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Health care reform supported

Demonstrators tell of having to choose between medical treatments, going broke







Ruth Quigley supports health care reform that will keep people from having to choose between cancer treatments and going broke.

It's a choice she watched her brother-in-law make before he died of cancer that spread between his back and internal organs.


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"He made a choice to keep his home, as opposed to spending everything he had for health care," said Quigley, 59.

Without insurance, Quigley's brother-in-law, a longtime Las Vegas musician, was forced to seek costly care in emergency rooms.

"They treat symptoms," she said of emergency care. "They treated his pain and sent him home."

Quigley was one of about 30 to 40 people, based on an 11:15 a.m. count, who demonstrated Tuesday in favor of health care reform outside the Las Vegas headquarters for UnitedHealth Group.

Organizers from the Progressive Leadership Alliance of Nevada coordinated the demonstration as part of Health Care for America Now, a national campaign in favor of reform.

"There are a lot of people who do have health insurance and wind up going bankrupt. They wind up dying because their coverage was denied," event organizer Michael Ginsburg said.

The national organization supporting actions such as the one Tuesday on Tenaya Way supports health care reform proposals that include a government-run option for insurance, standard health benefits that cover preventive care and treatment for chronic conditions, and premiums based on people's ability to pay.

Part of the demonstration in Las Vegas included demands for UnitedHealth, a private insurance provider, to not use its funds to oppose reform or to enlist employees in opposition efforts.

A flier distributed to demonstrators said UnitedHealth has spent $7.33 million on federal lobbying efforts since January 2008.

Other demands for UnitedHealth included not dropping coverage for pre-existing medical conditions or offering financial or other incentives to employees for denying insurance claims.

A spokesman for UnitedHealth said the company doesn't offer such incentives, nor does it force employees to oppose health care reform efforts in Congress.

"Those accusations were absolutely false," UnitedHealth spokesman Peter O'Neill said.

In a written statement, the company said: "We support, along with our industry partners, reform proposals that would do away with pre-existing condition limitations and bring everyone into the system."

Quigley, a retired teacher, says she doubts reform will be effective if it doesn't include a government-run option to compete with the private sector.

"I'm a real free-market person, but maybe health care shouldn't be a free market, because they are not doing a good job," she said. "Our firemen are not free market. Our policemen are not free market. And those are good things."

Contact reporter Benjamin Spillman at bspillman@reviewjournal.com or 702-477-3861.

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Julie wrote on September 24, 2009 08:14 PM: To Greg. I can also give you a list of people who are for this and how they stand to benefit. We could go back and forth all day. (CZARS etc)
Bottom line both sides need to step back. We need affordable health care but we don't need the government taking over 1/6 of our economy and this is what I believe this public option would eventually lead to.


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Greg wrote on September 24, 2009 12:34 AM: RE: Larry

You are correct that Big Tobacco is opposed to healthcare reform, because the more federal government gets involved in cost analysis (the national healthcare database funding is already approved) the more they fear increased regulation-taxation on their product, which contributes to chronic healthcare costs. They were very involved in funding defeat of Hillarycare.

RE: Julie

You are correct that SEIU is funding and organizing to support healthcare reform, especially a public option.

Now, lets look at who is behind opposition, including:

First, Frank Luntz, with ties to Newt Gingrich, former Gingrich pollster, see 94 Contract with America. He wrote initial strategy. Gingrich would like a second Contract with America for 2010 or 2012, possible run for Republican Nomination.

Second, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich and Jim Boehmer, who want a return to power in 2012.

Third, Rick Scott, former CEO of Columbus-HCA, the world's largest hospital corporation. Hospital providers are not per se opposed to reform, some support it fully. But, not Scott, who is funding Conservatives For Patients Rights ("CPR"). Scott is no longer with Columbus, outed after the company paid 1.7 billion in fines for overcharging Medicare, criminal fraud. Scott is back in the game though, with clinics.

Fourth, Betsy McCaughey, the "early messenger ("person who kicks off", in football language) got the coded messages airborne in mid July by making false, outlandish statements about mandatory end of life counseling, which were followed up by more outlandish statements from Palin, Boehner and others about "death panels" and "mercy killing". McCaughey worked with big tobacco to defeat Hillarycare.

