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Maglev train plan takes a puzzling turn

Federal agency says proposal has not received funds, despite governor's claim

The magnetic levitation train proposal appeared to glide ahead of its rival DesertXpress when the governor announced Wednesday that the Federal Railroad Administration released $45 million to Nevada transportation officials to begin the project.

But the "maglev" train's momentum was stalled Thursday when the railroad administration made an announcement of its own: Gibbons' declaration was not true.


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"The Federal Railroad Administration has made neither an award nor an announcement with regard to funding for maglev development in Nevada," said spokesman Mark Paustenbach.

Maglev is competing with DesertXpress to provide residents a high-speed train between Southern California and Las Vegas.

Gibbons' spokesman, Daniel Burns, acknowledged Thursday that the state has not yet received the $45 million, but he expects it to be dedicated to the California-Nevada Interstate Maglev Project next week.

"The package isn't going to arrive until next week, but this deal is done," Burns said, adding that construction could begin in 18 months.

Gibbons' premature announcement and subsequent comments about Sen. Harry Reid's leadership has sparked a feud between the governor and the Senate majority leader.

Reid set aside $45 million for the maglev project more than a year ago. In July, Reid expressed frustration that the maglev project had made no progress and had yet to secure the required 20 percent match in private funding. Reid publicly supported the DesertXpress plan.

"Maglev has been talking about it for 30 years, but they have not made any progress on it," Reid spokesman Jon Summers said. "It's the reason he changed his support to DesertXpress. They've made more progress the last couple years than maglev has in the last 30."

Reid said he preferred the privately funded DesertXpress and wants to use the $45 million earmarked for maglev on other transportation projects throughout the state, Summers said.

The maglev train, powered by magnets to suspend the cars above a guideway, would provide an 81-minute trip to Anaheim, Calif., at speeds of 310 miles per hour. The first segment of the railway would travel to Primm.

The DesertXpress would travel on steel wheels and operate at speeds up to 150 miles per hour. It would ultimately deliver passengers to various areas of Southern California after a new transfer station is built in Palmdale, Calif. Initially, the train will provide a 84-minute ride to Victorville, Calif.

On Thursday, the train war opened up an opportunity for the two politicians and their parties to rail about each other.

"How can you stand in the way of this type of project?" Burns said. "It creates jobs and brings in tourists. Those are the two things the governor is focusing on right now. Those are the two things Sen. Reid should be focusing on right now if he cares about the people of Nevada."

Summers reiterated that Reid worked to secure the $45 million with those same priorities in mind.

"He just wants to get something done and create jobs in the process," Summers said. "Right now, it appears to be DesertXpress."

Phoebe Sweet, communication director for the state's Democratic Party, also chimed in, criticizing Gibbons for taking credit for securing stimulus funding and failing to expeditiously spend the money on transportation projects.

"For Gibbons to crow about securing funding he not only had nothing to do with, but actually opposed at one point, would ordinarily be laughable," Sweet said. "But when the state is lagging behind on spending federal stimulus dollars designed to create jobs while Nevada's unemployment rate tops 12 percent, it's practically criminal."

Burns said Gibbons is "mystified" that Reid will no longer support the maglev project.

"The governor doesn't understand why the senator seems to be married to the older technology," Burns said. "It's the difference between a covered wagon and a NASCAR race car."

Reid, according to Summers, doesn't care which technology is chosen as long as something is built soon.

"For him, the technology is secondary; it's just getting the job done," Summers said.

Contact reporter Adrienne Packer at apacker@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2904.

comments about Sen. Harry Reid's leadership has sparked a feud between the governor and the Senate majority leader.

Reid set aside $45 million for the maglev project more than a year ago. In July, Reid expressed frustration that the maglev project had made no progress and had yet to secure the required 20 percent match in private funding. Reid publicly supported the DesertXpress plan.

"Maglev has been talking about it for 30 years, but they have not made any progress on it," Reid spokesman Jon Summers said. "It's the reason he changed his support to DesertXpress. They've made more progress the last couple years than maglev has in the last 30."

Reid said he preferred the privately funded DesertXpress and wants to use the $45 million earmarked for maglev on other transportation projects throughout the state, Summers said.

The maglev train, powered by magnets to suspend the cars above a guideway, would provide an 81-minute trip to Anaheim, Calif., at speeds of 310 miles per hour. The first segment of the railway would travel to Primm.

The DesertXpress would travel on steel wheels and operate at speeds up to 150 miles per hour. It would ultimately deliver passengers to various areas of Southern California after a new transfer station is built in Palmdale, Calif. Initially, the train will provide a 84-minute ride to Victorville, Calif.

On Thursday, the train war opened up an opportunity for the two politicians and their parties to rail about each other.

"How can you stand in the way of this type of project?" Burns said. "It creates jobs and brings in tourists. Those are the two things the governor is focusing on right now. Those are the two things Sen. Reid should be focusing on right now if he cares about the people of Nevada."

Summers reiterated that Reid worked to secure the $45 million with those same priorities in mind.

"He just wants to get something done and create jobs in the process," Summers said. "Right now, it appears to be DesertXpress."

Phoebe Sweet, communication director for the state's Democratic Party, also chimed in, criticizing Gibbons for taking credit for securing stimulus funding and failing to expeditiously spend the money on transportation projects.

"For Gibbons to crow about securing funding he not only had nothing to do with, but actually opposed at one point, would ordinarily be laughable," Sweet said. "But when the state is lagging behind on spending federal stimulus dollars designed to create jobs while Nevada's unemployment rate tops 12 percent, it's practically criminal."

