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Jul. 20, 2008
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FROM OUR READERS: Lawmakers should find a real issue

Quit stoking fears about immigration

To the editor:

It is not surprising that the legislators with the two least productive records of the 2007 session would trot out the immigration bogeyman (Review-Journal, July 11). Assemblyman Bob Beers claims that immigration is the No. 1 concern of his constituents. If that were true Mr. Beers should have run against the ineffective incumbent in his congressional district who has done nothing to address immigration concerns. That would be Rep. Jon Porter.

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    • Mr. Beers and Assemblyman Ty Cobb instead choose to waste taxpayers money on legislation that is admittedly federal in scope and outside of the jurisdiction of the Legislature. If Mr. Beers and Mr. Cobb were testing to take the civics portion of the naturalization exam they would be given a failing grade. As legislators their grade is pretty near ground level now.

    Legislators such as Mr. Beers and Mr. Cobb wrap themselves in anti-immigrant rhetoric to avoid the hard questions that Nevada voters are really concerned about. Why are there such a high level of foreclosures and houses for sale in the districts represented by Mr. Cobb and Mr. Beers? Why are citizens facing massive cutbacks in services? Why are Republicans such as Mr. Beers and Mr. Cobb slavishly following the failed "no new taxes" mantra of Gov. Jim Gibbons? Instead why are they not proposing legislation that relieves the burden of the taxpayers by demanding that corporations pay their fair taxes?

    Mr. Beers and Mr. Cobb choose to divert attention from the real issues.

    Neither Mr. Cobb nor Mr. Beers offers a scintilla of evidence that undocumented people are voting or are receiving benefits that are prohibited to them. It is much easier for Mr. Beers and Mr. Cobb to use McCarthy/Rove tactics to try to distract voters from what really matters.

    Are the voters in those districts going to be bamboozled by the divisive rhetoric or are they going to throw the bums out?

    Vicenta Montoya

    LAS VEGAS

    THE WRITER IS CHAIR OF SÍ SE PUEDE DEMOCRATIC CLUB OF SOUTHERN NEVADA.

    To the editor:

    Bravo to the Two Nevada assemblymen (Bob Beers and Ty Cobb) for taking the initiative to file bills targeting illegal immigrants. The states have been forced to take some action since the federal government (primarily at the direction of our do-nothing Congress and administration) refuses to enforce current immigration laws.

    Unfortunately these are mostly symbolic gestures, as it appears that our country's leaders sanction lawbreakers. We all know why the federal government won't do anything; it's called pressure from the businesses/employers that greatly benefit from the "cheap" undocumented labor as even President Bush has said on occasion.

    It really boils down to this: Who are the real lawbreakers, the illegal immigrants or the businesses and groups that hire and protect them?

    Federal law is very clear on aiding and abetting person(s) who are illegally in this country. Yet it appears that from top down we have politicians, businesses, employers, states (drivers licenses), banks (credit cards), churches, unions, etc. that gain from the illegal immigrants working here and are thus willing to break federal laws.

    These individuals and groups should be prosecuted in accordance with the current laws pure and simple. Where does it end? If the immigration laws can be ignored, what is next? I wonder what the reaction from the politicians would be if 20 million taxpayers "decided to break the law" and quit paying all forms of taxes?

    If we truly need these unskilled workers to fill these so-called jobs that Americans won't do then set up the much discussed guest worker program. The employers should pay the full costs of taxes, social welfare requirements and guarantees to provide even some type of health care coverage. However, I am sure those businesses and employers will squeal at this proposal since they won't be able to pay under the table and make their fortunes with undocumented workers.

    No amnesty. It did not work when Ronald Reagan did it, so let's don't make that mistake again.

    Congress, are you listening??

    Stephen G. Kilp

    MESQUITE



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    jp wrote on July 23, 2008 03:06 PM: Immigrants welcome, illegals go home!

    Yes we can send the illegals home!
    Yes we can secure our borders!
    Yes we can ensure the integrity of our elections!


    snackler wrote on July 20, 2008 08:58 PM: There is a simple cheap solution to the illegal invasion. Any employer caught employing illegals will be shot on the spot. Before you get through the first box of bullets no employer in the country would employ an illegal. No jobs means the illegals will go home on their own.


    Sad Summerlin wrote on July 20, 2008 06:47 PM: Vicenta Montoya - Go Away!

