's communications director, said if the idea of dropping Medicaid proves feasible, the state would use its own money to continue to provide care for those who might otherwise be left behind, including the seriously ill and disabled.

A conservative Las Vegas-based think tank said the idea could save the state money and suggested that poor Nevadans probably would be better off without Medicaid.

But legislative leaders said Gibbons' idea would not receive their approval, which might be required. And a nonpartisan policy research group that monitors Congress said dumping Medicaid would leave many Nevadans without health care.

Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, D-Las Vegas, questioned whether the governor's talk about ending Medicaid was serious or an attempt to improve his re-election chances.

"It appears they are veering from sound bite to sound bite," she said. "It just seems to me this is all about bolstering his poll numbers and not about serious government at a critical time in our state."

She said Medicaid provides health care for seniors in nursing homes, foster children and others who are seriously ill.

In coming weeks, legislators will start discussing the state's budget shortfall and steps that can be made to reduce it, Buckley said. She said Gibbons has not yet responded to her request that he join them in an attempt to reach agreements.

Senate Minority Leader Bill Raggio, R-Reno, doubts pulling Nevada out of Medicaid is "workable."

Raggio said he has been told that Gibbons is doing only an analysis to determine what cost savings would result if the state rejected federal Medicaid dollars.

If Nevada stopped taking the money, then only about one-third of the current Medicaid recipients would continue to receive care, Raggio said.

A spokesman for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who guided the health care bill through the Senate, said Gibbons does not understand the ramifications of pulling out of Medicaid.

"By dropping out of Medicaid, he would only increase the number of uninsured in Nevada, which increases the number of people going to the emergency room for treatment, which is then paid for by taxpayers," Reid spokesman Jon Summers said.

As it is now, $2.9 billion will be spent in Nevada in the two-year budget period that ends June 30, 2011, to pay for Medicaid. Of that total, $868 million come from the state.

As the state has dropped deep into recession, the number of people receiving Medicaid has reached record totals, climbing 40,000 in the last year.

Geoffrey Lawrence, a fiscal policy analyst for the Nevada Policy Research Institute, the conservative think tank, said opting out of Medicaid would not result in thousands of Nevadans going without health care or leaving unpaid bills at emergency rooms.

Under provisions of the Senate-approved bill, residents without health care could receive federal subsidies to allow them to buy private health care policies, he said.

For the most poor, a 100 percent subsidy would be given. Others would pay up to 9.8 percent of their income.

"They probably would receive better health care than under Medicaid," Lawrence said.

He said some doctors refuse to treat Medicaid patients because payments for treatment are too low.

But Judith Solomon of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington, D.C., said the subsidies still would be too expensive for most poor people to pay. Dropping Medicaid would lead to even more people going without health insurance, she predicted.

"It would lead to a lot more children going without health care," she said.

Nevada Checkup, a health care program for poor children, is dependent on the state's participation in Medicaid, Solomon said.

Hospitals that now receive additional funds for treating large numbers of poor people would not receive the funds if the state dumped Medicaid, she said.

Based on preliminary search, Charles Duarte, administrator of the state Division of Health Care Financing and Policy, said it appears states can opt out of Medicaid, but he said he has not yet talked with staff lawyers.

Duarte, whose division runs the state's Medicaid program, said the U.S. Supreme Court, in a Virginia case, seemed to indicate states can pull out.

He said if Nevada dropped Medicaid, it still would offer free care to foster children, the disabled and seniors in nursing homes.

Burns said Gibbons is talking with lawyers to determine whether he can pull Nevada out of Medicaid on his own or would need approval of legislators during a special session.

Contact Capital Bureau Chief Ed Vogel at evogel@reviewjournal.com or 775-687-3901.

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Combat Vet wrote on April 11, 2010 10:37 AM: Oh sure gibs, win me over by kicking my combat veteran self to the curb and my family on health care... How about you give me job? or will you tear down my lemonaid stand too


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millie wrote on January 16, 2010 10:08 AM: someone in a prior comment mentioned hitler when referring to the governor. i was a true democrat but the statement should be sent to our corrupt polititians in washington who are trying to control everything.


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mildred reed wrote on January 16, 2010 09:56 AM: i agree with the governor because i have experienced a situation where an illegal person was given preferencial treatment than i was given. i am 79 years young and have paid taxes willingly at least 60 of those 79 years and i feel we are being discriminated against by our corrupt politicians in washington. i hope they are all voted out of office.the sooner the better. i wish there were someway to impeach the whole bunch.


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Don Evans wrote on January 16, 2010 03:28 AM: A Las Vegas based conservative think tank? Really? Where did they receive their respective educations, the local Blockbuster?

Let me guess, the only book at the "think tank" is Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"...in audio..

LOL..Couldn't resist. Thanks again for those education cuts, Jim.


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Krystal wrote on January 15, 2010 07:12 PM: I believe that if Gov. Jim Gibbons wants to pull the State of Nevada out of the Medicaid program it should be determined under a special session with approval from the legislators. This would allow for more opinions than just his own, to be viewed.

I do not believe that pulling out of Medicaid is a good idea. In the article it is stated that "because of the bad economy, the state can no longer cover most Medicaid recipients." However, then it goes on to state "the state would use its own money to continue to provide care for those who might otherwise be left behind.." These two statements seem contradictory of one another. If the state can no longer participate in a program that also receives federal funding, how is Nevada going to be able to take care of those that are ill.

It is well known that the economy in Nevada is not too great right now. However, we can not afford to drop out of Medicaid. This program provides help to those that truly need it. If we drop out, it seems as though people who need care such as seniors and children will go without. Then what will we do? Or rather, what will they do? The bills at the hospitals, nursing homes, and other treatment facilities will go unpaid and quite possibly hurt financial side of the medical field.

I think Gov. Jim Gibbons needs to seriously reconsider this thought. I also think that if this is a way to boost his poll ratings, then he needs to take a hard look at what we, the people of Nevada truly need and want from our Governor.

Sincerely.
Krystal


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Reid zombies strike again wrote on January 15, 2010 07:03 PM: IDIOTS! --->A spokesman for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who guided the health care bill through the Senate, said Gibbons does not understand the ramifications of pulling out of Medicaid.



"By dropping out of Medicaid, he would only increase the number of uninsured in Nevada, which increases the number of people going to the emergency room for treatment, which is then paid for by taxpayers," Reid spokesman Jon Summers said.


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free rides on your nickel wrote on January 15, 2010 06:59 PM: receive federal subsidies ???

Who the hell is paying for this? Morons should not be allowed to breed. The idiots sterilzing dog/cat are doing the wrong species.


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Reid zombies strike again wrote on January 15, 2010 06:56 PM: IDIOTS! --->A spokesman for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who guided the health care bill through the Senate, said Gibbons does not understand the ramifications of pulling out of Medicaid.

"By dropping out of Medicaid, he would only increase the number of uninsured in Nevada, which increases the number of people going to the emergency room for treatment, which is then paid for by taxpayers," Reid spokesman Jon Summers said.


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Send them to California wrote on January 15, 2010 06:55 PM: Just like the so-called "homeless", we can give these Medicaid people a free bus ticket to California where they will be welcomed with bigger payments than they can suck out of Nevada taxpayers. The Californians love to work and give their money to the government.


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free wrote on January 15, 2010 06:51 PM: Medicaid program, which provides free health care ???


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