Burns said Gibbons is "mystified" that Reid will no longer support the maglev project.

"The governor doesn't understand why the senator seems to be married to the older technology," Burns said. "It's the difference between a covered wagon and a NASCAR race car."

Reid, according to Summers, doesn't care which technology is chosen as long as something is built soon.

"For him, the technology is secondary; it's just getting the job done," Summers said.

Contact reporter Adrienne Packer at apacker@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2904.

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guo wrote on November 08, 2009 06:58 PM: In Obama' visiting of China November will discuss the financial cooperation and construction cooperation in maglev . Maglev construction will start


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Patty wrote on September 27, 2009 02:31 PM: You can read more details "Transportation secretary: Gibbons ‘not accurate’ in noting maglev earmark"
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/sep/23/transportation-secretary-gibbons-not-accurate-noti/


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Yaqub wrote on September 23, 2009 09:34 AM: To Grrr:
"Most people who like the idea of Maglev don't realize how much power it takes to levitate a few hundred tons of train and then make it move. Studies have shown that a Maglev train would use somewhere around 47 times more power than the French TGV running at 200 mph. "

- It is pure nonsence - I would love to see such research, because it is known fact, that Maglev trains are more energy efficient than HSR and their maintenance costs are lower too. The only thing more expensive is construction, but the difference is not big. Why don't you study the facts, before you write about it?

"A few years ago, A rock the size of a fist caused a Maglev test train in Germany running at speed to derail, totally destroying the train and the guiderail, causing tens of millions in damage to the system alone."

- such think has never happened. I don't know why you lie like that. There was an accident on the test track, but it was completely different from what you say. The maintenance car was left behind on the test track and the Transrapid hit it at full speed. The maglev train did not derail!


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BOB2 wrote on September 19, 2009 12:02 PM: "A done deal" for a MagLev application that has yet even to be submitted and evaluated, yet? A very fishy way to run a Federal government grant and hand out our taxpayer dollars, but unfortnuately not that uncommon with dubious purely political projects like this? So maybe this famously "honest" Governor is right and the "fix" is already in?


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GRRR wrote on September 18, 2009 09:50 PM: Most people who like the idea of Maglev don't realize how much power it takes to levitate a few hundred tons of train and then make it move. Studies have shown that a Maglev train would use somewhere around 47 times more power than the French TGV running at 200 mph. uses. For a line between Las Vegas and L.A., you'd probably need two or three full size power plants to come online just to power the system. This fact is something the Maglev backers convenienty leave out when touting this technology. Until the day when they come up with viable superconductors, Maglevs aren't nearly as green as most people think they are. Then there are maintainance issues. The track (guideway) has to be perfect, has to be kept in perfect shape, have absolutely no debris on it, etc. A few years ago, A rock the size of a fist caused a Maglev test train in Germany running at speed to derail, totally destroying the train and the guiderail, causing tens of millions in damage to the system alone. Imagine what would have happened if this train was loaded with people. Now how are you going to keep a few hundred miles of track in the desert perfectly clean? Maglev technology is a non-starter, in my book.


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Michael Carey wrote on September 18, 2009 05:54 PM: How can anyone not care about the technology? Senator Reid should be concerned with all aspects involved, especially when spending $45 million dollars. Getting a job completed should be secondary to getting it done properly. Politicians need to take the best course for the people and our future. Stop spending just to spend!!!


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paco wrote on September 18, 2009 05:27 PM: There are a couple of factors that should be considered. (1) The inexpensive plane flights may not be available in 10 years, as both the Southern California and Vegas airports hit saturation. (2) Although the DESERTXPRESS will have almost no appeal to couples or families (too much money for too little benefit), it will have great appeal to single drivers who will often receive partial or full subsidies for their train ticket from the casinos. The train ticket will not cost much more than gasoline to go 400 miles (r/t), and with a 25%-50% discount from the casinos it will cost less. That should help everyone make better use of the interstate.
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Although a maglev with several stops from Disneyland to Vegas will have much wider appeal, the estimated $12 to $15 billion cost will drive up ticket prices to the point that it may price itself out of the market. The $3 to $4 billion of the DESERTXPRESS will be much easier to finance.
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AMTRAK is not relevant because the trains were slowing to 30 mph through the pass. The travel time was much too long, and the frequency much too low.


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d wrote on September 18, 2009 04:50 PM: Amtrac makes no money, Amtrac pulled out of Vegas. It would have to be fast, fuel efficient, and green to be worth the effort, so it would have to be a magnet train. call whoever built the ones in europe or aisia. have them make us one, since they have a ton of them already.


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Waste of Money wrote on September 18, 2009 03:34 PM: Talk about a WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

Reid and Gibbons just want to ONE-UP THE OTHER because this is the only way now that either one of them can get their pee-pees hard.

Mormons don't have sex except to create a child.


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BO wrote on September 18, 2009 03:32 PM: I hate to admit it but I'm with Hairy Reid on this issue. The steel wheeled train sounds plenty fast enough and at a reasonable cost compared to the mag-lev.

The relatively short distance from Las Vegas to Salt Lake, LA, Phoenix and even San Diego make perfect sense for a train traveling 150 mph. As for train stations why not build them onto existing airports like LAX or Mc Caren.. Everything the traveler needs is already in place such as ground transportation, baggage handling, short and long term parking and so on.


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