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LETTERS: Another baseless attack on public workers

To the editor:

As a proud Las Vegas Fire & Rescue captain, serving the citizens of Las Vegas for 28 years, I feel compelled to respond to your Aug. 19 editorial, "Public employee pay" and the city survey comparing compensation.

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  • It appears Las Vegas city management wants to justify the $360,000 cost of a salary survey to the Review-Journal and the public. Your editorial board has taken the bait in your quest to make public employees look bad in your newspaper, which you attempt to do every chance that you get.

    Why did the city of Las Vegas management not use existing city employees to do the research and study? Did the Review-Journal ask? That money could have funded seven new firefighter positions for a year.

    I would also like to clarify some false information in your editorial. City of Las Vegas firefighters do not routinely receive an annual step increase unless they are a new employee or newly promoted to a position. The majority of the department receives a negotiated raise each year. My pay raise, as of July 1, 2008, was 3 percent. I would gladly switch the pay raises that I have received the past 10 years with the pay raises and bonuses given to current City Manager Doug Selby and Deputy City Manager Betsy Fretwell.

    The cost of the Public Employees Retirement System pension is shared equally between the employer and employee. If the city pays more, then it negotiated with the bargaining unit for that to occur.

    So, while the city of Las Vegas management has decided to use the Las Vegas Review-Journal to their advantage, other entities in the valley choose to conduct their business without the approval of your editorial board.

    You have chosen to use only certain statistics out of the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce study, conveniently excluding the information that shows Nevada ranks 45th in the nation for local government employees per 1,000 residents. We're doing more with less. At the same time, public employees, city firefighters and their families continue to spend their wages at Chamber of Commerce businesses, including paying 75 cents for a copy of the Review-Journal when a short time ago it only cost 50 cents.

    So while you attack us as public employees, firefighters in the city of Las Vegas and elsewhere will continue to do what we do every day, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. We will serve the citizens to the best of our ability.

    We are having a new fire academy in October, so if you want to be exposed to guns, knives, human waste, body fluids, blood-borne pathogens, tuberculosis, hepatitis, cancer-causing toxic chemicals and smoke, death, severe trauma injuries, stress, life-changing experiences and make life-and-death decisions, you should apply to take the test and hope to get hired.

    Members of your editorial board can experience all this and more for $17.15 an hour after you graduate from the fire training academy.

    The Review-Journal editorial board and the community should be thankful young women and men still have the calling to become a firefighter, the best job in the world.

    Dean Fletcher

    LAS VEGAS

    THE WRITER IS PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 1285.

    No free rides

    To the editor:

    In response to your Wednesday article, "Welfare officials tighten assistance eligibility," about the change that will now deny Temporary Assistance for Needy Families payments for three months if recipients don't follow their personal plans by looking for work or going to school as agreed to:

    What is the problem? None of the people in the article who complained about the change addressed the central issue: No responsible parent would allow this to happen to his family. A responsible parent would follow the plan as required.

    If a person is severely disabled or mentally handicapped, I believe that is accounted for in their plan. To fail to live up to the plan and deny your family help is reprehensible -- on the part of the recipient.

    Welfare was never meant to be a handout, but a hand up, a chance to get back on your feet. It is not, nor should it be, a free ride.

    Sue Grue

    LAS VEGAS

    Who's really rich?

    To the editor:

    Somewhere in the midst of your scathing Thursday editorial ("Rich man, poor man") on the difference between Barack Obama's and John McCain's perception of wealth, you missed something very important: the news.

    Turns out Sen. Obama was right. If you reference the 2007 wealth report by The Wall Street Journal, you find that having $1 million in assets or $250,000 in annual income puts you in the top 1 percent or 2 percent of the country. Sen. McCain's estimate -- $5 million in income -- means you're talking about the top .01 percent of the country.

    Perhaps you're forgetting that taxes pay for things lsuch as good schools, new roads and care for the elderly. For those who aren't rich, like me, communal purchasing is the only way I'll ever experience such things for myself, my children or my elderly parents. Those who are rich, like, evidently, members of the Review-Journal editorial board, will have such things with or without taxes.

