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LETTERS: Golf courses can't afford to waste water

To the editor:

After reading Jason Wagner's Friday letter to the editor, which criticized the Review-Journal's April 20 feature on the best 18 golf holes in Las Vegas for highlighting water waste by golf courses, I feel it is important to present the facts regarding water usage and Southern Nevada's golf courses.


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First and foremost, the golf industry adds almost $1 billion each year to the Nevada economy. Golf is an integral part of any resort destination throughout this country or abroad.

Golf courses use less than 8 percent of the valley's water, and that number is shrinking due to technological advances as well as superintendents' vigilant water management. Golf courses have removed 500 acres of turf, or the equivalent of five full-size courses, in the past few years, utilizing the Southern Nevada Water Authority's Water Smart programs. Golf courses are simply the most efficient water users in any water use category. We utilize the most advanced computerized control systems in combination with on-site weather stations to adjust our water usage 365 days a year. Water is golf courses' No. 1 cost of doing business, and therefore it is imperative that we manage our water efficiently.

Golf courses spend considerable staffing resources to manage this precious and expensive liquid. An average golf course will have two to four employees whose full-time job is to manage water. The rate increase recently passed by the Las Vegas Valley Water District, which will mean an increase to an average homeowner of a few dollars a month, can mean an additional $200,000 annually or more to a golf course's bottom line. With most other business costs skyrocketing as well, we cannot pass these increases onto our customers.

Golf courses are not green because they waste water. We fertilize correctly, we airify turf correctly, we chose the correct type of turf grass, we water correctly, and we have highly trained staff to identify and fix irrigation problem areas immediately. We apply wetting agents correctly. These are expensive chemicals that help the water to penetrate our poor desert soil, or help it hold on to moisture longer.

Golf course superintendents have worked closely with the Southern Nevada Water Authority to develop water budgets for golf courses to follow to reduce water usage during this period of drought, and have significantly reduced water use along with homeowners.

The golf course industry in Las Vegas is a critical part of our tourism machine, and we must not cause irreparable harm to a huge part of our already shaky economy without looking at the facts.

P.J. McGuire

LAS VEGAS

THE WRITER IS PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTHERN NEVADA GOLF COURSE SUPERINTENDENTS ASSOCIATION.

Teaching math

To the editor:

In response to recent stories about the Clark County School District's high school and middle school math test failure rates: I never realized what a wonderful public high school I taught at in Binghamton, N.Y., until I moved here. We averaged 90 percent passing rates on our state math exams, and our superintendent thought we could do better. It was a blue-color school district.

I am shocked that the superintendent out here is amazed by the math scores. Does he ever come out of his office and visit the schools in Clark County? I watched the news for 10 minutes and knew the answer to the problem. My superintendent would never allow a core subject to have more than 23 students in a class. On TV, I see classes of six rows and seven or more students to a row.

There is no way much education can go on in a class of that size. It will take the teacher at least five minutes to take attendance and get the class ready to begin. With a class of this size, you are going to have eight to 10 kids who will be disruptive.

Do you really believe that your son or daughter is going to get any individualized help in classes of these sizes? Do you really believe a teacher has time to correct more than 200 students' homework each night and get eight hours of sleep?

This school district gets what it pays for. When I hear Wynn Las Vegas dealers complain that they, with their high school degrees, make only $90,000 a year, and this state wants to pay teachers $38,000 to educate their children, I have to laugh and cry at the same time.

Noel Topper

LAS VEGAS

Water rates

To the editor:

For months we have seen Southern Nevada Water Authority General Manager Pat Mulroy on TV, congratulating us on how, through concerted conservation efforts, we used 1 billion fewer gallons of water last year than in previous years. Now, however, water rates are going to increase by as much as 30 percent? Am I the only person who sees the irony in this situation? What is the justification for raising rates? "We are selling less, so we have to increase the price to maintain our salaries"?

The water district should impose serious, meaningful fines on water wasters. If they do this, maybe the conservation efforts would increase without having to raise rates.

