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BUDGET CRUNCH: Schools superintendent says proposed cuts would cost 2,322 teacher jobs

Official tells legislators any cut in teachers' pay must come in collective bargaining

CARSON CITY -- The president of the state teachers union refused Thursday to support cutting teacher salaries to help solve Nevada's $881 million tax revenue shortfall unless the cut is approved through collective bargaining negotiations.

"I am here today to tell you enough is enough," Nevada State Education Association President Lynn Warne told the Legislature's Interim Finance Committee. "You are asking an already strained system to absorb more devastation. We are all tired of the hand-wringing that there is no appetite for tax increases."


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Gov. Jim Gibbons and legislators have agreed not to propose tax increases to cover the shortfall because the state's unemployment rate is 13 percent and private businesses are laying off workers.

Warne made her comments after Clark County School District Superintendent Walt Rulffes said he would have to lay off 2,322 teachers and increase class sizes by six students if he must cut spending by 10 percent because of declining state tax revenue. He later clarified that this would occur if the cuts were made only in teaching positions, but in reality, cuts would be made in support and administrative personnel too.

He said his district, the fifth largest in the nation, instead could shorten its school year by 17 days if legislators and the governor agree and choose that option as a way to reduce $150 million of the shortfall.

Teacher pay in Nevada averaged $48,257 a year in 2008, below the $50,852 national average, according to a recent Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce study.

"We are just not doing right by our kids," Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, D-Las Vegas, said after Rulffes spoke.

Buckley said the superintendent's layoff estimates were based on a 10 percent reduction when the Legislature and Gibbons must make budget reductions of more than 20 percent to balance the budget between March and June 30, 2011.

"Desperate times call for desperate measures," she said. "If your cut level is doubled, that is 4,000 teachers (laid off)."

As an alternative, she said the state might have no choice but to take money that school districts have set aside through voter-approved bond issues that would have been spent building new schools.

"I am not advocating it," Buckley replied. "I am merely trying to get all of our options on the table."

Gibbons, who attended part of Thursday's hearing, is seeking a $166 million, 10 percent, reduction in public education spending.

He will deliver a special State of the State address at 6 p.m. Monday during which he will outline how he proposes to cut the nearly $900 million in state spending. He will announce when he will call the Legislature into special session to approve cuts.

Rather than laying off employees, Rulffes prefers a "shared sacrifice" by school employees that would include lower pay, a shorter school year and other cuts.

He used only teachers in his example of cutting the district budget, but Rulffes said any layoffs also would include administrators and other school workers.

The superintendent told legislators he can lay off workers on his own, but reducing the school year and cutting salaries needs the approval of school employee unions.

Gibbons announced earlier this week that he favors the temporary suspension of collective bargaining rights as a way to secure wage and other concessions. He also spoke of cutting salaries of state workers and teachers by 6 percent.

But Warne, whose union represents more than 29,000 teachers and education professionals in the state, said Thursday the state by can suspend collective bargaining for natural disasters, riots and other emergencies only, not for financial reasons.

State Senate Minority Leader Bill Raggio, R-Reno, asked her to make salary concessions, noting that he is the father of a teacher and that he does not want massive education layoffs anywhere in Nevada.

"Unless your association wants to reopen contract negotiations and agree to salary reductions, the alternative is layoffs," Raggio said.

Warne responded that people should not fear the negotiation process. She said that the union agreed to unpaid furloughs of teachers and other employees in White Pine and other small counties.

If the union could look at all school financial resources, then Warne said union officials might find a source of revenue available to prevent cuts.

"Everything should be on the table," she said.

Before renegotiating contracts, Rulffes said superintendents need the Legislature to declare a "fiscal emergency" to give them "legislative cover" in such talks.

The negotiations could last months, and if an impasse occurred, an arbitrator would be chosen. There is no guarantee the arbitrator would agree with the school districts, he said.

Jim Wells, a deputy superintendent with the Nevada Department of Education, said Hawaii, Oregon, Georgia and North Carolina have cut their school years because of declining revenue.

Nevada could save $13 million a day in salaries and benefits to school employees if it took the same option.

Wells said that by law, Nevada's school year is 180 days, but depending on the districts, there are as many as four non-instructional days when students are not present.

In some districts, such as Clark County, the four non-instructional days are on top of the 180 instructional days.

"This is where we should look" if cuts are necessary," state Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford said about the non-instructional days.

Rulffes said the school superintendents around the state don't want to be told how to cut spending; they want to know how much will be cut from their budgets and then make the decisions themselves.

Eliminating all athletics in his district would save only $5 million, and ending band and other after school activities would save only $6 million, Rulffes said.

Review-Journal writer James Haug contributed to this report. Contact reporter Capital Bureau Chief Ed Vogel at evogel@reviewjournal.com or 775-687-3901.

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jack oh lantern is a troller and a hater wrote on February 06, 2010 04:11 PM: "Considering the horrible teaching job Nevada teachers have done, how much worse could it be? Nevada consistently is at the bottom of the list when it comes to academic performance, and they really should have lost their jobs along time ago."

@ John

There are dieting methods that preserve gray matter you know. (Your post is laughable and worth only a few keystrokes. Go away while you can still manage to put one foot in front of the other.)


