Steve wrote on December 01, 2007 05:39 PM: Douglas,

That sounds great. However, you can bet that Congress will vote to prevent themselves from joining any healthcare plan just like they voted themselves an extremely exhorbitant retirement package instead of participating in Social Security. If they were required to participate in Social Security like everyone else, you would then see the program getting "fixed" ASAP.

douglas wrote on December 01, 2007 05:31 PM: there could be a silver lining if the "progressives" gain the white house.

promised is instant amnesty of the 10-20 million infiltrators already in hiding here, and the 50, 100 or more million who will instantly charge across the promised "open" borders. in those millions, there gotta be some energetic $10 an hour auto assembly line workers, mechanics, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, masons, equipment operators, painters, laborers, and such. say good bye to those $50-$100 plumber's ["portal to portal"], service calls. lotta those wrenches are likely mechanics rather than the usual suspect, parts replacers. mebbe with new car assembly line workers getting paid the same as the japanese and koreans, we could get back some of those sales lost to imports. and without the union dues, coffee "breaks", vacations, and pension funds to pay for, almost everyone will save. ['cept the union bosses, stewards who'll have to get some calluses on their hands instead of their cans].

though the american taxprayer would be mostly bankrupted by the free national health, leastwise all those politicians and fat cat union members would have to get in the same lines for healthcare as the rest of us. surely frau clinton's "universal" ["mandatory"] plan wouldn't discriminate against other citizens by excusing *any* citizens from enjoying that "new" level of care.

"what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander".

Rogelio P. Viado wrote on December 01, 2007 03:05 PM: Immigration enforcement at the local level helps us get rid of illegals who
are law breakers. We are supporting children of these illegals in public
schools where they throw the free food
in the trash cans, we teach them to read, write, and speak English, they demand interpreters on parent conferences, etc.

douglas wrote on December 01, 2007 02:16 PM: not so fast...

mebbe the poster *is* an "x cop"... from some country other than the u.s.

mebbe he's trying to get a job as a "cop" in the u.s. and needs the "progressive" promise of another instant amnesty to get the it.

Steve wrote on December 01, 2007 02:08 PM: Thomas L,

You need to change your comment to "idiots and morons are for open borders". Additionally, no one is talking about "immigrants"..the discussion is about ILLEGAL ALIENS. They also are NOT "undocumented workers". They are CRIMINAL, BORDER JUMPING, RIO GRANDE SWIMMING, ILLEGAL ALIENS! They are some of the most nasty, disgusting, useless filth ever put on the planet and their corpses should be flushed down the sewer where they belong.

Joe C wrote on December 01, 2007 11:32 AM: To X cop,

Although I think it’s highly un-likely your actually a x cop, because if you were, you would know that sixty percent of illegals no matter what nation they came use fake ID’s and work with one and collect social services with another.
Add the fact anyone who picks and chooses what laws they should obey and then demand rewards are not very good citizens; and in fact many cases are a true representation of the corrupted countries they left behind.
To bad you really aren’t an x cop or you would be aware of that.

tim wrote on December 01, 2007 11:30 AM: if your tired of our gov.not enforcing our laws check out NUMBERSUSA.COM over half million strong. you will suprised how effective it is. check it out and sign up you wont be disappointed.

X Cop wrote on December 01, 2007 10:56 AM: I think we should give all the ILLEGALS a job.The reason I say that you have all the lazy fat white trailer trash that is on welfare that don't want a job or will not take a job unless it is a union job.I say to the ILLEGALS you have my support.I support you just like Canada supports.Welcome to the UNITED STATES.

carlos wrote on December 01, 2007 10:26 AM: Why don't we let the park & rec police enforce the laws. They are gung ho about fishing w/o license in a pond, I'm sure they could handle it! I know just have the cops get 5$ for every illegal they deport. Do your job police! If someone has fake identification, arrest & deport them. Oh were not allowed to do that, GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

douglas wrote on December 01, 2007 08:55 AM: for starters, instead of "sweeps", at the very least, *any and all*, gubmit funded agencies which during the course of their normal business, discover illegal infiltrators, must contact whatever authorities. that'd include hospitals, schools, "welfare" agencies, charitable enterprises, etc.

the "progressives" of course will whine that their "pre-citizens" [hapless harry reid] are being "racially profiled" or that their "rights" [what rights can an infiltrator have ?], are being violated.

best spin i've noticed was an ad/interview by a reptile "immigration" lawyer. his excuses were twofold. that the immigration law was "too complicated" for simple law enforcement to "enforce". huh ? why doesn't that apply to *all* laws ? either the dude in the traffic stop has or hasn't identification. i needed i.d. to get a library card. was i being "profiled" or discriminated against ?

the second excuse was that the "immigrant community" wouldn't trust police if they would enforce or at least identify illegal infiltrators. who cares if criminals don't trust police ? if those "immigrant communities" didn't conceal, aid and abet, illegal infiltrators, they'd have nothing to fear.

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