Randy L. Shereda

LAS VEGAS

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teacher wrote on April 30, 2008 06:40 AM: Mike L: That's the type of ignorant comment that keeps driving teachers out. For one, many teachers have to work summers to survive. For another, you cannot do your work within "contract hours." It takes plenty of outside planning and grading time outside of school hours to do the job, for most positions. Let's see you try it and see how long you last at the current pay level and working conditions. Boy, would I love to watch that. But it's fine, we'll just keep slapping subs into the classrooms when teachers quit so they can earn a living wage and not be chronically treated to ignorant attitudes such as Mike's: Who cares about the lazy whining teachers? Better than being homeless, so why do they complain?


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dwc wrote on April 29, 2008 01:51 PM: Sorry, Peej, but there's absolutely no way you're going to convince me that one tenth of an acre of your putting green is more water-wise than my one tenth of an acre of a mesquite tree and a couple desert shrubs and mostly rockscape.

So, if a serial killer kills less people each successive year that he hasn't been caught, does that make him a better person?


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Mark$ wrote on April 29, 2008 11:14 AM: Let's hear it for the golf course lobby! Las Vegas has the RIGHT to steal rural Nevada's water, because our wealthy residents and hi-roller tourists DEMAND luxurious country clubs! America has the RIGHT to steal Iraq's oil, because our citizens DEMAND luxury SUV's!


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mike wrote on April 29, 2008 09:19 AM: There was no ligitimate reason for the water rate increase, at least none they really wanted to discuss. And what really takes the cake,the only dissenters were Weekly and Chris G. All the Repub's voted for the increase.

I don't know how old you are Russ, but fifteen years ago(approx) we were all going to have to move because the lake was at its lowest level ever. Two years later they had to open the spillways because there was so much water. So for you to be sure the good runoff year will be temporary speaks to your myopia. From all the poster's I've seen, you are by far the biggest moron of the group.


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kookoo wrote on April 29, 2008 08:38 AM: Mike L.,

Think of it from this point of view, more money = better quality of teachers. The teachers in this valley aren't all that bad, but what do you honestly expect? Anyone who can make more money in a better area is going to do it, and they are.

Of course, there is still much to be done before we can even think about that.

To be honest, Las Vegas is just doomed. It is inevitable. You cannot civilize gambling, you just can't. Las Vegas is a prime example of this.


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Russ wrote on April 29, 2008 07:49 AM: NO, NLV resident, the water in Lake Powell will raise about 40 feet, but it will only be temporary. And one winter of good snow fall doesn't make a drop in the bucket in current drought situation. Lake Meade isn't expected to gain anything this year. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!


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Russ wrote on April 29, 2008 07:46 AM: Paul, I'm in total agreement. If it wasn't so comical reading some of these idiots' responses I wouldn't even bother. It does give a good laugh and if nothing else makes me feel pretty darn intelligent!!!


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NLV Resident wrote on April 29, 2008 07:45 AM: I think Pat Mulroy's comments on the water rate increase were to increase water conservation as we faced another "low" year. But, wasn't there an article in recent days that said the runoff from the Rockies and other western mountain ranges are expected to be very high this year, and that water levels at Lake Powell (I think) is expected to rise 50 percent? Granted, we still need to conserve, but to increase rates when the cost for basic food (milk, eggs and bread) has gone up dramatically recently is just adding insult to injury.


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paul wrote on April 29, 2008 07:21 AM: I'm always amazed at the stupidity of some of the comments made on these boards. Las Vegas is a tourist destination. It shocks you that water is used for golf courses and water features for tourists? The desert is not people friendly in general, yet you live here. If you are so worried about Las Vegas running out of water, why are you still here? YOU are part of the problem. Move already or shut up.


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Mike L. wrote on April 29, 2008 07:09 AM: Of course, a bad teacher like Noel Topper thinks the solution to your dumb children is to throw more of our money at the schools (especially for teacher salaries, who only work 9 months a year, anyway).

The answer is vouchers, or better yet, let parents have total responsibility and cost.


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