Fifth, Tim Phillips and Americans for Prosperity. Phillips worked for Bush 43 in 2000, a noted smear tactician.

See continuation of list with second post further below.


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Rob L. wrote on September 23, 2009 09:54 PM: Hey Fred, Still wondering if you sent back the GWB tax cut? The silence is deafening...

You did lecture us "radical-individualist anarchist-libertarian cons" that if you dont like a benefit yet use it, youre a hypocrite...


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Bob wrote on September 23, 2009 09:24 PM: Here are my statistics $1440.00 per year for a PPO plan consisting of hundreds of doctors to chose from. I don't wait in the E.R. I go to Urgent Care to get x-rays and check ups. Democratic penalty for not carrying the mandated health insurance (college students) $7500.00. Looks like private insurance is much less than that of the bureaucratic option. Also lets cover illegal immigrants maybe your a union guy that doesent pay any premiums. Tax the unions since they make 40% more than the common folk, have them and Obama pay for this government healtcare mandate. Lets change how the whole entire health care system for less than 10% of the unisured. Makes sense to me.


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Bob wrote on September 23, 2009 09:17 PM: Oh Yeah, enjoy Costa Rica fair and balanced Frederica.


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wiplash wrote on September 23, 2009 09:16 PM: You have to scroll to the bottom and click on "Read all comments" to get the full story. Ya gotta love the Media!


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Bob wrote on September 23, 2009 09:09 PM: The last time I checked we live in the United States and every emergency room in our great Country must treat you with or without insurance. We also have a little thing called medical bankruptcy so your house and 401k will remain yours not matter what. Let's not reinvent the wheel. Give everyone medicaid if you want everyone to be covered. OR LET EVERYONE IN AMERICA VOTE! Taxiation without representation is what these democrats are doing. Vote them out in 2010 specifically Harry Reid.


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Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on September 23, 2009 06:39 PM: "FandBFred your a dolt wrote on September 23, 2009 10:10 AM: Fair n Balance you must have been a tot ten years ago, at the time of the televised health care Princess Di received after the crash. What chance did she have in an ambulance, that took hours, to get to a hospital only blocks away?"

Please cite as many CREDIBLE sources as possible supporting the assertion above.

From what I understand, the force of impact perforated her aorta. She could have been beamed over to a fully prepped and dressed cardiac team and still be dead meat on arrival.

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, and that's why the AM radio listening cons are so DANGEROUS. These rabble are so easily roused.

"Hey Fred wrote on September 23, 2009 10:38 AM: Fair and Balanced- "Stealing is Bad", you say.I knew we were in agreement. So you are ready to stop the theft."

Yep, it's time the insurance companies earn their money. No, actually, that's IMPOSSIBLE! Just look at the evidence. All they can do is steal, which is why six insurance company lobbyists for every member of Congress have been running all over the Hill for the last few months.

"I am sure you agree that one is entitled to live off others."

Six health insurance lobbyists for each and every member of Congress are parasites sucking your blood.

You are SO stupid.


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Fair and Balanced Fred wrote on September 23, 2009 06:23 PM: "Bob wrote on September 23, 2009 02:49 PM: I support United Health."

What are United Health's statistical outcomes as opposed to, say France or one of the top plans in any of the industrialized nations without the ripoff insurance company US system?

Numbers, please.

United now enjoys a near monopoly in the Valley. That's the free market, Republicon style.

Q: How do the insurers ensure they make top dollar?

A: You get sick, they don't pay!

You get sick, you lose your house. Meantime, they hire six lobbyists for each and every member of Congress (true).

Have a nice life, and kiss your house, and your behind, goodbye.

And stop picking on those poor, poor insurance companies that give us the worst outcomes per dollar spent in the industrialized world!

Maybe I will retire to Costa Rica.


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nv33 wrote on September 23, 2009 05:43 PM: BAIL EM OUT! ????

Hell, back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it. They failed and it closed. Now we are trusting the economy of our country, our banking system, our auto industry and possibly our health plans to the same nit-wits who couldn't make money running a whore house and selling whiskey!"

"In God We Trust
what makes them think they can run the healthcare system they have taken over the auto industry and the banking lets see how messed up they get are county


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