Travis wrote on August 09, 2008 10:58 PM: "usually when a debater has no facts"

I used facts, read back about the percent of federal budget. You won't debate that though because it's easier to ignore something when you are wrong than to admit it.

"what happened to the issue of the "progressive" regime continually forcing u.s. consumers to send money offshore for energy"

What about the oil industry withholding supply? This is why the dems tried requiring them to drill on their existing leases. The less they drill, the more we have to buy from overseas. They are the culprit, but Fox will never tell you the truth. They are supported by them as well, as the Republican party has been for years. Get your head out of your rear end.

"what's cool is that there are citizens with such a low caliber intellect that they actually believe that pumping up the tires and teaching the kids to shiver is going to create u.s. energy independence."

Pumping up tires will decrease demand, not create energy independence as your strawman argument concludes. You do know about supply and demand, right. If not, I can educate you.

Creating energy independence will require an increase in supply and decrease in demand. Unfortunately, your simple mind can't handle more than one thought at a time.

There hasn't been a single fact in any of your posts today, just opinion and right-wing talking points. As I stated earlier, I pity you. You have been given a brain, but a spinal chord would suffice. Use the mass between your ears for something other than remembering the talking points Hannity gives you. Do some critical thinking, for once, so that you don't have to rely on others for your thoughts.

douglas wrote on August 09, 2008 10:44 PM: "illogical" ? the response is simply to those childish accusations. usually when a debater has no facts, or even some party slogan that he believes, the dolt resorts to personal attacks. it's kinda like a child caught in a lie. when exposed the child spins the yarn.

what happened to the issue of the "progressive" regime continually forcing u.s. consumers to send money offshore for energy ? what's cool is that there are citizens with such a low caliber intellect that they actually believe that pumping up the tires and teaching the kids to shiver is going to create u.s. energy independence.

one might notice that lately the leftist/"progressive" apparat is now spinning toward "some" drilling for u.s. oil. that's a start. when they come down from their drug highs and begin an aggressive program to use nuclear, coal, oil shale, solar, and wind, the u.s. will being importing less energy. could be that someday the u.s. will again export energy. but that's impossible under the "progressive" regime.

meanwhile, the "change" to the promised "$10-$12 a gallon" pump gas, plus the "progressive" proposed, federal energy tax surcharge should pretty much bankrupt the u.s. and the [legal] citizens.

thanks, harry osama reid.

Travis wrote on August 09, 2008 09:58 PM: douglas, your post was one of the most illogical collections of random thoughts and memories I have ever read. Maybe the men in white coats need to pay you another visit. Wait, shouldn't you be on the strip shouting strange things at the tourists? Whatever the case, look up "Psychiatrist" in the phone book and call one of them. They might be the only ones who can help you.

douglas wrote on August 09, 2008 09:52 PM: since i also comment on message boards frequented by the "sovereign citizen" lads, they understand "gubmit". leastwise that's the way they often talk what with their remaining teeth when i see them in person.

as to snow, the most i've had in the driveway was a few years back... 13 feet. after the 6th avalanche that afternoon, lv metro called for a mandatory evacuation. that midnight walk-out with a flashlight, down to the search and rescue point was invigorating. clark county residents may recall that a young man was swept off a chair lift at the lee canyon ski facility. despite hundreds of volunteers and rescue staff, he wasn't found and dug out in time.

as to listening to any radio or watching tv, via an internet connection, that seems to suck up too much bandwidth. not worth the continual "buffering". news is much better on many of the world's newspaper sites. one site links to about 3000 newspaper websites. were the usual leftist stooges to peruse the couple of [in english], mainland chinese or al jazeera sites, they might notice a similarity to the u.s. "mainstream" "news" media. a good example was the reporting of unbiased, on site reporters during the paris riots by the north african "immigrants". the number of cars and property destroyed were greatly understated in u.s. "mainstream" media.

as to the u.p. guess i've been there a few times. better "pasties" though are made in a milwaukee pasty shop. those they sell to tourists in the upper peninsula are like hockey pucks. and since icelandic airlines was for years, the only non-"iata" [read, fixed priced, everybody's the same], trans-atlantic airline, guess i've been there as well. only about a dozen times though, enroute to their european hub, luxembourg city. iceland unlike the u.s., uses their available energy sources.