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Georgew6 wrote on February 06, 2010 02:33 PM: When are legislators going to be brave and find positive solutions to budget needs for education and other essential services. Yes, education is essential and cutting salaries, faculties, class days is a negative approach that puts off the real solutions for only a short time and they will be worse in the future.


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dr. Baf wrote on February 06, 2010 10:05 AM: They always threaten us taxpayers with teacher layoffs. Why don't the over paid
administrators lay each other off and stop the threats.


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John wrote on February 06, 2010 12:50 AM: Considering the horrible teaching job Nevada teachers have done, how much worse could it be? Nevada consistently is at the bottom of the list when it comes to academic performance, and they really should have lost their jobs along time ago. Nevada taxpayers have never got their money’s worth in education. The money has been wasted and mishandled for years. I have personally witnessed the incompetence that is the Nevada teachers association. I went to my son’s school a few times and was shocked. Teachers walking around with their Starbucks, late for every meeting I had with them. They had an elitist attitude like they were doing me a favor by meeting with me. They acted like I had nerve questioning anything about what was being taught. We need quality teachers in Nevada, not just a bunch of lazy, greedy, overpaid teachers trying to drain even more from the system.


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Rob wrote on February 06, 2010 12:24 AM: Drop the in-services. They are a waste of money and time. Make those 4 days also unpaid days off for administrators too. (By and by--why are administrators represented by a union? Even management is not held accountable in CCSD.)


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tax paying citizen wrote on February 05, 2010 11:28 PM: People in every other profession and field are suffering layoffs and pay cuts, furloughs, and reduction in benefits. In reading the paper, it is apparent that all walks of life are suffering but adjusting to these facts of life. But when it comes to government employees, like the fire and police and now teachers, they seem to feel above the current economic conditions and demand that they suffer no changes that the rest of the community are suffering. They reason that they are somehow different than the taxpayers who pay their salary and they hide behind the students, that they are so important because of the students, or the fires, or the criminals, or the whatever it is. Because of this, they reason that taxes should just be raised so that they don't have to suffer any pay cuts or reduction in benefits. But who is going to pay those taxes? It will come from FEWER taxpayers who, themselves, are making less or perhaps not even working. How is that fair or reasonable? Get real. No one wants to take a pay cut and everybody says they can't pay their bills if they take a pay cut, but the rest of the community is getting by on less. Teachers and police and firemen can too. If you are a government employee and don't think you are paid enough, then quit your job and go out in the real world and simply find a higher paying job that offers all the benefits and security of a government job. Oh yeah, you won't because those jobs don't exist. You all should be grateful for your positions and stop whining when so many others have it so much worse.


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goldilox wrote on February 05, 2010 09:43 PM: Imagine being with 20-30 kids who don't care one bit about their education and have no qualms about acting out, talking aloud, interrupting, cursing, using phones, and wandering the room at will when you're trying to teach the few who DO care. The boys will all be pro athletes and the girls will all be pop or movie stars (they claim) so why do they need an education? Then add the stress from state testing, threatened (and real) bodily harm and lawsuits. Finally, add all the other cr@p that teachers have to do besides teach.

My dad always said, if it was so easy, everyone would do it. All of you expectant mothers out there - ask yourself this question. Will your little Johnny and Mary have a teacher for every grade from K through 12? I would bet that the answer is NO!


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Las Vegas Firefighter wrote on February 05, 2010 09:16 PM: Cut the Teachers Pay and give us a 150% raise...we are Heroes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LVFD and the CCFD


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goldilox wrote on February 05, 2010 09:12 PM: The Michigan Lottery has contributed $15.2 billion to Michigan's educational system since 1972, including more than $600 million in 10 of the past 12 fiscal years.

Even if Nevada collected 1/10 of this amount, it would be $60 million per year that is not available now. Many people in the state don't want to spend time in casinos but they would help the state by purchasing lottery tickets.

Don't give me that crap "It only hurts the poor". What may I ask doesn't hurt the poor?


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GeorgeWashington wrote on February 05, 2010 08:44 PM: The NSEA is a worthless union. They are going to give in and allow the paycuts and layoffs to happen. Teachers are underpaid in Nevada by 9k compared to other states and state employees are paid 6% higher than other states. Why is it that the teacher with a lousy union has to take the hit? I think the teacher should rise up and strike. What is being proposed to teachers is illegal so why cant they strike to prevent this from happening? Nevada doesnt value education as it is now that it is 50th in the nation. People like reid and sandoval dont care. Sandoval has never gotten his hands dirty. Everything he has received in his life has been through appointment or serving for one of the biggest law firms in the state that represents the aryan brotherhood.. Reid is a daddys boy and we have seen what the reids have done to Nevada. HArry should of gotten the government to give NEvada billions in the early 80's when Harry said it was ok to stick yucca mountain here. He didnt even demand that the feds pay Nevada money for this. Rory cant even run UMC and is responsible for the firefighter pay debacle. My, my if my other founding fathers were around today they would not be very happy with whats happening in the state that gave their support to Lincoln during the Civil War.. Wake up NEVADA and take back your state by staying away from partisan politics. NO ONE HAS HEEDED my warning. These people have been in office before, some are still in office now and some people are looking for a new office to run for and look where we are now. Nevada is at an all time low.


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