Brendan Perez wrote on August 30, 2007 01:04 AM: Fair enough Steve.

I wasn't trying to argue about the cop's innocence or guilt, just disputing the idea that we're basically stuck with putting up with abuse or having no cops at all. ie., no potential for reform or reduction in authority or emphasis on the rights of the people they serve.

We don't have to put with victimization by some police in order to have "protection" from victimization by non-police.

Steve wrote on August 29, 2007 05:51 PM: Brendan Perez: How about this? Not convict the police of everything they do while they are in the process of serving and doing their duty? Where does it say this police officer was convicted of this crime? It doesn't. Why does Mr. Paul post it (especially starting his post with abuse abuse abuse)? Because he is a "hater" and believes everything printed is fact. Apparently, you are one who needs to join him on his police free island.

ken freeman wrote on August 29, 2007 05:16 PM: after reading the Las Vegas blm district managers reasoning for road closures i can see why the Las Vegas blm is in such disarray. it was stated that the" blm was just doing it's job on off-road closures". this is not the case, the blm has illegally closed a county road south of Henderson" the pipeline road" . on November 6, 1979 the Clark County commissioners filed a resolution to establish right of entry for all the RS-2477 roads in the county. the "pipe line road" is listed as 95-l in this resolution that was sent to the state blm office in Reno. this makes the road a county road and as such not under blm control so they can not legally close it. then the blm manager states that this closure has been in place sense 1998 . if this is the case why would the blm permit a competitive event on this same road for many years after 1998. the illegal closer runs miles past the dust boundary that the blm says it imposed with Clark County. then the blm goes on to state that you can go ride your ohv at the big dune but fails to tell you that the big dune is in nye county hours away. then the eldorodo valley is offered by the blm for ohv use, funny thing is most all of the valley is owned by boulder city not the blm . the blms last suggestion on ohv riding areas is nellis dunes in the north part of the valley and inside the dust boundary that the blm said is closed for heath risks, but it is OK to go off road there but not on a county road on the south end? as i stated before the blm has lost touch with the needs of Las Vegas

Beytovin wrote on August 29, 2007 02:09 PM: Interesting. The Off-Highway Vehicle Use link on the BLM website is brand new. It lists the Jean/Roach Lakes area as approved, but the last time I was out there, there were colored paper signs covering the normal signs saying the place was closed.

I just can't reconcile that the odd dirt biker or OHV driver is being a bigger dust-hole than all the quarrying and excavation/blasting going on on our public lands.

say what wrote on August 29, 2007 01:18 PM: karen,go live in England ...everyone has something to hide...

tabitha wrote on August 29, 2007 09:37 AM: It's because you hate dirtbike riders, isn't it?

Mike Moore wrote on August 29, 2007 09:04 AM: Perhaps Mr. Palma can answer the following: 1. In 1998, the public comment was overwhelmingly in favor of not closing the roads in question, we were assured that they would not be closed, and then they were closed, but not enforced for several years:why? Also, the road closure area imposed by the BLM is much larger than the non-attainment area outlined by the DAEQM.why? 3. DAEQM studies suggest that the closed areas even when used only contributed less than 1 % of the 'fugitive dust' to the PM10 count that is in question, why all this closure for that small an effect? Are there other agendas at work here?? I see this as a concerted effort by a small group of civil servants to force closures of large areas of public property, without public imput-shame on the BLM!!!

Jon Hamel wrote on August 29, 2007 07:16 AM: Juan Palma – Manager of the BLM’s Las Vegas Field Office has done an excellent job in presenting BLM’s position . . . in an attempt to set the record strait. Juan has also done service to the public in making the public aware of maps, issued by the BLM that indicate where one can travel on public lands.

That said, what I personally do not understand is how the BLM was able to evict the public from public lands. I do not believe that, legally, the BLM has the authority to prohibit the public from using graded roads on public lands that have been used for more than fifty years . . . by the public. Beyond the basic questions of public right of way, comes the question if the BLM does in fact have these powers.

I say, NO!

The BLM does not have or for that matter should never be enabled with the authority to prohibit the people from their land. It is the peoples land, not the Governments.

Brendan Perez wrote on August 29, 2007 06:25 AM: Steve,

What's the point of your post?

I don't see anything in Mr Paul's post about hating the police.

Why is it that whenever people complain about the criminal actions of police officers, someone always responds with something either lauding the benefits of the police, or the hazards of doing away with them?

Is that really the only two choices we have? Put up with criminal behavior among the police or have no police whatsoever?

How about this instead? DEMAND that the police act as law abiding professionals who respect the constitution and the rights of the people they SERVE.

We don't have to tolerate the police many times acting just as bad as the people they claim to be protecting use from; violating our rights, manufacturing reasons to arrest us and/or search us and our vehicles, just because they "protect" us.

Steve wrote on August 29, 2007 06:07 AM: Mr Paul: What does that have to do with ANYTHING on this page? Absolutely nothing! If you hate the police so much, then move to your own island where you won't have to have the protection of the police...then the rest of the criminal minds, like yours, can move there with you and all of you live there in peace and harmony without the interference of the police.

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