Travis wrote on August 09, 2008 09:37 PM: I have a prediction. The "non-socialist" common sense will be back tomorrow stating that he's debunked all of the claims of those who don't agree with him. Actions always speak louder than words.

Sean Hannity's Number One Fan! "Psychotic'Gubmint douglas" wrote on August 09, 2008 09:10 PM: "douglas" is Fair and Balanced, and has taken over the Unibomber shack.

Okay, "Gubmit douglas" is Psychotic; or nearly so wrote on August 09, 2008 08:59 PM: I write this in complete sincerity:

I am troubled by "douglas'" rambling responses and his continued use of the term "gubmit" to refer to the government, in a private logic that only makes sense to him.

"douglas" rambles and talks about heavy snowfall where he claims to live.

For all we know, "douglas" lives in Northern Michigan, or Iceland.

But "douglas" is lying and knows the AM radio and the Fair and Balanced Fox "News" Channel personailities are available via cable, all over the globe. So is short wave radio, in case "gubmit douglas" resides in Antarctica.

Travis wrote on August 09, 2008 08:42 PM: The Obama is a muslim claim has to be the funniest one ever. It was hilarious to see how some still believed it while they were railing against him for his Christian priest (Wright). Stupid little lemmings...

Travis wrote on August 09, 2008 08:36 PM: douglas, I hate to call names, but you are a lemming. Do you think for one second that those who received those government contracts are not politically connected? Do you truly believe that it's not just favors being handed back and forth? Ever wonder why big corporations get bailed out while smaller ones are allowed to fail? Ever question the fascism you so faithfully follow?

Your first point about percentage of spending is another non-fact based claim. Being that you didn't provide any numbers, what proof do you have. I'll give you a few to think of. In 2006, we spent $515 billion on our military. That was more than the sum of the next 16 countries who spent the most on their military. Next, when you include veterans benefits and the war in Iraq, it is projected that 51% of the federal budget will be military.

Your last comment is just plain ignorant. Nobody mentioned anything about illegals, I was talking about contractors in Iraq building sub-par facilities for our troops. Additionally, there is nothing accidental about sub-par contracting. It is willful and greedy. You do support our troops, don't you. If so, then you should be equally outraged. You'll find some excuse though, like blaming it on illegals.

I have one suggestion; watch at least two news channels (not just Fixed, er ah Fox News). Don't get your information from one source. That is how lemmings like yourself continue to be misled. I feel pity for you. I bet they could convince you that Obama is a muslim. Oh wait, they already did that.

douglas wrote on August 09, 2008 08:06 PM: instead of just spin, the poster might google to see where the vast majority of tax collections go. it's not for military, it's by far, to gubmit "entitlement" programs. get back to us when you get up to speed with the percentages.

as to any gubmit sub contractor or supplier, if a citizen thinks that there's too much money in any deal, all they have to do is submit some bids. like if you are qualified to make toilet seats, get your bid in. if you can build jet aircraft, get your bid in. if you can supply tanks and ammo, get your bid in. otherwise, let those who have the infrastructure, talent, and equipment fulfill the contracts you apparently can't.

as to "campaign contributions" that record was set by the clintons siphoning money from mainland china. mysteriously soon thereafter, our missile technology was "released" to the chinese. likely those "campaign contributions" were a whole lot cheaper than doing the years of research on their own. and check the contributions from certain middle eastern countries to the "jimmy carter" library. one might notice that subsequent trips to carter obviously favor the palestinian terrorist organizations. how cheap some of these politicians work, of course to the detriment of u.s. security.

apparently you listen to those radio commentators. it's said that they have a large listener audience. no doubt they appreciate your listenership. without some sophisticated roof top antennae, i wouldn't be able to receive am radio reception in this village. and it's not wise to penetrate a roof membrane with such hardware, particularly in an area than may enjoy a dozen or more feet of snow accumulation.

let the readers know what you learn from your radio sources.

as to accidental deaths, guess i'd start by removing the millions of uninsured, unlicensed illegal infiltrators.

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