    Si Se Puede - Yes... you can... GO AWAY!

    Take your ILLEGALS with you regardless of national origin. Please leave the LEGAL Immigrants behind.

    AMERICANS LOVE IMMIGRANTS.

    AMERICANS HATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

    Get the difference?


    abc wrote on July 20, 2008 05:17 PM: If illegal immigration is "the #1 concern of the voters" perhaps it is because illegals are taking public (taxpayer) benefits, not contributing much in taxes, and causing lots of crime. By comparison, housing foreclosures only affect people foolish enough to take or give loans for housing that was too large or expensive for them in the first place. Supposed 'budget cutbacks' are not even noticed by anyone who works and saves. Why should people (corporations) who offer to sell products and services to others be forced to give part of their earnings to the government? Instead, perhaps the government should charge for the products and services they offer to the people.
    Illegals kill more US citizens than the Iraq war does:
    http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/february/0222_illegals_report.shtml


    press2forEnglish wrote on July 20, 2008 02:58 PM: Support ICE , keep the raids going , separate those families , send the freeloaders back to where they came from , Make hispanics feel unwelcome, they all are big time going for the reconquista, Most hispanics want this to be mexico, so far only one group "you don't speak for me " is speaking out,
    The rest of them want the raza here.

    Racist? No , but I sure hate these invaders from the south ,

    Filthy vermin


    tim wrote on July 20, 2008 02:50 PM: ouch,that last one must hurt, eh davey?can't have two sets of laws,one for them,one for us.what kind of example is our gov.setting?what if we all started following only the laws we liked?it's called chaos.this keeps up it could come to that.


    Joe C wrote on July 20, 2008 01:42 PM: To DavidThePatriot,

    Obviously you are completely ignorant of what or how the Nazis were able to oppress and commit such atrocities.
    I would recommend a book called, THE NAZI DOCTORS, Medical Killings and the Psychology of Genocide, by Robert Jay Lifton.

    If you can compare people living in one of the most diversified countries in the world to the Nazis; for only wanting laws obeyed and not allow greedy business to control immigration policy illegally or legally.
    Then you are truly delusional or extremely bigoted for your own agendas, dismissing the adverse affect to legal immigrants and citizens, very intolerant.


    Joe C wrote on July 20, 2008 01:23 PM: The bamboozling is those supporting illegal aliens like Vicenta Montaya.
    Proof illegal aliens are possibly voting. Just look at Little Village in Chicago.
    There’s where illegal alien Elias Munoz 63 pleaded guilty of supplying thousands of fake ID’s.
    The FBI watching the fake ID ring for months and had to move in when the people Munoz worked for were planning a hit on a rival fake ID ring.

    Lets not forget that Mr. Munoz is the father of an up-standing Chicago Alderman. Gee I wonder if there were illegals voting using fake ID’s?
    In almost every city there are street markets for fake ID’s the majority run by Hispanic.
    The McDonalds owner who supplied ID’s for his employee’s in Vegas how easy would it be for them to vote?

    Katie Couric did a story on just one hospital in Dallas where forty percent of the birth where from illegal aliens.
    Another fact-finding Mr. Montoya can do is right on YouTube, just search, “Testimony of illegal alien care from 1 Florida hospital.”
    Carol Plato director of corporate business services for one memorial Medical center goes into great detail how illegals are costing billions to taxpayers.
    We are being conned.


    DavidThePatriot wrote on July 20, 2008 12:56 PM: Beers and Cobb are doing this because they will get a lot of support from the ignorant bigoted conservatives like br, B Bob, and tim. People like this are going to destroy our country just like the Nazis did in Germany.


    br wrote on July 20, 2008 12:36 PM: Let me be one of the many to answer your question, Vicenta Montoya,

    "Are the voters in those districts going to be bamboozled by the divisive rhetoric or are they going to throw the bums out?"

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    We are going to to support Beers, Cobb and any other AMERICANS in throwing out you AND ILLEGAL ALIENS.

    We don't need any more stinkin' proof that they are draining OUR resources and illegally voting in our elections. Politicians of both parties are pandering to them. The elite celebrities are role playing their parts as advocates for Illegal immigrants, including the major criminals.

    Get outta town Montoya, before you get run out.

    Keep doing the job other American politicians won't do Mr Beers and Mr Coob. We've got your back.




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