Lord Vader wrote on March 28, 2008 12:25 PM: At this rate, what's next? Soon they'll really be teaching that blacks were the first Egyptians and could fly until the evil white man stole their powers and enslaved them. They might as well, everything else they teach is BS.

Believe it or not, desegregation of schools has much to do with it. Next came affirmitive action "teachers" who constantly tried to tell me what an evil cracker I was.

William wrote on March 27, 2008 11:38 AM: Do you expect this problem to be solved by the presidential village idiot who can't put a sentence together even when he's reading it?

"Is our children learning?"

billy chav wrote on March 23, 2008 11:23 PM: John Dewey was born in 1859, so he probably wasn't launching any youth camps--government-run or otherwise-- in 1852. But how could you know that, if you yourself were educated in one of those youth camps Dewey launched in 1852? Now I'm getting vertigo.

Paolo wrote on March 22, 2008 04:38 PM: Jeremy says:

"If all these people are so dumbed down because of bad schools, how are they going to teach their kids any better by homeschooling?"

That subject has been discussed many times on these pages. First of all, per Montessori, children are not so much "taught" as they "learn." A "teacher" can set up activities for a child, and occasionally explain something the child may not understand. But the child does the work of "learning" largely on his own. Parents in general, and especially parents of home schooled kids, quickly learn that children are made to learn; it takes a government-run bureaucracy to squeeze the love of learning out of them.

Next comment: "By the way, loyalty to the state can also be construed as patriotism, isn't that what cons complain isn't being taught?" [sic on the punctuation].

That is a particularly shallow view of patriotism, don't you think? More often than not, patriotism requires opposing state. German schools in the 1930's were particularly adept at teaching "loyalty to the state." Were the young Nazi party members who graduated "patriots"?

I congratulate Jeremy on a grain of truth, however: most "cons" DO want "patriotism" to be "taught." That is the worst aspect of today's "conservatives"--especially the Neocons.

Most people cannot think deeply enough to understand there is a difference between "love of country" and "love of state." Usually, one precludes the other.

Bill Smith wrote on March 22, 2008 10:08 AM: Only fascists support government schools Jeremy.

What is this "real education" you speak of?

Let's see your "evidence" also Jeremy since you dismiss what Vin has written.

Jeremy wrote on March 21, 2008 07:57 PM: Wow, what paranoid fascist imagery you employ, but it's a cover for the shoddiness of your argument. If all these people are so dumbed down because of bad schools, how are they going to teach their kids any better by homeschooling? Let's try to fix what we have, so can your juvenile cliches and do something to fix the problem. By the way, loyalty to the state can also be construed as patriotism, isn't that what cons complain isn't being taught? You use anecdotes and some stats then proclaim some great truth but your reasoning is shoddy and illogical, maybe you need to get some real education too?

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Jerry Taylor, WV wrote on March 21, 2008 10:15 AM: I graduated high school (HS) in 1965. The "town" kids were expected to excell in life, and us "country" kids were not expected to do as well. We were expected to become the ditch diggers, but only by the younger teachers. Those teachers, nearing the ends of their careers, were truely dedicated to each and every student. Looking back, we were in the transitional generation(s). Ironically, a higher % of country kids graduated college (me in 1970), than did the town kids. We were all fortunate to have had enough of the "right" teachers in our lives.

However, when my kids went to HS (1990s) the difference was most noticable regarding those who drove a Lexus or BMW vs those who, like my kids, rode the bus. The "bus" kids were treated like 2nd class citizens, and, their grades showed it - regardless of their intelligence and potential. It was a true and obvious Self Fulfilling Prophecy, placed upon them by their teachers, as well as by their fellow students - those with the cars, etc.

My oldest held her own and did OK. I had to pull the youngest and put her in a private HS. She did tremendously well in THAT environment.

Bill SMith wrote on March 21, 2008 04:39 AM: A nice start would be to allow only net taxpayers to vote. People who receive any kind of government assistance (including having children in public schools, socialistic security) or work for any level of government (police, teachers, military, fireman, elected officials, various bureaucrats, etc) would not be able to vote. If you get paid with tax dollars, it is impossible that you pay taxes. It only appears so on paper.

Paolo wrote on March 20, 2008 07:59 PM: Most parents now do not realize the power they have to cause real change in society. If more and more parents kept their kids away from the propaganda camps, those camps would get less and less money, while (simultaneously) more and more children would become independent-thinking adults.

If only more parents understood the power they have. For those of you who read this, I say: RESCUE YOUR CHILDREN TODAY! DON'T WAIT ANOTHER DAY. TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE SPIRIT-CRUSHING PROPAGANDA CAMPS! You can teach them better than any bottom-third certificated education "professional." Just take the first step, parents! You will be amazed at the power you have to change the direction of this country.

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