fredericklove wrote on June 05, 2008 07:17 AM: Mr Frederick

Can you please stop giving yourself pats on the back. It's really disgusting. Really.

teacher wrote on June 01, 2008 08:31 AM: What a great column. I don't usually read Mr. Frederick's columns through, because this well-off, Ivy League, privileged white man has little in common with me. (lower middle class, intelligent, educated, very hard-working teacher, former stay-at-home mom screwed
financially by divorce, had to leave the Ivy League for a state college - can't afford a vacation, or a car, or...) The level that privilege has reached in this country, and the divide between the haves and have-nots, is so sickening that I can't help thinking about what I learned of the guillotine and the French Revolution.

But Mr. Frederick got it. This is not about class; this is about race. I make less than 50K per year, but that doesn't make me ignorant. I'm looking at these people in terms of their understanding and analysis of the issues, and their character. To me, Obama wins overwhelmingly on all counts, particularly integrity, since Clinton is the bottom of the barrel there. It is beyond me that anyone could consider voting for her. (But, then, I couldn't believe the working class would vote for labor-hating Reagan, or either Bush, but many did. Oh, no, sorry, the Repubs don't hate labor. They love labor. Cheap, powerless, no-benefit labor.)

I hope you're reading these comments, Mr. F. You'll find racism galore here among the news-reading residents of Las Vegas. It's a shame you're so right.

By the way, most of us don't have money to buy extra houses. Me, I'm one of the "fools" who spent "more than they could afford" for a house, and bought on an ARM. But I'm not a fool. When I needed a house, there weren't any livable family homes left below 200K. I did the best I could. I knew the houses would drop, but couldn't wait. Life among the masses.

felicia king wrote on May 27, 2008 12:23 AM: The whole news media tried to blow up this white working class for Hillary.
They insulted so many white people who are poor but intelligent. Hillary is Harrassing a great portion of American society with her antics. She has lost all credibility. Blacks will never vote for her. Hillary followers are willing to eat their own children and grandchildren future. The hillary camp are pigs and they are sloppy and stupid

Lamb wrote on May 15, 2008 11:16 PM: No good points!! When I use hillary's scrip for calling voters you use her polices and senate record. you can get the script off her website.

Obama's calls involve smearing.

Nobody can say this is a lie and if they do, why? your just hurting yourself and your country. Why do people want to lie for someone they don't even know or will probably never have even a five minute conversation with?
After this election these people will be ghost and passing policies and real things that will make our lives better or not so great. that's what matters. people are treating this election like a beauty contest. why?

MICAH wrote on May 15, 2008 11:12 PM: DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I WROTE

I STOPPED WORKING FOR THE OBAMA CAMP BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD TO HAND OUT "FREE" TICKETS FOR HIS "TOWN MEETING" EVENT LESS THAN 50FT AWAY FROM AN EARLY-STOP AND VOTE. NOT ONLY IS THAT ILLEGAL IT'S LAME AND SHAMEFUL.
YEAH I'M A HILLARY SUPPORTER AFTER THAT CRAP. TYPICAL.

AS for facts I sat in on conf. calls from the senor staff of the obama camp. You are talking to me as if you know me. I'm just telling people here what i saw and did. you know whatever believe it or not whatever.
"it's an ironic that i based my facts on actions of his supporters." I was a supporter...your perceptions can't be too close to anything if you can read a simple paragraph and get any of those facts right.

all i can say is I made my decision and i'm cool with that decision. i made it on what i saw and heard...tangable things. not msnbc, cnn, fox or this internet blog world.
there is nothing in this for me to lie about obama or hillary i have to live in this country and i want the best option. so i'm going to chose who has better policies and i'm sorry but her's is slightly better. but i have to say working in close contact with the cape in N.C. tipped me over. my school UNCW was crazy for him. but i don't vote idiology or lame things as change. this might be "typical" but anything but bush is change

Micah wrote on May 14, 2008 02:34 PM: willis, you are still talking like a typical hillary supporter. That's the thing you cant shake off. you say you were canvasing the streets with hillary supporters....and you were working for obama? what the hell....

but as for my question, i clarified it...I don't know why you are pretending as if a genuine response would contribute nothing to my perception....but as I expected you knew little if anything about obama...and from what you know, it is interestingly only the 'facts' that the hillary camp chooses to misleadingly use.....am i to still think you worked for obama. please.

but the most ironic part of it all is the fact that you made your judgments based on the alleged actions of his supporters while you say something like this "I'm not saying Obama is racist. If anything he is trying to neutral." and then you say "he's lies are everywhere to see and people still stick up for the man."

so which is it? ..and you worked for obama again? lol


on a side note, edwards won 7% of the votes in WV....yeah...its the blacks that are racist.:rolleyes:

? wrote on May 14, 2008 08:56 AM: But, while he remained silent about the allegations of racism, he gave speeches across South Carolina that warned against being "hoodwinked" and "bamboozled" by the Clintons. His use of the phrase is resonant. It comes from a scene in Malcolm X, where Denzel Washington warns black people about the hidden evils of "the White Man" masquerading as a smiling politician: "Every election year, these politicians are sent up here to pacify us," he says. "You've been hoodwinked. Bamboozled."

By uttering this famous phrase, Obama told his black audience everything it needed to know. He was helping to convince blacks that the first two-term Democratic president in 50 years, a man referred to as the first black president, is in fact a secret racist. As soon as I heard that Obama had quoted from Malcolm X like this, I knew that Obama would win South Carolina by a massive margin.

by Cinque Henderson wrote on May 14, 2008 08:50 AM: Let's begin with the locus classicus of Obama love, Andrew Sullivan's encomium in The Atlantic. He writes:

Earlier this fall, I attended an Obama speech in Washington on tax policy that underwhelmed on delivery; his address was wooden, stilted, even tedious. It was only after I left the hotel that it occurred to me that I'd just been bored on tax policy by a national black leader.

This is presented as a confession, and Sullivan honestly admits his reaction is based on his stereotyping of blacks. Add to that another Obama supporter, Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, calling Obama the first black politician to "come to the American people not as a victim but rather as a leader." You hear this kind of talk all the time. Never mind the dignified glories of Booker T. Washington, Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King Jr., Colin Powell, Kurt Schmoke, and others. We have arrived at the crux of the matter. So much of the educated white people's love for Barack depends on educated white people's complete ignorance of and distance from the rest of us. Barack is the black person they want the rest of us to be--half-white and loving, or "racially transcendent," as the press loves to call him. And, since picking a candidate makes you allies with his other supporters, why would I want to be allies with educated whites whose glorification of Barack depends in large part on their implicit denigration of the rest of us?

micah wrote on May 14, 2008 08:35 AM: what was your questions. I mean really does it matter that answer it because your going to say i'm lying. Like that I didn't work for the Obama camp? ok..sure? I live in a state in which 1/3 of the dem pop is black. I canvased the streets of black neighborhoods with black friends of mine that supported Hillary and the responses we got are exactly what I've talked about below. My friends are in the age bracket of 45-60. We canvased neighborhoods for 5 hours on weekends and at least 2 during the week. But of course your going to call me a liar. www.myspace/oam6000/

Obama: not racist wrote on May 14, 2008 08:28 AM: From Dreams of My Father:
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father:
"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother?s race."

From Dreams of My Father:
"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father:
"It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

From Dreams of My Father:
"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope:
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

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