Josie wrote on November 10, 2009 02:30 PM: Mike & Not Rocket Science...you're both wrong! Obama's kids got the H1N1 vaccine in October when it became available to othe Washington D.C. children.

things that make you go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm." wrote on November 10, 2009 02:07 PM: A friend of mine who is a doctor's wife is recovering from the flu. She said they don't know which one it was, since she declined to be tested. So if a doctor couldn't tell which one it was, doesn't that mean that both flus appear the same and not one 10x worse?

Okay I will wrote on November 10, 2009 12:36 PM: Local Practioner--done deal! I will let you know my "stats", but I will need a number or email to get ahold of you. What do you say?

Local Practioner wrote on November 10, 2009 10:30 AM: Tell ya what, next time you actually care for and see first hand the next H1N1 death in your ICU, come back and tell me how well your "stats" comfort the family of the dying child/adult, or the pregnant women who loses her baby and ends up on life support.

Next time you see how the chest X-ray evolves within 72 hours of the person hitting the emergency room as compared to your "regular" flu patient, let me know how your "stats" do for you.

Thumbs Down For CDC wrote on November 10, 2009 10:13 AM: You want to see stupidity? Hey! Lets create flu strains that dont exist to see if we can make a horribly deadly one (see quote from WSJ at bottom)!!! WOO HOO!

In 1977 when a H1N1 virus hit the world starting in Russia, it was determined its structure was so like the 1957 one that the only place it could have come from was an accidental lab release.

Everyone recall killer bees? Another man made accidental release from a lab.

What stupid human award should go to scientists trying to create something that could wipe everyone out??? Well, the award goes to the CDC...see below

-----------------------

"Scientists at the CDC recently launched experiments in the agency’s labs in which they infected ferrets with both the new H1N1 virus and the highly lethal H5N1 avian flu virus to see if they might “reassort” to create a new hybrid."

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2009/09/17/more-deadly-swine-flu-cdc-mixes-h1n1-h5n1-viruses-in-tests/

Local Practitioner Scare Tactics wrote on November 10, 2009 10:07 AM: "Sorry to tell you, but the majority of you are WRONG. This strain of flu attacks the lungs ten times worse than the "regular" flu. That's why people with underlying medical conditions are so much more at risk."

-------------------------
WRONG! If is not 10x worse.

It is because those with underlying medical conditions have no natural immunity or vaccine created immunity to H1N1.

While a healthy person can fight off a novel virus, it is harder for someone with medical problems. Period.

If the actual virus were 10x on the lungs, healthy people would also be dying at a larger rate and they are not.

no more no less. IT IS NOT MORE DEADLY IN ITS STRUCTURE!

It is more deadly because more people have no immunity so more people get it and more people then die from it.

Mathematics.....

One this one rips through the population, etc. we will not have a problem until a generation or two down the road when it comes around again and no one has contacted it in their lifetime

Not Rocket Science wrote on November 10, 2009 10:02 AM: People, this is not brain surgery.

The reason more people are getting it or dying from it is because except for some persons in the population (over 65 and those that got a H1N1 variant in the 1957 and 1977 pandemics), there is no natural immunity. That's it.

This does not mean it is a deadly virus in its structure.

It is more deadly due to a lack of immunity.

Thus it hits pregnant women more because 1) they like almost everyone else has no immunity AND 2)pregnancy causes a variety of changes in the body, most notably decreased lung capacity, along with increased cardiac output and oxygen consumption, it puts pregnant women at high risk for complications. In addition, parts of the mother's immune system are selectively suppressed, a process that offers essential protection to the fetus, but decreases the mother's ability to fight off infection.

Again, this is not a more deadly flu virus, just one that more people will get.



Mike - The reason Obamas kid have not been vaccinated is because they are outside the groups who are suppose to receive the shot.

As far as an unborn child dying from the vaccine, did you just pick it up on flu paranoia websites because it did not happen.

does harrah's asbestos affect the lungs of employee's and customers just about the same . wrote on November 10, 2009 09:43 AM:
until long after exposure is forgotten, the illness manifests itself.

educate yourself wrote on November 10, 2009 09:40 AM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322uZ5OO-WE

Local Practioner wrote on November 10, 2009 09:22 AM: Sorry to tell you, but the majority of you are WRONG. This strain of flu attacks the lungs ten times worse than the "regular" flu. That's why people with underlying medical conditions are so much more at risk. Children/Adults with asthma, anyone with anything that compromises the heart/lungs need to be immunized. I was in line just like everyone else getting my children immunized.

The worst cases I have seen and cared for have been pregnant women. And NO you don't see what happens to them from the common flu!! Please stop treating everything as a conspiracy - this IS a pandemic that can easily be stifled IF people take the time to protect themselves, their children (and unborn children).

Read All Comments