Fritz wrote on March 17, 2008 06:17 AM: Spot on again Sherm. This is a new angle to an age-old circumstance. You're correct about his wife. He should have his *** kicked for dragging her through his hog lot.

David Johann wrote on March 16, 2008 07:42 PM: Here's how Richard Milhous Nixon "took it like a Republican:"

"Nixon resigned the presidency in the face of likely impeachment by the United States House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate. His successor, Gerald Ford, issued a controversial pardon for any federal crimes Nixon may have committed."

On Watergate, "[Nixon] never admitted to criminal wrongdoing, although he later conceded errors of judgment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon

Here's a link to Tricky Dick's "I am not a crook" press conference video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxeFMHyOx3I

David Johann wrote on March 16, 2008 07:31 PM: Back to Reagan, here's the doozy:

"The charge has been made that the United States has shipped weapons to Iran as ransom payment for the release of American hostages in Lebanon, that the United States undercut its allies and secretly violated American policy against trafficking with terrorists.... Those charges are utterly false.... We did not--repeat--did not trade weapons or anything else for hostages, nor will we."
--President Reagan, television address, November 13, 1986

http://www.geocities.com/thereaganyears/foreignpolicy.htm

Todd W. Byington wrote on March 16, 2008 06:51 PM: What a long memory Mr, Fredricks has.This is no surprise. He is a devout Clinton hater, maybe even a pious Baptist as well but still has forgotten (conveinenently) about the equally pious and adulterous congressman David Vitter. This adulterer is still in denial and employed. After Republicans get caught do they call their Pastors? Or should they take the advice from men of equally low stature like Rev. Ted Haggard or Rev. Jim Baker? Please remember Mr. Fredricks that there are lots of us who live virtuous lives everyday and those that work in politics or for rags like the "Republican" Journal. Keep up the good work. F.Y.I. Don't use your VISA the next time your out at Sheri's Ranch.

David Johann wrote on March 16, 2008 06:33 PM: This editorial is just so stupid (another one typed out in a 1/2 hour over Sherm's Saturday morning cup of joe). It's just so hard to know where to start, but if we go to this site, we see how George W. Bush repeatedly lied about his drunk driving conviction in addition to his many, many more lies:

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#drunk

At times like this, I love to compare the morals of William Jefferson Clinton to those of the right wing darling, Ronald Wilson Reagan:

Number of Reagan administration era convictions in the Iran-contra scandal: 14 (two overturned on appeal).

Number of Reagan officials convicted for illegal lobbying: 2 (Michael Deaver; Lyn Nofziger, overturned on appeal).

Number of Reagan officials convicted in Housing and Urban Development scandal: 16.

Total number Reagan era convictions: 32 (29 -- arrived at by subtracting the 3 overturned cases).

In addition, Bush [Reagan's vice-president who later became president] pardoned Reagan's Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, indicted on 5 charges.

Moreover, the record of actual convictions doesn't tell the whole story. Over 30 additional Reagan appointees resigned or were fired following charges of legal or ethical misconduct, including Secretary of Interior James Watt, Secretary of Interior Raymond Donovan, CIA Director William Casey and EPA Administrator Anne Burford. Many dozens more were investigated.

Contrast this to the number of Clinton officials indicted or convicted in Whitewater, Travel Office, FBI files, Monica Lewinsky, Bruce Babbit, Michael Espy investigations: 0
(Assistant Attorney-General Webster Hubbell was convicted of embezzlement, a crime he committed before joining Clinton Administration).

Steve wrote on March 16, 2008 06:24 PM: I think it's a wonderful reflection of the state of America when all the follow up posters attack each other, the character of the author and our President... but don't address the issue of the editorial. Well done intelligent discourse.

Did Spitzer resign - Yes (Bravo)
Did Craig resign - No (Booo)
Did Clinton lie under oath - Yes (Bummer)
Did he resign - No (Debatable)

Is the play book different between Republicans and Democrats -- doubtful, but debatable.

Would the press have treated Spitzer any different if he were a Republican... Hopefully not.

These are some questions that I like to consider when looking through a political lens.

As to the snide comments about Republican's only having sex with the same sex and children... that is totally beneath even the most contemptuous Democrat, and the same goes for Republicans that impune Clinton for having Sex with an intern. It was about perjury, not SEX... and he was acquitted, let's move on.

The "typical conservative" and "typical liberal" crap on here is unnecessary.

William wrote on March 16, 2008 06:04 PM: SHERMAN FREDERICK is a liar.

He did not name even one Republican that took responsibility for their criminal or immoral misdeeds.

He named one Dem that did own up.
He named one Repug that did not.

That is not journalism.
That is propaganda.

John F wrote on March 16, 2008 12:24 PM: As the author of the first post, I'd like to point out that there's a reason Mr. Frederick did not bring up George W. Bush in his discussion of corrupt behavior. To do so would have not served his purpose of trying to convince us that an inapproproate response to corruption is a Democratic problem. Look at the list of names in my first post; they all responded to exposure, and in some cases idictment, by hanging on to their positions as long as they could.

Bill Clinton's conduct vis a vis Monica Lewinsky was not criminal as opposed to the conduct of either Larry Craig or Eliot Spitzer. Further, Clinton has never been convicted of a crime, so he's not guilty of perjury, is he? I know that's a pretty low standard, but it's what we've come to expect of politicians. I never said said Republicans were corrupt and Democrats weren't; I said they they both suffer from that disease.

Finally, to Greg, I never once mentioned President Bush in my first post. It's interesting that you think I did. Of course, when talking about contemporary political corruption, I'm glad we both agree that it's extremely difficult to have that conversation without bringing up his name.

Thomas wrote on March 16, 2008 12:00 PM: ....before a neo-nazi conservative can respond.....I left a 'd' out of 'wouldn't'...shame on me....i made a type..... ;-)

Thomas wrote on March 16, 2008 11:58 AM: Hey Sally Bing. Typical conservative. You all show your true colors of lies, deceit and corruption. You are a prime example. Please tell me what your stupid conservative President has accomplished. All I see is that he let al Qaeda attack us on 9/11, started a pointless war in Iraq costing hundreds of thousands of lives, ruined the economy, tripled fuel prices, racked up record budget deficits, did not capture bin Laden after seven years, did not rebuild New Orleans, and the WTC site still sits empty.

Let me guess, you voted for that moron TWICE? Ha....ha...ha... the jokes on YOU!

Yeah right. Stupid George "Dumbya" Bush is your leader. I wouln't brag about that.

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