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ERIN NEFF: Conventional wisdom

Political conventions often work against a party's simple goal of electing delegates and firing up the troops.

Take the state Republicans. They have a platform that calls for the abolition of the Federal Reserve and the death of the Patriot Act, but they can't even figure out where or when or how to reconvene their failed state convention.


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  • Since the Republican convention blew up without the election of delegates, the inner squabbles between Ron Paul supporters and the party apparatus have bubbled to the surface in media reports of the event.

    Meanwhile, last weekend's convention of Nevada Democrats largely went off without a comparable hitch. The party elected its executive board, delegates and national committee members without too much trouble.

    It was the other stuff that left many delegates wondering why the heck they made the trip to Reno.

    Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are campaigning to end the war in Iraq, but the party's platform committee did not initially even consider that issue.

    The committee proposed a "support our troops and veterans through actions, not words" plank that made no mention of Iraq or Afghanistan. Instead, it congratulated itself for its shout-out to Harry Reid by mentioning the platform would be adopted on Armed Forces Day.

    One rural delegate could barely contain his rage in a call home. "I may as well re-register Republican. There's not even anything in there to end the war."

    He wasn't alone. But in the end, the party added five words to the "support the troops" plank: "End the war in Iraq."

    Platform fights are inevitable at any party gathering, as the public face of the group tries to moderate the more liberal or more conservative members of the so-called "big tent."

    But you really have to moderate on the Democratic side of the aisle to forget Iraq.

    Former Sen. Richard Bryan is one of the most beloved Democrats in the state. He's revered for his service as governor, for his anti-Yucca Mountain work in Congress and for his impressive knowledge of the state's political history.

    He's the kind of person grass-roots Democrats rush to hug at events, and his endorsement can help bring Republicans and independent voters over to a Democratic candidate.

    On Saturday at the convention, however, he was treated as if he were Karl Rove.

    Bryan had the job of serving as temporary chairman. His role was to fire up the crowd, pass the consent agenda and turn things over to permanent Chairman Chris Wicker.

    How dare he think Democrats were ready to consent to anything before noon Saturday?

    "This is our time," he urged Democrats in his welcome remarks. "This is our year."

    For the next 45 minutes, it became clear the Democrats' time and year would have to wait.

    The critical issue dividing delegates that morning was an item naming five Democrats to serve as electors to the Electoral College if the nominee wins the presidential election. These positions are typically reserved for party activists, large fundraisers or key operatives. They aren't typically offensive.

    And as best I can tell about the five original selections by state Chairman Sam Lieberman, each was someone deserving of the potential trip to Carson City to sign a piece of paper.

    But Washoe County delegates were in an uproar. They wanted that vote removed from the consent agenda. There was shouting, a division of the house, and Bryan's unfortunate determination that the "ayes" had passed the agenda.

    "I've never seen such a ramrod of a motion," yelled union activist Richard Daly of Sparks. "What kind of bullshit is that?"

    Bryan had simply tried to move things along. Former President Bill Clinton was waiting in the wings. Finally, after much debate and more votes, the party decided to shelve the disputed item for a later time. Bryan turned the dais over to Wicker and practically ran from the room.

    Clinton took the stage right after, probably wondering what Bryan, his longtime friend, had done wrong.

    "What a rowdy group," Clinton said. "Whatever y'all were arguing about when I got here, I don't understand it."

    Some delegates said they thought the Electoral College representatives were delegates to the national convention.

    The other convention furor involved the election of the party's executive board. Competing slates, one well-funded and pushed by the Culinary union (although not printed with the union seal) ran against some party stalwarts passing out nuts as the "Nevada Unity Team Slate."

    Delegates took some from each slate -- people, or at least names, they knew. Maybe they should call the new e-board "mixed nuts."

    And while the Culinary saw Obama do well and won a few internal elections, it also saw its choice lose the race for national committeewoman. It's no wonder state Sen. Maggie Carlton was named to the Electoral College a day later.

    It's a darn good thing they had to hold that item.

    Contact Erin Neff at eneff@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2906.

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    Roger wrote on May 22, 2008 06:13 PM: "This is how bad things have become people - elections are being manipulated and stolen!"

    ...and your own party, the DEMOCRATS are leading the way in stealing away the election...err...nomination from Hillary Rodham Clinton.




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    Roger wrote on May 22, 2008 06:10 PM: "One could use the same "Not a Republican" argument against McCain if you would actually take the time to look at his voting record."

    LOL, your rallying website asks the Paulites to *dress to fit in*. You want to accuse McCain of just wearing Republican clothing?


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    Johnathan L. Abbinett wrote on May 22, 2008 02:38 PM: "P" every vote should count AND every vote should be counted - and there should be no legitimate question about the accuracy of vote counts!

    This is how bad things have become people - elections are being manipulated and stolen!

    "P" makes a fundamental important point on a major issue - that's why the people must insist that all machines have a verifiable paper trail!


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    timinator wrote on May 22, 2008 02:19 PM: Republicrats = Kleptocrats


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    P wrote on May 22, 2008 02:05 PM: Like our votes actually count!

    I suggest every one do a little research into the electronic voting machines that more and more states are going to.

