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FROM OUR READERS: More to it than just teacher accountability

To the editor:

I've been confused about the near constant cries that teacher accountability will save our struggling education system. From the federal Department of Education, to Review-Journal editorials, to letters to the editor, everyone seems to feel the answer is simply to hold the teachers responsible.


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Well, suppose I own a widget factory that makes high-quality widgets. I make them for people who send me their own raw material of varying quality from which to make their widget. I hire qualified assembly line workers to actually make the widgets, and hire managers to oversee production and tell each worker how they are to do their part in making these high-quality widgets.

Suddenly I find out a high percentage of the widgets are defective. Does it make sense for me to go to the workers overseeing their small, manager-directed, part in the production of widgets, blame them for the poor quality, and threaten them with harsh penalties if the widgets continue to be defective?

No, I would first go to the managers who are responsible for the overall widget production, and demand they meet the responsibility for quality widget production. If the managers tell me it is impossible to meet that responsibility because of the varying quality of raw material, labor unions, the federal widget quality bureau, litigious lawyers or whatever, I either find new managers, or admit my entire business plan is flawed.

I know this is a grossly simplified analogy, but nonetheless, it does not seem logical to hammer the teachers, who are only doing their own small part, as directed by school administrators, in the overall education of our youth.

James R. Brown

NORTH LAS VEGAS

In flight

To the editor:

I believe Howard Stutz and Brian McGill are on to something ("McCarran visitor count sinks nearly 10 percent in August," Sept. 29 Review-Journal). My experience is that the demand for seats must be exceeding the supply.

Because my business takes me to Washington, D.C., each week, I have completed nearly 100 round trips between McCarran and Washington Dulles since July 2007. To my best recollection, only one of the 200 flights originating or terminating at McCarran had available seating. That one flight was a Tuesday, nonstop Southwest Airlines flight.

All too often the gate attendants on inbound flights are barking offers to forfeit seats on the overbooked Las Vegas-bound flight.

JetBlue decided to discontinue nonstop service between McCarran and Washington Dulles in September 2008. I began questioning their reasoning upon learning of this decision. I could not understand why an airline would discontinue service when its flights had no available seats. I kept hearing excuses like, "Our management wants to reduce the number of cross-country flights," or, "Perhaps the FAA asked McCarran to reduce the number of takeoffs and landings for safety concerns," and finally, "We anticipated hotel occupancy to be down in Las Vegas. See, we were right!" Of course, they were right. When you don't lead the horses to water, they won't drink. When you cancel flights into and out of Vegas, people can't get there to stay in the hotels.

Maybe it is me. Maybe I fly in and out of Las Vegas on the only days and times that others want to fly in and out of Vegas. I don't think so -- particularly when I occasionally choose midweek. If I am picking the high-demand times, then why not offer flights on only those few days and times of the week that I fly? Obviously these are high-demand days and times.

The airlines don't have a problem offering weekly, bi-weekly, or tri-weekly flights to and from other vacation destinations. Why not Vegas?

I'm not sure just what is going on here. Are the airlines convinced that if they hold out, the casinos will subsidize additional flights? I am becoming quite suspicious. Maybe it is only because I am becoming grumpy in my small, overcrowded seat.

Royce Snyder

HENDERSON

Just a thought

To the editor:

OK, enough of all the political banter and rampant speculation already. It's boring. Let's get down to more serious issues.

This week, like most weeks, traipsing through the daily newspaper one finds interesting tidbits of information that nobody seems to give a second thought. In a small column, I see that Clark County Commissioners Susan Brager and Chris Giunchigliani were considering everything from enacting a heavy monetary penalty to a new felony law for animal cruelty because two cats were savaged, apparently by a bobcat near the Mountains Edge community.

So who let the cats out, and whatever happened to the County Commission's proposal to snare and spay 200,000 feral cats here? Maybe they are just hoping for an increase in the bobcat population or that the newly confirmed feline H1N1 will be enough to resolve this overpopulation problem?

Not far from this articulate newspaper gem was a picture of President Obama tiptoeing through a field of solar panels in Florida, talking "smart grid" and other environmentally friendly issues, I suppose. No doubt we could stand to jettison some of the carbon-emitting fuel sources we're now dependent upon, but at what cost?

Who has submitted these proposals for wind, solar, nuclear and smart grid technology conversions to the CBO for evaluation?

Then, hardly a daily newspaper goes by without a mention of the move toward legalization of marijuana. Supporters are aghast that college students are now drinking themselves to death. If only they could get some Mary Jane instead. If legalized, then what would your blood Mary Jane level need to be before you are considered legally drunk?

Marijuana is said to be a gateway drug, but a gateway to what?

Wow, just when we are on the road to lower car insurance premiums, better health care, reductions in cigarette smoking and lung cancer, now we need a substitute so the local tax collector, the auto insurance and health care industries can all prop up their financials?

What do the surgeon general and the CBO say about all of this?

Not much.

Richard Rychtarik

LAS VEGAS

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teacher wrote on November 08, 2009 08:07 AM: Q from reader:"Do the students have ANY responsibility in today's schools, or is it only the parents and teachers?"

A from teacher: Parents and teachers? No, parents have no responsibility. They are allowed to demand, verbally attack, and blame.

As for students, NO, they have NO responsibility.

