CAS127 wrote on November 14, 2008 05:49 PM: "Why should state employees, any more than ironworkers, casino workers or employees in any other line of work, shoulder a higher burden in these tough times"

Because they get paid more for working less than the average private sector worker.

Next idiotic question from the public sector union flacks?

douglas wrote on November 13, 2008 11:53 PM: taxes/economy:

last week the chinese gubmit cut taxes by > 500$u.s. equivalent because they forecast that their 10%+ gdp growth will drop to "only" 8 1/2% for 2009. the "change" oaf elect, facing a u.s. gdp growth of barely over zero, has promised massive new taxes. those chinese dudes must be ignorant and the u.s. oaf elect, smart.

california prop 8:

if "marriages" in california are no longer legal between a man and a goat, or between a woman and a burro, which are being discriminated against ? the man or goat ? the woman or burro ?

patrick wrote on November 13, 2008 10:16 PM: redhawk9:

I hate to ruin your dream, but the only place where the president doesn't spend money is in a text book.

You might recall EVERY president since time eternal sending to Congress HIS budget for the upcoming year. You might also recall that the president is the HEAD of the party. What that means is that the president, particularly in those cases where the presidents party is in control of Congress, like the republicans during ronnie rayguns terms, and during bush's terms, HIS budget is typically, in almost every respect, adopted.

ronnie raygun (and no I have NO respect for this treasonous, lying, criminal) pushed through those tax cuts promising that supply side economics would CERTAINLY GROW the economy and thus RAISE revenues for the government. His advisers knew it was a farce, and when the proof came did ronnie, Mr. fiscal conservative, undue his tax cuts (like bush's cuts, the primarily went to the wealthy), NO. He understood the country was going deeper and deeper into debt, he knew that making budget cuts would only exasperate the deepening recession, but he just could not do what needed to be done; raise taxes.

redhawk, don't know about you, but the only people that would benefit by the ENTIRE system collapsing (because that is what would happen absent this HEROIC bailout) would be the extremely rich, since they are the only ones who would even have homes. Course with the inevitable unrest, and likely civil war that would result, perhaps even they MIGHT suffer.

Now go back and reread those high school textbooks and tell me about how the heroic United State's saved us from those bad old "redskins" out west.

Sleep well.

redhawk9 wrote on November 13, 2008 09:49 PM: Patrick-

I really hate to ruin your rant, but if you go back and review your old High School civic's text books (early-mid 70's, before they became indoctrination manuals) you MIGHT learn that the President DOESN'T spend money-the CONGRESS does. The President, when he sends his budget to Congress SETS HIS PRIORITIES on where he wants money spent. Congress has their priorities. They have a conference that TRIES to hammer out the differences and come up with a workable budget.

When President Reagan (have a little respect for him) pushed through his tax cuts in the early 80's, Congress said they would cut spending $1 for every $1 in tax cuts-they never lived up to their end of the bargain and the deficit went through the roof. Now for some current topics- the CURRENT Congress has "earmarked" somewhere close to $3 TRILLION to bail out industries/banks/etc... that "are too big to fail". In the REAL WORLD, businesses fail all the time and you will notice something-the sun still rises and sets, the neighbors dog still poops on your lawn and life continues...

patrick wrote on November 13, 2008 07:09 PM:
Ou:

I got a question for you; how much debt did Clinton ADD to the national debt?

Now here's another: HOW MUCH DID THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND bush ADD TO THE NATIONAL DEBT DURING THE LAST 8?

Lets see, if my calculations are right here, THE NATIONAL DEBT IS NOW MORE THAN 10 TRILLION AND WHEN BUSH GOT IN OFFICE EVERY PRESIDENT UP TO BUSH ACCOUNTED FOR 5 TRILLION, AND BUSH HIMSELF DOUBLED THAT.

Is that about "right"?

Oh, and one more thing, perhaps you can tell me HOW MUCH DEBT RONNIE RAYGUN ADDED TO THE FEDERAL DEBT?

LOL

Idiots.

NativeNevadian wrote on November 13, 2008 07:55 PM: Sad Summerlin:

I am in 100% agreement with you concerning gay marriage.
I have several friends who are gay, and they have all told me, they were born that way. I believe them. Some day I as sure science will support this.

Sad Summerlin wrote on November 13, 2008 07:23 PM: I know this is a bit off topic, but I picked a great day to be on the road yesterday and not able to comment on the Gay Marriage thread...