    In states that use both paper and machines, polls show BHO should win by 10%. Paper ballots, BHO wins by 10%, machines, HRC wins by 10%? How can the polls be right with paper, but backwards on the machines?

    Look at Ohio's secretary of state's statement that all FIVE TYPES of MACHINES ARE NOT RELIABLE AND EASILY MANIPULATED!

    So follow along like good little sheep and fall for the rhetoric that Rep are good - Dem's are bad from the Rep side or Dem's are good - Rep's are bad from the Dem side, while neither one of the parties are working for the good of the country, they are working for the good of themselves and to stay in power.


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    Johnathan L. Abbinett wrote on May 22, 2008 12:36 PM: BTW: Finally getting a statement on the Democratic Party platform supporting our troops, fully funding the V.A. and ending the war in Iraq was no easy accomplisment! Thanks to the stalwart and determined leadership of Lynn Goya, and military families (like John Hunt) and veteran's (too many to list) and advocates and activist, we beat the small, radical, too far left-wing looney tunes in debate (time and again) and finally came up with a statement that almost all Demcocrats believe in sincerely!

    Sadly, it's taken nearly 6 years to get this done - but, finally, we've repaired the damage done and turned the Democratic Party ship around!

    The progressive people of the party are crashing the gates - and the last of the good old boys and go along girls (who have squashed the party for their own petty, personal social status and power) are struggling to just hang onto what little dignity they have left - and that's a really good thing! I personally don't believe in running anyone out of the party, or throwing people under the bus, or eating our young - it's just wrong and stupid! But, it's way past time for the power to be returned to the people - and we intend on taking it back and not apologizing!

    The power belongs to all of us, and we share that power by authorizing our Central Committee members to represent us in party matters. The Central Commmittee, then elects an Executive Board and Chair and their power comes from the people - they need to be reminded of that regularly! The Chair is authorized to appoint Committee Chairs and that's where the lion's share of the work gets done!

    Our Democratic system does work - IF we the people work the system!


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    Johnathan L. Abbinett wrote on May 22, 2008 12:05 PM: The average "joe or jill sixpack" just don't get it - preserving our democracy and attempting to form a more perfect union is NOT just about registering and voting for candidates like it's American Idol!

    Citizens have to be far more engaged, at the very least, they have to know the candidates and their stands on the issues to be able to VOTE SMART!

    It takes a committment to time and work most are just too lazy to make - and that is why 95% of the Republican Party and 75% of the Democratic Party are corrupt and incompetence runs rampant in BOTH political parties!

    Every registered citizen, from BOTH parties, should be doing more - far more (and I'm not askig anyone to go and enlist, put on a uniform, put on a protective vest and helmet, pick up a weapon and go into harms way) - all of us should be doing what we can by talking to our families, friends and neighbors about politics!

    All of us should be talking to our neighbors - I know that requires a teeny, weeny bit of courage to go next door and ring a doorbell, and getting over the anxiety of actually introducing yourself - but that is what must happen to re-engage one another and build a community! It is key to us building a civic organization at every precinct level!

    Then, eventually, we'll get to the point where THE PEOPLE are providing direct input to the politicians we elect AND winning on our issues!

    The few people that are trying to fully participate in the political process DO have lives - we just care about more than ourselves and our families - we care about all of us and Nevada and America!

    Good article Erin - thanks, again!


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    Jasonh wrote on May 22, 2008 09:43 AM: "The disruption of the convention was a well rehearsed bit of entertainment by his frustrated supporters."

    There was no disruption. Conventions aren't coronation ceremonies, nor are they scripted events. They are venues for rank and file Republicans to participate directly in the governance of their party. The vote to amend the rules to allow nominations from the floor past by a large majority. This included several hundred Republicans who were not Ron Paul supporters. The caucus process did not end on Jan 19th. The convention ended when it became clear to the State GOP Leaders that Ron Paul supporters would win most of the delegate positions.

    Is it any wonder that the State GOP hasn't scheduled another convention yet? And nearly a month after the State GOP leaders illegally recessed the convention without a disucssion or a vote? I am now hearing reports that the State GOP rejected an offer from a donor.

    "Good thing other people see this. It's pretty clean the party did not expect it. The Paulites are not Republicans, just Libertarians trying to stage themselves in the GOP."

    It is true that Ron Paul supporters tend to be libertarian-minded, but I would argue that this is a traditional characteristic of Republicans stretching all the way back to Goldwater. One could use the same "Not a Republican" argument against McCain if you would actually take the time to look at his voting record.

    To end this little note I'd like to quote Ronald Reagan in the July 1975 issue of Reason Magazine

    "If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.... The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."


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    howard wrote on May 22, 2008 09:35 AM: Who cares about state political conventions? The candidates don't even show up at them. Only idiot journalists and people who have no life attend them. Next November have an exit poll question asking voters what plank of the party platform they liked best. The answers would be pure comedy.


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    Roger wrote on May 22, 2008 07:28 AM: "The disruption of the convention was a well rehearsed bit of entertainment by his frustrated supporters."

    Good thing other people see this. It's pretty clean the party did not expect it. The Paulites are not Republicans, just Libertarians trying to stage themselves in the GOP.


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