    William Wolfs

    LAS VEGAS



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    Fred Frazzetta wrote on August 30, 2008 07:49 AM: Review Journal:

    Instead of picking on the men & women that serve the public from the trenches, why not expose the true leeches such as: Nevada OSHA; NV Gaming Commission; the State Medical Board; Las Vegas City Council; Clark County Commissioners; Governor Gibbons; Senator Reid, AG's Office; DA David Roger; CC Fire Chief Steven Smith & Deputy Fire Chief Girard Page: Director of the CC Building Department, Ron Lynn, our Judges. These people & entities are not being held accountable for their actions or inactions depending on the situation. OSHA has failed miserably at protecting the worker in this state, and it looks intentional - they have sold the workers out for the higher good of the Casinos & big business. The most glaring of the OSHA cases is the Orleans Tragedy were two men died and another was in a coma for 3 weeks...ask Debi Koehler-Fergen or Kelly Snow how they really feel about OSHA! The Medical Board along with the Health Department showed their true colors in the way that Desai's Endoscopy Clinics nightmare was handled. DA David Roger seems to be very selective with the cases that he decides to prosecute...he seems to be a good friend to know. Look what Mr. Roger has done with Harrah's illegal remodels - remodels that left 1,000 of rooms unsafe for the public for many years...that's right he had tea & crumpets with Harrah's attorney (the attorney that works out of the same law firm as Rory Reid...how convenient). The DA's office provided not one investigator to help either the Fire Department or Building Department to investigate Harrah's wrongdoing.

    The plain truth is this: We have a city & state riddled with corruption starting at the highest levels...and unless the "Good Old Boy" network is broken up...it will not change...


    CAS127 wrote on August 26, 2008 05:00 PM: "City of Las Vegas firefighters do not routinely receive an annual step increase unless they are a new employee"

    Because starting salaries are manipulated downward by the public sector unions so they can continue to defraud the public by saying how "underpaid" public sector scammsters are.

    Only for the first few years - which the step scam quickly rectifies.

    This is an ancient public sector scam slowly being strangled by the dissemination of truth by the internet.


    Shannon wrote on August 25, 2008 07:22 PM: odog:

    Would it really be cheaper to hire more firefighters and police officers? For each person hired, the county has to pay unemployment tax, health insurance, and pension benefits. Add it all together and it is most likely cheaper to have less people working more overtime than more people working less.


    odog wrote on August 25, 2008 06:45 PM: I have been to several fire and police stations. I am not saying that they are not doing a great job. I am saying that they could hire more firemen and policemen, have 8 hour shifts and cut out the overtime. That would save a lot of tax dollars. Both policemen and firefighters would be rested and could perform their jobs better and safer with proper sleep. Win Win situation.


    br wrote on August 25, 2008 05:08 PM: Hey, Judy! Quit hiding in the ladies room. Come out and answer my questions.


    br wrote on August 25, 2008 05:05 PM: Firefighters job description:

    Hours and hours of mindless boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror.

    Also applies to policemen, soldiers, pilots and emergency room specialists.

    It does not apply to edurats(don't confuse with real teachers) or bureaucrats.


    br wrote on August 25, 2008 04:53 PM: Thank you Jon. I bow to your experience. May you continue with success you have earned.


    br wrote on August 25, 2008 04:50 PM: OK Judy,
    I'll start with your under-educated insulting rants. That marks your IQ level at room temperature.

    I have over 50 years practical experience in analysis and cost reduction of government operations. I have a documented record of thousands of manhours, millions of dollars and other resources over many years. It also makes me qualified to speak on the subject. Since you question my intelligence, professional capabilities, and political orientation, I'll do the same to you.

    Just what is your public employee job classification? What are your accomplishments in your public employment positions over how many years? What was your starting position and pay? Same question about your current position. What have you accomplished?

    I do know, in-house evaluations are usually skewed to favor an agenda. An example is justifying increased staffing or budgets. It is often used to CYA against poor management actions or lack of same.

    Business, industry and government operations MUST be conducted by an objective outside agency. Pubic sectors findings MUST be available without editing to insure transparency. Any other approach puts the fox in the hen house.

    Back to the personal level. I am political independent with conservative leanings. I have a BA plus 136 hours on my masters. I also have 50+ courses in technical and managerial subjects. I was an assistant professor at a major university. I have been a nationally recognize expert in my profession. I've taught and been taught. I'm a proud USAF Senior NCO retiree. I have lived and widely traveled in Europe, the Middle East and the Far East and Asia. I've owned my own business for several years. I have NEVER been on any kind of welfare.

    Still consider me an idiot? Go back to the dictionary. You will find one of the definitions is your name.







    dig it up wrote on August 25, 2008 04:42 PM: Helen Weils strikes again! Good job for the chuckles. Once again proves diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain. Oops, can I say that. Obviously she doesn't know any fire personnel or have stepped foot in a firehouse.


    Rick wrote on August 25, 2008 04:18 PM: Dear Steve,
    Here is your answer.
    Stories about buildings that do not burn down don't sell newspapers or get TV ratings.


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