David Johann wrote on February 06, 2008 10:18 PM: Okay, let's not weenie around. Herb speaks of Mitt Romney, a devout Mormon, and in the same breath speaks of the morality of monogamy. Uh, huh.

The patriarchs of Mitt Romney's faith, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had HOW MANY WIVES, HERB? How many? Too bad for all those deserving Mormon males without wives, wouldn't you say?

But let's take the matter in hand. I'm assuming those situations worked about as well for Joseph Smith's and Brigham Young's multiple wives and their offspring as the stories we have recently read about the Mormon cult in Hilldale, Utah and Colorado City, Arizona.

Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints.

Fundamentalist. As in getting down to the fundamental teaching.

While we shame Bill Clinton.

David Johann wrote on February 06, 2008 09:37 PM: Did Hillary "accept it?" They remained married, something a counseling man or woman of the cloth probably would have advised. It's hard to know what goes on with married couples behind closed doors: even the first married couple. When careers are involved, and a child, careers in the limelight . . . .

Martin Luther King Jr. reportedly had indiscretions. Should we denigrate the work he did that had nothing to do with that? Should we denigrate Corretta Scott? Did MLK contribute to the moral decline of this country, or, in the main, to it's elevation?

Kenneth Starr's seemingly unlimited investigation was supposed to be about Whitewater and the Rose Law firm, but somehow ended up with Monica Lewinsky. How?

How, Herb?

Jesus was big on forgiveness as are most true mystics / religious sages. More, the Bible says "judge not lest ye be judged."

It was ten years ago, Herb. Once again, get over it.

BTW, do we REALLY know what a GOOD FAMILY MAN Mr. Romney is? Do we for sure? He probably is, but his Mormon faith certainly is no guarantee. The busiest brothels in Nevada are on the Utah border.

Herb wrote on February 06, 2008 06:21 PM: I will never get over it David. Clinton's womanizing has contributed to the moral decay in this country. He has made this type of behavior socially acceptable. I respect good family men like Mitt Romney, I have the deepest animosity towards rotten cheating men like Bill Clinton and the backwards wives who accept it like Hillary Clinton.

Herb wrote on February 06, 2008 06:11 PM: Senate Republicans just blocked Dems attempt to lard up the stimulus package. This just goes to show that Reps are superior to Dems when it comes to cutting spending.

David Johann wrote on February 06, 2008 06:04 PM: Regarding Bill Clinton Herb, sez " . . . I loathe him for his womanizing . . ."

Generally, people who are sex shaming are sex obsessed and, at the same time, sex repressed.

Herb's counsel might sound like the "Church Lady" who warned us: "don't let your naughty parts get all tingly."

If Herb is a church-goin' man, I wonder what his religions says about forgiveness (??).

Monica Lewinsky was ten years ago, a mistake among two consenting adults. Get over it.

John F wrote on February 06, 2008 04:55 PM: Herb,

By your logic we would have had to invade Iraq as a way to support Israel's interests. But the invasion of Iraq was clearly contrary to Israel's interests. It has made the world a much more dangerous place for them. I have to admit, though, you may have a point. Invading Iraq was also clearly contrary to our interests, but we did it anyway. Who's to say the geniuses who came up with this idea also didn't think they'd be helping Israel?

Of course if we're going to help anyone in the Middle East, it might as well be the Israelis. Not only are they a democracy, but as the Arabs would say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Douglas Democrat wrote on February 06, 2008 04:14 PM: Herb,

"Blame the American people for insisting on compassion, if there were more purists like myself we wouldn't have a deficit."

Yeah, and I'd be DEAD because you'd gut the Medicare program that pays for my anti-rejection medicine (since private insurance will not cover me at all).

"We also should have expanded Gitmo and used more wanton torture."

Does the phrase WAR CRIMES mean anything to you? Torture is ILLEGAL under United States law and it is ILLEGAL under international law (including the Geneva conventions). Not to mention IT DOESN'T WORK! Never has, because the person will being tortured will say whatever he thinks his captor wants to hear to make it stop. NOT ONE AMERICAN LIFE has been saved by torturing a prisoner.

Do you have a soul at all? Or are you another hard-hearted bastard who only cares that you got yours?

Herb wrote on February 06, 2008 04:00 PM: John, Yes I believe we ran us the deficit in large part to make Israel safer. Things just didn't work out as planned, but that was the intention.

I wouldn't have invaded Iraq to begin with. If we really wanted to fight terrorism we would have left secular Iraq alone and gone after the radical Muslim countries. We also should have expanded Gitmo and used more wanton torture.

Herb wrote on February 06, 2008 03:48 PM: Douglas Democrat, why should I take blame for being a big spender? I could see it coming when he called himself a "compassionate conservative" during the 2000 election. My ideal candidate would say he has no compassion, wants to cut spending and taxes, and keep government as small as possible. The problem is this kind of candidate couldn't get elected. Blame the American people for insisting on compassion, if there were more purists like myself we wouldn't have a deficit.

Douglas Democrat wrote on February 06, 2008 03:00 PM: "He is the most liberal senator of them all."

Russ Feingold of Wisconsin and Bernie Sanders of Vermont want to have a few words with you. Obama isn't even in the top ten in terms of liberalism in the Senate, let alone #1.

And to try and say Bush's failings is because he's a "liberal disguised as a Republican" is pathetic. He's YOUR party's failure, YOU live with it.

And I'm sick of red-baiting. It's almost as bad as "Vote Republican or the EVIL Terrorists will kill you in your sleep" mantra. Please - find some new writers, your material went out with the 8-Track.

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