Lack of responsibility is the #1 thing our schools are teaching them. I don't like being part of it, but I'm stuck in the job. But I do the best I can to try to instill some sense of responsibility. However, those of us who do are mostly drowned out by the parents and the system.

The attitude is that they are children, and children can do no wrong, so teachers should do everything for them-

Not only are they irresponsible, they also can't think. It's unbelievable. In my classes, you can literally stand there and feed them an answer, then immediately ask them the question that goes with it, and many of them won't be able to answer it. Seriously; I'm not exaggerating. You almost have to see it to believe it.

It's incredible. Many students just sit there looking utterly blank, waiting for the answer to be given to them, not even trying to think. Then others are actually trying, and can't even put together the question with the answer you gave them immediately before you asked it. It's truly unbelievable. I wonder if it's the food they eat or something. Their brains are not working right.

You can tell them something's going to be on a test word for word as it is in their notes, and many will still get it wrong.

Nevada is raising a whole generation of irresponsible, helpless, ignorant citizens through the public school system. That's because we're not allowed to expect anything of students.



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Local teacher wrote on November 07, 2009 10:46 PM: I have a student in one of my classes who has shown up twice since he enrolled on the first of October. I've talked to everyone from the attendance officer to the dean to his teacher of record (he's special ed). The kid has already received a denial of credit, and of course he won't pass the proficiency test since he'll most likely be absent.

I have another kid in a different class who can barely speak English. She really has no idea what we're doing in class, and can't even follow along well enough to write down answers if I give them to her. When I complained that she needed to be in an ELL class, I was told there wasn't another ELL class for her to be in, and that I was pretty much stuck with her. "Do the best you can" was the advice. She won't pass the proficiency test either, since she's not proficient enough in English to actually read the questions.

These are but two of many examples. Now, would someone please tell me how to make these kids better students in the span of one school year, especially when they won't come to school and/or can't understand half of the simple words that come out of my mouth during the course of a class that's not even an hour long?


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James Brown! wrote on November 07, 2009 06:02 PM: I thought you were dead! Do that scream for me.


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UNLV is a joke for "higher" learning wrote on November 07, 2009 11:43 AM: It's not the lowly slugs called "teachers" doing all the heavy lifting, but the shoe clerks called "Administrators" that must be held accountable for performance under their management. If the district isn't getting it right, the top administrator should be held accountable and force out as soon as possible, with no sweetheart deals either. The then so-called "Area Superintendents" who are nothing but prima donna superintendent wannabes should be force OUT. And on down the line. The performance is UNACCEPTBLE and can be easily fixed, but the attitude displayed by "administrators" is not to rock the boat! They truly are gutless when it comes to LEADERSHIP.


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Teachers need an apple wrote on November 07, 2009 11:14 AM: Teachers need to put an apple into the mouth of that UNLV Researcher whom thinks he knows everything.

His thesis in ALL his writings are it's the teachers fault, blame the teachers, test the teachers, it's the teachers stupid.

As they say "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

The guy needs to look in the mirror. It's YOU.


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HELEN WEILS wrote on November 07, 2009 11:05 AM: AS SOMEONE WHO ATTENDED BOTH CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND THEN PUBLIC SCHOOL I CAN TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE. DISCIPLINE AND POOR TEACHERS.
MY PUBLIC SCHOOL GEOMETRY TEACHER WAS A JOKE. IT WAS HER FIRST YEAR AND THE
15 BOYS IN THE CLASS THREW SPITBALLS ALL DAY LONG AT THE BLACKBOARD. SHE DID NOTHING. EVERYONE FLUNKED INCLUDING
ME. MY PUBLIC SCHOOL ALGEBRA TEACHER WAS IN HIS 60'S, NICE GUY, NO DISCIPLINE IN THE CLASSROOM. I BARELY
MADE IT THROUGH THAT CLASS.
HOWEVER, IN CATHOLIC SCHOOL I GOT A'S AND B'S.
TEACHER'S DO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. AND 80% OF MY PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS WERE WORTHLESS. I GRADUATED IN 1970 AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THINGS HAVE CHANGED AT ALL.
GIVE VOUCHERS, HOME SCHOOL OR SEND THEM TO PRIVATE SCHOOL, STOP THE MADNESS.
P.S. I AM SO VERY SICK OF LISTENING TO
THE BLEETING FROM THESE UNION TEACHERS
FOR MORE MONEY. BARF!


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you can't ficks stupid wrote on November 07, 2009 10:29 AM:

http://ronpaulblogs.com/george-bush/files/2009/01/bush-book-upside-down.jpg


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fire fighters need a pay raise wrote on November 07, 2009 10:27 AM:
rory, what is the hold up ?


http://transparentnevada.com/salaries/employee/29502/danny-ganier/


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mo schmo wrote on November 07, 2009 10:22 AM: It looks like whatever you hate most is the culprit here.

If you hate all unions- they're to blame.

If you hate teachers, they're all rotten.

If you hate illegals, it's all their fault.

If you hate beaurocracy, it's the administration's fault.

If you hate kids, they're all stupid.

If you hate Obama, everything's his fault.

If you hate Bush, everything's his fault.

If you hate Harry Reid, everything's his fault.

If you hate....

I think you're getting the idea.


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A good craftsman wrote on November 07, 2009 09:28 AM: A good craftsman or artist can turn any raw material into a piece of art and give it greater value than it had before. Good teachers can take poor students and make them better.

Bad teachers continue the perpetual cycle of underperforming schools.


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