Outlander wrote on November 07, 2007 06:00 PM: Huh, huh, read it again. The implication is that a consequence of taking the resourses of a region for the benefit of a far off place is to undermine economic stability and future growth in the colony (White Pine County), and to corrupt the colonist ((Las Vegas). This is the socioeconomic determinism characteristic of colonial rule around the world in the 18th & 19th centuries. and before. Historical analogies.

tim wrote on November 07, 2007 04:30 PM: desal plants is the best way to go, if we can build em for kuwait we can build em for cal. some lame pipeline aint gonna cut it.

douglas wrote on November 07, 2007 01:29 PM: the solutions are multiple, not just one emergency band-aid.

the pipeline, why not ? as long as the users ultimately pay, it's only a monetary issue.

the desal plant, even more than one in california [and mexico] will be needed for a long term potable water supply. that for the entire west coast, west of the rockies. that since all water, even that fought over, colorado water, is increasingly contaminated. the important concern is the power source for those plants.

conservation is the next requirement. it's beyond the current grass lawn "buy-back", though it's a start. water feature limitations at hotel/casino and amusement venues must use only "gray" [recycled] water. private pools must carry a substantial, more than present, water consumption fee. golf courses have to be limited. those are clearly poor uses for land in a period of limited water supply.

permitting for the pipeline and any desal plants has to be streamlined. no more of these intentionally obstructive law suits by protectors of threatened mosquitoes can be allowed to drive up costs. the classic examples were the multiple suits to prevent the us95 widening. those had little to do with some endangered weed or scorpion. rather they were to "control growth". if that were legitimate, then reducing the highways to only one lane in each direction would eliminate vehicular traffic. today's example is hapless harry's agenda to stall the yucca depository.

huh wrote on November 07, 2007 12:40 PM: outlander,we are a third world country now..look around you...

Marc D wrote on November 07, 2007 10:32 AM: WE COULD BUILD 4 DESALINATION PLANTS ON THE CALIFORNIA COAST FOR THAT MONEY AND TRADE THEM FOR LAKE MEAD WATER AND NOT DESTROY THE NORTHERN NEVADA WATERSHED.

AND THIS COST DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COST OF ALL THE LAW SUITS THAT WILL BE FILED TO STOP ALL THIS OR THE LAW SUITS AFTER THE FACT WHEN THE ACTUAL DAMAGES ARE SEEN.

Russ wrote on November 07, 2007 07:38 AM: Ok, then. Let's propose the Casino industry quit building so all the new jobs go away. Without the new jobs we could start to control growth in the valley and we wouldn't need more water. But, in Nevada with the minimal tax structure on casinos it will never happen. So live with it or keep the casinos from controling the state like they do now.

John F wrote on November 07, 2007 07:37 AM: You can't stop growth. People have the right to live where they want. A lot of them seem to want to live here.

Did anyone think to ask the citizens of White Pine County what they think of this idea? Of course, I'm sure we know even without asking.

Water is a commodity like any other except that it is essential for survival. So let's make sure everyone has enough to keep from dying and then charge the heck out of them for their lawns, swimming pools, etc.

It's the old supply/demand thing. Price is kept artificially low because water is a necessity. So let people have the first couple of hundred gallons or so each month at a low price, and then let the market determine what they pay for anything over that. I promise you'll see usage drop in a real hurry.

Outlander wrote on November 07, 2007 06:27 AM: You bet. Without a doubt. Stopping the growth is a real opportunity now, with the huge number of mortgage foreclosures, lots of houses already built without residents. Builders and construction workers can go to Southern California and rebuild after the fires. Set the limits.
The costs in dollars, exploitive destruction of White Pine County will escalate indefinitely for years to come. What SNEA wants to do to White Pine County smacks of old fashioned colonialism, which creates a "third world" economy, while "Rome burns". The world has rejected colonialism. Forget the pipeline. Do something else.

Bobby V. Luker wrote on November 07, 2007 05:11 AM: With any luck, the talk about the pipe line project could be enough to wake voters up and vote out all valley political encumbents. The simplest and cheapest way is just stop the out of control growth