A few thoughts in Summary:

To those that find it unnatural for Gays to put things in different holes, may I remind you that heterosexual partners do the same... shall we deny them a marriage license?

To those that think Gay Marriage would not provide stability to society... would you rather gay people NOT have commitments and run amok? Perhaps marriage is something that helps stabilize society? Or is it just a heterosexual fraud that marriage is stability?

I will NEVER post again on this topic if someone can provide me just two good reasons without quoting the Bible how a GAY MARRIAGE detracts from a heterosexual marriage... please be convincing... and "it's just not natural" isn't one of them.

Anti-Gay Marriage is not a right-wing agenda item only. Many of my conservative friends and family voted against PROP 8... while the largest voting blocks for PROP 8 were Latinos and Blacks who voted for Obama... Equality for some is not equality for all...

Finally... I would very much like to meet the person who has CHOSEN to be gay. Not chosen to ACT on their feelings, but rather CHOSEN to have homosexual feelings... I cannot believe in 2008 there are still people ignorant enough to believe that people can be changes or choose to be gay... being curious and experimenting doesn't count... but to fully be homosexual in nature and need to have a homosexual partner rather than PRETEND to be in a heterosexual relationship... THAT IS NATURE in ACTION... not a CHOICE.

patrick wrote on November 13, 2008 07:09 PM: Ou:

I got a question for you; how much debt did Clinton ADD to the national debt?

Now here's another: HOW MUCH DID THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND bush ADD TO THE NATIONAL DEBT DURING THE LAST 8?

Lets see, if my calculations are right here, THE NATIONAL DEBT IS NOW MORE THAN 10 TRILLION AND WHEN BUSH GOT IN OFFICE EVERY PRESIDENT UP TO BUSH ACCOUNTED FOR 5 TRILLION, AND BUSH HIMSELF DOUBLED THAT.

Is that about "right"?

Oh, and one more thing, perhaps you can tell me HOW MUCH DEBT RONNIE RAYGUN ADDED TO THE FEDERAL DEBT?

LOL

Idiots.

Sad Summerlin wrote on November 13, 2008 05:35 PM: Correction to previous post --- my comments directed towards MATT WILSON were directed to TEACHER below in response to MATT WILSON'S comment...

I regret the misprint...

Sad Summerlin wrote on November 13, 2008 05:26 PM: Ou812 --- why do you continue to confuse the issue with facts? Don't you know that the only way to get your point across is to argue partisan talking points as loud as possible and get as many people to believe YOUR truth rather than documented fact? Please... try another tactic sometime... start ignoring FOX NEWS and TALK RADIO... they obviously don't know what they are saying because 98% of the rest of the media is speaking off the same page, and since Talk Radio and Fox won't conform, we must do everything possible to denounce them and destroy them... why are you bringing any logic to this at all... don't you realize humans are EMOTIONAL beings... we don't need FACTS... we only need to FEEL GOOD.

Matt Wilson --- Look around... you keep up your self-centered attitude, this will be a State that exists only to have State employees... with no industry or population, who's going to pay your salary --- FOOL!

Paul Spiers --- You scream at Ann Coulter, but yet you communicate with the same vindictive tripe only from the liberal perspective... can you kindly explain the difference between a liberal Ann Coulter and a conservative Ann? And just saying Liberal is correct and conservative wrong is not a valid answer.

Darrell Harmon - Time to get off the bandwagon... let's give Obama a chance... we need to be fair here... but when and if he makes mistakes THEN we need to go on the attack. Accusing him of problems that he might create now is equal to the masses calling him the ONE... HE AINT DONE NOTHING YET... let him have some record... and then cheer it or jeer it appropriately...

0u812 wrote on November 13, 2008 04:57 PM: Arnie did PRESIDENT BUSH put all that debt on us?? No Clinton had 5 trillion.

Arnie, was it not that when the Social Security was set up in 1935 that it could not be used for government?? Yes. But in 1965 the democratic congress passed a bill and a democratic president signed it into law to use S.S. money but must be paid back with a I.O.U. has that money been paid back from the democrats NO. In the last 50 Years who has controlled Congress, Yes that's right Democrats for 38 of the last 50 years. Now Democrats who ran this country into the ground. Yes that's right PRESIDENT BUSH did all this in 8 years all by himself no democrat at all asked or gotten money for anything. Dems wake up your party is dead after 2011 and harry and nancy will meet in Seattle.

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